If Aaron Rodgers is truly the GM/Decision maker - Who does he want at #10?

[thebuzzardman]

I think this topic would be a good place to discuss the pro and cons of Brock Bowers

[derp]

12 hours ago, Augustiniak said:

He injured his Achilles on a play where the OL made a real stupid non block, i think he wants better protection.

He injured his Achilles on a play where he was supposed to get the ball out fast because of the blocking scheme, but didn’t because he wasn’t confident the pass catcher was open. I think he wants more receiving options.

…I don’t really think he wants better receiving options because of that play, but I also don’t think the OL is what got Rodgers hurt so they need to add OL argument holds any weight.

[The Crusher]

10 hours ago, Larz said:

If you were a tree, what kind of tree would you be?

One you can cut down with four swings of an axe?

      -AR8

[The Troll]

Rodgers takes off his GM hat on draft day. I doubt it was his idea to draft a third string edge rusher.

[Augustiniak]

20 minutes ago, derp said:

He injured his Achilles on a play where he was supposed to get the ball out fast because of the blocking scheme, but didn’t because he wasn’t confident the pass catcher was open. I think he wants more receiving options.

…I don’t really think he wants better receiving options because of that play, but I also don’t think the OL is what got Rodgers hurt so they need to add OL argument holds any weight.

Stupid OL failed chop block led to the injury

[derp]

14 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

Stupid OL failed chop block led to the injury

The chop block was called. He needed to throw the ball and didn’t.

 

[Jetkwondo]

13 hours ago, bicketybam said:

Do you think they asked him last year and he said "Will McDonald!" 😅

Well at least one might say it would be par for the course, as not once was an offensive skill position player picked in the first round by the Packers, during Aaron Rodgers time in GB starting with his current buddy A J Hawk. Oh the irony!

https://www.outkick.com/nfl/new-york-jets-draft-defensive-player-in-first-round-of-nfl-draft-which-aaron-rodgers-should-be-used-to-by-now

[Larz]

15 minutes ago, derp said:

The chop block was called. He needed to throw the ball and didn’t.

 

It’s pure speculation but I think he may have been looking deep to make a statement throw so to speak. 
 

it’s pretty shocking to think that Hackett and Carter cooked up a scheme Rodgers hates after having all summer to script the Monday night opener 

[slats]

Rodgers had outsized influence last year in both the courting and honeymoon stages, but this year that appears to be completely over. At the end of the season, Rodgers said something to the effect of, “I’ve got some ideas on player additions if JD is interested,” in a way that suggested he knew JD wasn’t interested. 
 
Douglas is done pandering, imo. 

[ChuckkieB]

I think the only thing Rodgers really wants is a ayahuasca dispensary in the lobby of the Florham Park practice facility. He's hallucinating all the way to the bank. 

[FidelioJet]

My best guess...

In the first round Rodgers wants a second round prospect at the teams biggest position of strength...

 

[thebuzzardman]

23 minutes ago, slats said:

Rodgers had outsized influence last year in both the courting and honeymoon stages, but this year that appears to be completely over. At the end of the season, Rodgers said something to the effect of, “I’ve got some ideas on player additions if JD is interested,” in a way that suggested he knew JD wasn’t interested. 
 
Douglas is done pandering, imo. 

Rogers could still be shadow GM but went and floated trial balloons about being veep to a nutty populist

[DoubleDown]

If I had to guess his preferences,  it would be WR, Bowers, OL in that order.

[Tony The Wiz]

23 hours ago, Jdeet said:

Seems like everyone is of the notion that Rodgers is making all of the decisions, at least on offense. It is my opinion, that Rodgers wants a playmaker. He would just as well have the Jets sign Bakhtiari as OT insurance and the Jets take a later round OT, rather than draft a guy who might not even play in 2024. The fact that Brock Bowers has his invite to visit the Jets, be at the same time as Aaron Rodgers shows up, is not a coincidence. Maybe for the Jets brass to sell Rodgers on Bowers, the guy they want to draft? But does Rodgers really want a TE/slot guy or a true WR?

I would think, anyone other than a defensive player, would probably be good with him. Rodgers had famously been critical of the Packers for leaving him with just young WRs in 2022, but reversed his thinking last year, when he was very much in favor of keeping a couple of the young undrafted WRs picked up in Gipson and Brownlee.

I feel like the order that would likely be his choices would be:

Marvin Harrison Jr - (likely drafted by Cardinals or Chargers)

Malik Nabers - (likely drafted by Chargers or Giants)

Rome Odunze - (likely drafted by Bears or Jets)

Brock Bowers - (likely available for Jets)

Personally would rather have Odunze than Bowers, but who do y'all think Rodgers wants? Or do you think he actually wants an offensive tackle?

 

Odunze won't be there when the Jets pick unless they move in front of Chicago. I would rather have Odunze over Bowers even though Bowers will be an excellent TE. Just Odunze is a special player.  

[Rich Thornburgh]

Depends, is Nabers vaccinated?

[Rich Thornburgh]

On 4/18/2024 at 6:37 AM, derp said:

The chop block was called. He needed to throw the ball and didn’t.

 

Duane Brown the human turnstile

[Biggs]

Rodgers would take Ted Scott.  While it would be a surprising pick, I think he would work well with Rodgers.

[freestater]

On 4/17/2024 at 10:07 PM, Larz said:

If you were a tree, what kind of tree would you be?

Probably a redwood. 

'Cause they're really high. 

[Maxman]

On 4/17/2024 at 7:27 PM, bicketybam said:

Do you think they asked him last year and he said "Will McDonald!" 😅

Just laughed out loud, this is great.

You can have Cobb or pick the 1st round guy. 

Aaron: Give Randall his money.

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

If I’m AR I think I’d obviously want a LT to help keep my Achilles (and other body parts) intact  😊

[Gastineau Lives]

On 4/21/2024 at 11:01 PM, Rich Thornburgh said:

Depends, is Nabers vaccinated?

Is it mandatory in jail?

[T0mShane]

On 4/18/2024 at 9:05 AM, slats said:

Rodgers had outsized influence last year in both the courting and honeymoon stages, but this year that appears to be completely over. At the end of the season, Rodgers said something to the effect of, “I’ve got some ideas on player additions if JD is interested,” in a way that suggested he knew JD wasn’t interested. 
 
Douglas is done pandering, imo. 

The second best development of this offseason, imo, that they’ve frozen Rodgers out of the process. Hard to see, given the history, Douglas putting his foot down with Rodgers, so maybe this is Rodgers taking a step back from the org? I know he says he wants to play a few more years, but does he mean for the Jets? 

[T0mShane]

11 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said:

Is it mandatory in jail?

Yes. <cough>

[TuscanyTile2]

On 4/18/2024 at 8:37 AM, derp said:

The chop block was called. He needed to throw the ball and didn’t.

So the problem is Nate Hackett then?

Not even a HOF QB could've survived behind this OL with these weapinzz and CS? 

[Gastineau Lives]

3 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Yes. <cough>

How many knots were you over the limit?

[TuscanyTile2]

On 4/18/2024 at 8:37 AM, derp said:

The chop block was called. He needed to throw the ball and didn’t.

 

AR8's 2 other passes:

 

[jetsfan4life72]

I would 100% consult with my QB for the draft. Aaron Rodgers or not. Why do people act like this is Aaron running the team and a negative?

If Rodgers comes out and says he doesn’t like Bowers/rookie TEs then you try to get out of 10 whether it’s up or down. Get Odunze or grab the best OL available. 

[slats]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

The second best development of this offseason, imo, that they’ve frozen Rodgers out of the process. Hard to see, given the history, Douglas putting his foot down with Rodgers, so maybe this is Rodgers taking a step back from the org? I know he says he wants to play a few more years, but does he mean for the Jets? 

Rodgers is a lot of interesting things, but he’s not an idiot. I don’t think he’d need a lot of convincing to figure out that Lazard, Cook, Cobb, Turner, etc., sucked here last year. He’s back at voluntary camp, so I’m thinking his head’s in it. He has whatever he has to prove, and this is probably his last stop. 

[Bobby816]

I think Rodgers is good with the OL right now. Our starting unit is top 10 in the league let's not forget. Yes we have 2 guys on that OL that are injury prone in AVT and Smith. But I feel Rodgers would like to get guys that for sure will play rather than backups.

Let's also think of how JD views his 1st Round OLineman. Becton who busted and couldn't stay healthy and AVT who has had back to back season ending injuries. While he values OL... he might be hesitant to draft one that high with the way it's worked out for him recently.

And that would appear to be in the weapon department at either WR or TE.

Here's my list of who I want excluding guys who I think are gone in MHJ, Nabers and Alt. For what it's worth I like Odunze more than Nabers regardless.

 

1a. Odunze if you ask me slides right in as a starter. That's even assuming MW can go to start the season. I feel he easily can beat out Lazard for WR3 after what we saw from him. Now obviously Lazard has talent, knows the system and has trust with Rodgers... so it's not like Odunze will be given the job. Let's also not forget that Lazard was rumored to maybe get traded this offseason. But we did see how fast a highly talented young WR can get on the same page as AR with GW last year. They seemed to have a great connection all summer.

 

1b. Bowers I think he can beat out Conklin as a starter, heck you could even debate that we could kick the tires on trading Conklin if we drafted Bowers. But even let's say Conklin is still here and is the starter. Bowers can be used in so many ways, where he'd still get the ball. Likely used out in the slot quite a bit. H back and in 2 TE sets. Point being... Bowers would still get the ball even if Conklin was still here.

 

3. Thomas Jr. A guy that has flown up my board the more I've thought about it. Fits what we'd like at WR and offers that no one else in our WR does. Great size at 6'3" 210lbs. And is a 4.3 guy. A guy that takes the top off the defense and can win 50/50 balls. GW can really do everything, but isn't the biggest guy. MW is huge but doesn't have good speed. Thomas Jr is like a perfect combo of those 2. Given his skill set being so much different than Lazard. I think he for sure would have several shots to him downfield per game. So he'd make an impact.

 

4. Fatuanu has versatility. Played LT in college but is likely best at OG. So he's insurance for Smith and AVT. I do question that he for sure could beat out Warren as next man up at LT. But we do need a long term answer at OT in someway. Developing young guys like Warren and a guy like Fatuanu would be nice. He did struggle in run blocking which needs development. And playing strength.

 

5. Fuaga I think is the 2nd most talented OT in the draft. Issue with him for me is he's never played LT. So very well might not be next man up if Smith got injured. Moses stays healthy for the most part. So you'd be looking at a redshirt year likely for a 10th overall pick.

 

 

Another thing to note in this is that I like the OT class in Round 3. Rosengarten from Wash was a RT but that was Pennix's blind side. Would love him in the 3rd. As well as guys like Kiran Amegadjie, Blake Fisher and Matt Goncalves. Gonclaves is interesting bc we clearly studied Pitt a ton last offseason with drafting Warren and Izzy. Gonclaves was there starting RT who was good and when Warren got injured moved to LT. So we likely have done a lot of work on him.

[Bobby816]

24 minutes ago, jetsfan4life72 said:

I would 100% consult with my QB for the draft. Aaron Rodgers or not. Why do people act like this is Aaron running the team and a negative?

If Rodgers comes out and says he doesn’t like Bowers/rookie TEs then you try to get out of 10 whether it’s up or down. Get Odunze or grab the best OL available. 

Absolutely. Do people think all established QBs don't get to put there 2 cents in on drafts? Doesn't mean that's what the GM will do... but I'm sure they have conversations with the GM.

[derp]

1 hour ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

So the problem is Nate Hackett then?

Not even a HOF QB could've survived behind this OL with these weapinzz and CS? 

Aaron Rodgers won’t follow the plays of his guy at OC?

1 hour ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

AR8's 2 other passes:

 

That’s the same play twice, right? Another called chop block where he doesn’t get the ball out?

[TuscanyTile2]

3 minutes ago, derp said:

Aaron Rodgers won’t follow the plays of his guy at OC?

That’s the same play twice, right? Another called chop block where he doesn’t get the ball out?

My bad.  I think that's the same play from a different angle.  This was his other pass.  Nobody open.  

 

[Augustiniak]

15 minutes ago, slats said:

Rodgers is a lot of interesting things, but he’s not an idiot. I don’t think he’d need a lot of convincing to figure out that Lazard, Cook, Cobb, Turner, etc., sucked here last year. He’s back at voluntary camp, so I’m thinking his head’s in it. He has whatever he has to prove, and this is probably his last stop. 

Also, regardless of what anyone says, he has to be wondering if the jets are thinking qb either on day 1 or 2.  He’s probably one more injury away from retirement

[derp]

1 minute ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

My bad.  I think that's the same play from a different angle.  This was his other pass.  Nobody open.  

 

The OL definitely looks worse when the ball doesn’t come out, and it’s hard to make sure the ball gets out when you don’t have guys getting open.

[FidelioJet]

18 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

Also, regardless of what anyone says, he has to be wondering if the jets are thinking qb either on day 1 or 2.  He’s probably one more injury away from retirement

Is there's a QB they like at 10 they take him.