Jet_Engine1 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 25 minutes ago, T0mShane said: One the one hand, it’s Day 3 picks who have a 15% chance of making the roster. On the other hand, we watched a decent amount of street free agents playing important snaps for this franchise the past three years at spots that ended our seasons, so why not pack those spots out with athletes who ~might~ develop enough to be useful? We were dragging dudes off the couch to play guard last year. Our WR2 and 3 were very bad street free agents. In response to this, Douglas is using picks on multiple, redundant running backs? Just seems like a poor use of resources. Jordan Travis would have been a 1st rounder had he not gotten hurt. He is better than JJ, Nix, and has similar talent and ability to Penix. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 15 minutes ago, T0mShane said: If you showed up, you passed. The Joe Douglas Method. So u saying you didnt show up. cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 21 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I liked the Allen pick by itself, but Allen and Davis makes no sense. With Travis, think of it as drafting a smaller Bailey Zappe. Bro, are you ok?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 26 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Jordan Travis would have been a 1st rounder had he not gotten hurt. He is better than JJ, Nix, and has similar talent and ability to Penix. Hmmmm Penix has a bazooka. Very different type of QB. But am thrilled JD drafted Jordan Travis. Kid is ELECTRIC. We have NEVER had a a QB like this. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 12 minutes ago, kdels62 said: What’s the difference talent wise of a 5-7 rounder and a UDFA? Generally these all have the same possibility of success. Would you feel more comfortable knowing your WR4 is forced to start if he was a 5th round pick than if he was a 6th round pick, or a journeyman? Teams have deficiencies they just need to shove those deficiencies down the depth chart. Safety4, IOL4, and WR5 not being starter quality is a weird place to complain about asset management. I think the Douglas Project should have been to push guys like Brownlee and Gipson and Xavier Newman and Max Mitchell down the depth chart as humanly possible and—preferably—off the roster entirely, replacing them with high RAS potential dudes who may or may not develop over the summer. Instead he took two short yardage backup RBs and a QB who is never going to play. I get what you’re saying—at this point it’s all fliers on dudes—but what’s he really gaining with any of these picks? Even in the best case, they’re backups to backups types. You can’t even use the two RBs on specials. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 13 minutes ago, Obrien2Toon said: This is why you don’t trade back to accumulate 5-7 rounders Turned the assets into a third rounder next year which is actually valuable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 It seems like JD got cute, and he probably would have done better by simply staying put and using his three 4th rounders. I don't know much about these guys, but the general sentiment seems to be that there was still some decent talent on the board. As for the two RBs, it's an interesting strategy, but RB was certainly a need. I don't think it's particularly bad to have three young players battling for two spots behind Breece. The one who loses out will likely be stashed on the practice squad. RB is a young man's position, and it's never a bad thing to have multiple low mileage options as depth. We'll see how the individual players pan out. They all seem to have some potential from the little I have seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 8 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Jordan Travis would have been a 1st rounder had he not gotten hurt. He is better than JJ, Nix, and has similar talent and ability to Penix. Jordan Travis has no chance to make the final 53. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Engineer Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: Jordan Travis has no chance to make the final 53. haha what a dumb **** comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 7 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I think the Douglas Project should have been to push guys like Brownlee and Gipson and Xavier Newman and Max Mitchell down the depth chart as humanly possible and—preferably—off the roster entirely, replacing them with high RAS potential dudes who may or may not develop over the summer. Instead he took two short yardage backup RBs and a QB who is never going to play. I get what you’re saying—at this point it’s all fliers on dudes—but what’s he really gaining with any of these picks? Even in the best case, they’re backups to backups types. You can’t even use the two RBs on specials. Actual Davis does do specials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 12 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: 4.4 @ 250 lbs Where did you see 4.4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asymmetrical Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 5 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I think the Douglas Project should have been to push guys like Brownlee and Gipson and Xavier Newman and Max Mitchell down the depth chart as humanly possible and—preferably—off the roster entirely, replacing them with high RAS potential dudes who may or may not develop over the summer. Instead he took two short yardage backup RBs and a QB who is never going to play. I get what you’re saying—at this point it’s all fliers on dudes—but what’s he really gaining with any of these picks? Even in the best case, they’re backups to backups types. You can’t even use the two RBs on specials. I have a sentimental notion that when the Jets finally stumble on a QB it'll be some random mid round guy. So Travis fits that bill and I accept it, despite your correct assertion that he's not going to help the team this year or next. The two backs is just befuddling because even if it works... you've got an embarrassment of competent players behind mega-beast Breece Hall. I don't get it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 2 minutes ago, The Engineer said: haha what a dumb **** comment Paint that picture for me, super genius alt account Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 6 minutes ago, DoubleDown said: It seems like JD got cute, and he probably would have done better by simply staying put and using his three 4th rounders. I don't know much about these guys, but the general sentiment seems to be that there was still some decent talent on the board. As for the two RBs, it's an interesting strategy, but RB was certainly a need. I don't think it's particularly bad to have three young players battling for two spots behind Breece. The one who loses out will likely be stashed on the practice squad. RB is a young man's position, and it's never a bad thing to have multiple low mileage options as depth. We'll see how the individual players pan out. They all seem to have some potential from the little I have seen. yeah seems to me - he may have done better just sticking where he was and picked. Thought they needed another G too but guess we will see that later. With that said I willing to give them benefit of doubt because I have soft spot to RB and WR. I actually cant wait to see what Allen does in pre season ditto for Corley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 16 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Jordan Travis would have been a 1st rounder had he not gotten hurt. He is better than JJ, Nix, and has similar talent and ability to Penix. Every year, like clockwork….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Jordan Travis has no chance to make the final 53.I mean he shouldn’t right? Practice squad stash and call up if Rodgers Achilles hits the fan? Not even. Maybe practice squad noMatter what. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetswinbaby! Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 I think JD is drafting on his board's value vs. need at some specific position... Possibly drafting another Breece Hall would be much more valuable to the Jets than drafting a JAG at Safety just because it fills a need at Safety... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 12 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I think the Douglas Project should have been to push guys like Brownlee and Gipson and Xavier Newman and Max Mitchell down the depth chart as humanly possible and—preferably—off the roster entirely, replacing them with high RAS potential dudes who may or may not develop over the summer. Instead he took two short yardage backup RBs and a QB who is never going to play. I get what you’re saying—at this point it’s all fliers on dudes—but what’s he really gaining with any of these picks? Even in the best case, they’re backups to backups types. You can’t even use the two RBs on specials. They understood that hall is going to wear down and are likely going with a good rb rotation now. Also with the new kickoff rules who knows what the jets are doing. Finally we have a gm who invests in offense - LT, wr, rb - legitimate talents, guys who have nfl ready physiques and why complain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 1 minute ago, jetswinbaby! said: I think JD is drafting on his board's value vs. need at some specific position... Possibly drafting another Breece Hall would be much more valuable to the Jets than drafting a JAG at Safety just because it fills a need at Safety... to be fair he did get a S too...I think they are projecting Stiggers to S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 15 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I think the Douglas Project should have been to push guys like Brownlee and Gipson and Xavier Newman and Max Mitchell down the depth chart as humanly possible and—preferably—off the roster entirely, replacing them with high RAS potential dudes who may or may not develop over the summer. Instead he took two short yardage backup RBs and a QB who is never going to play. I get what you’re saying—at this point it’s all fliers on dudes—but what’s he really gaining with any of these picks? Even in the best case, they’re backups to backups types. You can’t even use the two RBs on specials. With Malik Washington and Jerry Rice's kid still there, drafting ANOTHER big, slowish back was dopey. But IMO, in 2025-26, Travis will be the most important pick from this entire draft. The kids got IT, saw a lot of FSU the last couple of years and the dude can play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Wait, they moved up for Stiggers? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Beaux Limmer just went 217. I feel like that would have been a much better choice than another goal line back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 5 minutes ago, Warfish said: Every year, like clockwork….. A. When have I, the biggest griper and draft sh*tter-uponer hyped a Jets draft pick like this? Darnold, maybe? B. That is a fact, Jordan Travis was pretty much a first-round lock before he broke his leg. The rest of this draft after Olu was trash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 14 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Jordan Travis has no chance to make the final 53. “I see him as a potential decade-long backup in the NFL” — Daniel Jeremiah Part of JD’s ”QB factory” 😂 I mean why take a guy with no upside? To honor AR’s ego? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 18 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I think the Douglas Project should have been to push guys like Brownlee and Gipson and Xavier Newman and Max Mitchell down the depth chart as humanly possible and—preferably—off the roster entirely, replacing them with high RAS potential dudes who may or may not develop over the summer. Instead he took two short yardage backup RBs and a QB who is never going to play. I get what you’re saying—at this point it’s all fliers on dudes—but what’s he really gaining with any of these picks? Even in the best case, they’re backups to backups types. You can’t even use the two RBs on specials. A better RAS guy than this?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 11 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Where did you see 4.4? https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Braelon-Allen-RB-Wisconsin No idea what their source is for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 I see they got a bag of chips for JFM 😂 Not quite the game-changing return we were hoping for @slats 🙂 With their final pick, instead of trading targeting RB57 on their board, maybe they should consider DT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 39 minutes ago, peekskill68 said: I didn't understand anything you were saying. I was just being polite hoping you'd explain. No worries.. My point is basically that the QB factory thing makes good sense usually (although I’m less convinced of it; there’s a lot of evidence that there’s basically no percentage in taking a QB outside the top 15). It makes less sense this year because we (presumably) have a QB and because said QB is 40, so we really need to be plowing resources into winning now, which in fact is exactly what we’ve been doing up until this draft started, and especially today. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 20 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I think the Douglas Project should have been to push guys like Brownlee and Gipson and Xavier Newman and Max Mitchell down the depth chart as humanly possible and—preferably—off the roster entirely, replacing them with high RAS potential dudes who may or may not develop over the summer. Instead he took two short yardage backup RBs and a QB who is never going to play. I get what you’re saying—at this point it’s all fliers on dudes—but what’s he really gaining with any of these picks? Even in the best case, they’re backups to backups types. You can’t even use the two RBs on specials. I do think drafting 2 RBs is bizarre and completely ridiculous. But if the Jets draft a receiver and he gets beat out by Brownlee then it’s a wasted pick and it’s panic because “JD can’t draft a receiver to replace a UDFA.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Maybe I'm seeing things through green colored glasses, but the biggest needs going into day three were RB, QB, S, and WR. They hit on three of four positions. I'll reserve judgement until we see what these players do on the field. From the few highlights I have watched, they all appear to have some talent and skills. Perhaps one of them can turn into a gem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 6 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: “I see him as a potential decade-long backup in the NFL” — Daniel Jeremiah Part of JD’s ”QB factory” 😂 I mean why take a guy with no upside? To honor AR’s ego? Backups have a lot or value. A good backup currently costs about $5-10 million per year. That ain’t chump change and costs for a reason. If he becomes a decade long back up from a 5th round pick, that’s a win. Anything more is gravy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 I’m thinking Brendan rice worked out a deal with a team already and thats why he hasn’t been drafted. He isn’t bad enough to be undrafted. I smell Jerry rice tampering here. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 11 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: A. When have I. ….. Wasn’t specific to you individually. 11 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: ……was pretty much a first-round lock before…., It was to this, generally. Like clockwork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 21 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Paint that picture for me, super genius alt account Joe Alt is here?!?!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Joe Alt is here?!?!?!?That hurts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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