Maxman Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 I'll attack that jackass whenever I feel like it. I've been attacked unprovoked by him enough times. If you don't like it, ban me. Thanks for the permission. But as outlined above, we are not going to ban you. What we are going to do...oh well. Nevermind. You will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Thanks for the permission. But as outlined above, we are not going to ban you. What we are going to do...oh well. Nevermind. You will see. You do what you want to do and I'll do what I want to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 here's the acid test for clemens; take off the green colored lenses imagine he plays for the seahawks what do you think of him ? I think the confidence/optimism for clemens is just wishful thinking by people with an emotional attachment to the JETS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 here's the acid test for clemens; take off the green colored lenses imagine he plays for the seahawks what do you think of him ? I think the confidence/optimism for clemens is just wishful thinking by people with an emotional attachment to the JETS heh. good post. if he played for any other team and the Jets traded for him everyone would think it was a bad joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piney Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 here's the acid test for clemens; take off the green colored lenses imagine he plays for the seahawks what do you think of him ? I think the confidence/optimism for clemens is just wishful thinking by people with an emotional attachment to the JETS I agree, and I also think that the Ratliff fans sufer from the same problem. The Favre fans probably do to. Lets use your example. Lets say the Seahawks had our year last season. Who would people think be the best option for the Seahawks..Favre, CLemens, or Ratliff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Hey Mike -- remember like 8,000 times when I told you personal attacks were not allowed? Yeah, you chose to ignore that. Moderators: Operation New Identity is now in effect. Legal Disclaimer: JetNation owns all user names and can do with them as they see fit. That includes but is not limited to posting in a homosexual manner. cool ! a hazing ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 You do what you want to do and I'll do what I want to do. Holy crap, that is awesome. It doesn't work the way you outlined but hey great post regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I agree, and I also think that the Ratliff fans sufer from the same problem. The Favre fans probably do to. Lets use your example. Lets say the Seahawks had our year last season. Who would people think be the best option for the Seahawks..Favre, CLemens, or Ratliff? good point I would have to say favre as much as it makes my stomach hurt then clemens then ratliff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 You do what you want to do and I'll do what I want to do. Is it really that hard not to be a blatant *******? Serious question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Even if you just want to throw out the 2007 season, which I think is a big part of his problems, those practice and training camp stories have to be alarming. People can spin it however they want, but Chad pasted him in camp this year. The only reason you heard little stories of Clemens catching up at times was because the writers just needed something to write about. He was dreadful. And it doesnt seem like he got much better during this season. I wouldnt hnd the reigns to Ratliff either. To me that is just as hasty as saying Clemens should have gotten the nod last season. Right now Ratliff reminds me a little of Derrick Anderson who isnt very good, but admittedly I dont think I have seen enough to make that comparison. If those two and Ainge are the only options I say let them battle it out. If the Jets can not draft someone, and I dont know if there is even a good QB in the draft, my guess is we see at least 2 QBs start next year. Maybe 3 if all 3 make the team. Jason did you witness this first hand? I know JMJ went to a few and he said both Chad and Clemens were awful. Good thing we are keeping baby Schott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 So is Madmike banned or have his details just been hi-jacked? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 So is Madmike banned or have his details just been hi-jacked? LOL Question our tactics and you're next. You get one warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 There isn't much of a case for Clemens. He's been a disappointment since we drafted him. Take off the green colored glasses, and see him for what he is: a career backup at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piney Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Question our tactics and you're next. You get one warning. Just what are your tactics? Why the warnings!!!! Who do you mods think you are!!!! (figure I would get my one transgression in) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I guess it's OK for mods to abuse their power to **** with posters they have personal problems with too. Somehow that doesn't seem to bother you that much huh? You asked me to neg rep you. and when I did you kept disabling your rep, so I keep turning it back on for you. I aim to please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Question our tactics and you're next. You get one warning. I get one warning or was that my one warning? I'm confused. Either way YOU BRING NOTHING TO THE TABLE! Get out of the NFL forum you CLUELESS poster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 No questions. At least I got you on record condoning the abuse of power that goes on around here. I don't really care anymore. Abuse of power? You don't happen to post on JI as "Letsgojets" by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Disclaimer: madmike will never be banned. it's too much fun using him as a punching bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Disclaimer: madmike will never be banned. it's too much fun using him as a punching bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 madmike just sent me a pm asking to see my peepee... what gives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Disclaimer: madmike will never be banned. it's too much fun using him as a punching bag. But how can that be? He knows so much more about football than the rest of us.... He's enlightened us with gems like "We'll get lucky and Gholson will fall in our laps here" on draft day and one of my favorites "Chad Pennington is better than Drew Brees" right along with Wes Welker having an all world year PROVED that angrymichael was right in saying that Welker sucks. Timeless classics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piney Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 this is the case for Clemens' football career: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 madmike just sent me a pm asking to see my peepee... what gives? Yes that was definitely Madmike. That definitely wasn't me or any of the mods. Just wanted to clear that up. Just to be safe please cc me on all pee pee responses going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 madmike just sent me a pm asking to see my peepee... what gives? So you're saying madmike IS Letsgojets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 having that veteran back-up is way over rated IMO....To throw a Ratliff, Ainge or Clemens off the team for say a Brad Johnson or Vinny T has proven to not be any advantage at all...for all Herm's faults, I liked what he did with that young QB this year Then keep all 3 on board AND bring in a veteran or a drafted QB into the mix. We had 4 QB's on the roster this season, whose to say we can't do the same next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebabyny Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Also -- I like the part about me being on record. Like this is some sort of Congressional hearing or something, lol. LOL, and like you don't have the powers to pretty much rewrite history on here anyway! lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason423 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Jason did you witness this first hand? I know JMJ went to a few and he said both Chad and Clemens were awful. Good thing we are keeping baby Schott No I didnt go to any of the practices this year. Im just going by things I read and heard or listened to in the scrimmage, and a few thoughts from some folks who were there for just about everything. The vibe I got was that it was a competition in name only and that very early on it was pretty much a given who was the starting QB for the team. Im not sure too many people there said Chad was ever awful. Chad was just Chad. I remember JMJ was pretty harsh on both of them when he was there for something like a week or two, but I think Chad sucking was just his usual self or at least how most of us viewed him. Clemens basically had one pass of merit all camp---a nice seam route to Dustin Keller(it may have been in the scrimmage) where everyone went nuts about how Chad could never make that throw. The rest of the time the ball was in the hands of the defenders or on the ground. Im not a huge Clemens supporter but I dont think this would have happenned if they hadnt brought him in to QB the team in 2007. I think mentally it wrecked him. He got progressively worse each week and this year could not even look respectable in the preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 So you're saying madmike IS Letsgojets? Kleck made a funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Also -- I like the part about me being on record. Like this is some sort of Congressional hearing or something, lol. Max being on record in Congress would go over about the same as Roger "Clemens" being on record at Congress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Then keep all 3 on board AND bring in a veteran or a drafted QB into the mix. We had 4 QB's on the roster this season, whose to say we can't do the same next year? that would mean the draftee or Ainge would have to be put on the PS....why risk losing a draftee that way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 Max being on record in Congress would go over about the same as Roger "Clemens" being on record at Congress Hey that isn't fair. I would never lie to Congress. You guys I don't have a problem lying to. Big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Some entertaining stuff. So what really happened to madmike? Back to the thread topic, it is not in the Jets financial interest for Clemens to win the starting job in 2009. Clemens is an UFA after the 2009 season. Thus, if Clemens wins the starting job and plays well, the Jets will either be forced to sign him long term based on only 1 good season (see how that blew up in Cleveland's face with Anderson) or franchise him which will take up a big chuck of the 2010 cap. For the Jets financial future, the best situation is to extend Ratliff now on favorable terms before the 2009 starts (that option would not be viable for Clemens because he would seek more than Ratliff) and have Ratliff win the starting job. This way, Ratliff would be the starter on a favorable contract and Clemens could walk after 2009 or sign at a more cap friendly deal. Now, if Clemens wants to sign an extension before the season on Jet-favorable terms (I don't think he'd do it and it would be smart from his agent's vantage point), I am not against it. But I'm thinking Clemens would want to take the Derek Anderson route of winning the starting job and hit it big with an extension or franchising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Thanks for all the comments everyone. It had been a long time since my last article, I thought I might've came out stupid. Hope you enjoyed it no matter if you are in the Clemens or Ratliff Camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Thanks for all the comments everyone. Hope you enjoyed it no matter if you are in the Clemens or Ratliff Camp. I'm in the whoever is best for the job camp 124-as long as it's NOT Brett Favre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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