Barton Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Practice is definitely harder than the games for Quinton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 You merged a thread on Coples being awesome with a thread on Pettine tapping his practice habits? These are similar topics? Can we merge all threads on the Jets too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Can we merge all threads on the Jets too? LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Coples is a stud. Wilkerson is a stud. Ellis is the biggest and meanest of the three. Which OLB benefits the most, Pace or Maybin? I like a return for Pace and the potential emergence of Maybin. what are you basing this "stud" conclusion on ? Coples has not played an NFL game and Wilkerson had a decent first year. Do you think either one of them is Jason Paul type stud ? Cause thats a stud. And if Ellis is the meanest of the three what exactly has he proven ? I think before we label any of these three players we should actully see them do something. Or at least make a big play in the 4th Quarter of a game with the game on the line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergen Jet Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 You merged a thread on Coples being awesome with a thread on Pettine tapping his practice habits? These are similar topics? Rookie mistake. Be easy on the new guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Based on what we've seen so far, would you guys have rather us drafted Coples or a Right Tackle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 what are you basing this "stud" conclusion on ? Coples has not played an NFL game and Wilkerson had a decent first year. Do you think either one of them is Jason Paul type stud ? Cause thats a stud. And if Ellis is the meanest of the three what exactly has he proven ? I think before we label any of these three players we should actully see them do something. Or at least make a big play in the 4th Quarter of a game with the game on the line I think Wilkerson could be on his way to being a stud. He's lost some weight this year, as the only thing he really struggled with last season was his closing speed....but the guy is very strong at the point of attack and was never fooled and never looked out of position. He started from game 1 and we never really had to worry about him. Coples played a lot better than I thought he would, but the majority of it was against backups. He seems tobe a guy that plays better in the game than practice I guess. We'll see though. Calling him a stud as of now is a bit premature. And you're right, guys like JPP are studs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Based on what we've seen so far, would you guys have rather us drafted Coples or a Right Tackle? What right tackle were they supposed to take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 What right tackle were they supposed to take? Could've traded down and looked at Rieff, Glenn, or Martin. I'm liking what I'm seeing from Coples so far, but it seems like any position on D is a luxury position. I'm absolutely s#itting bricks about RT right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Could've traded down and looked at Rieff, Glenn, or Martin. I'm liking what I'm seeing from Coples so far, but it seems like any position on D is a luxury position. I'm absolutely s#itting bricks about RT right now. I'm a fan of drafting value over need. I believe that if you constantly draft value, needs will eventually take care of themselves, and your team will be better overall. Coples was widely seen to be a top 10 pick prior to the draft. I think he was definitely a high value pick at an impact position. So I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Could've traded down and looked at Rieff, Glenn, or Martin. I'm liking what I'm seeing from Coples so far, but it seems like any position on D is a luxury position. I'm absolutely s#itting bricks about RT right now. Two years ago we couldve had wisnewski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Yeah, Ellis definitely looked good out there, and that was at the start of the game with the 1s. A NT isn't typically going to make a lot of the big plays that catch people's attention, but he still played damn well, and when you have a NT chasing RBs down to the sideline, that's pretty damn cool to see. The DL is the last place for anyone to be concerned about with this team. Dude was a monster on Friday night. I haven't seen a Jets NT blow up the blocking scheme that consistently since a certain number 73. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I think Wilkerson could be on his way to being a stud. He's lost some weight this year, as the only thing he really struggled with last season was his closing speed....but the guy is very strong at the point of attack and was never fooled and never looked out of position. He started from game 1 and we never really had to worry about him. Coples played a lot better than I thought he would, but the majority of it was against backups. He seems tobe a guy that plays better in the game than practice I guess. We'll see though. Calling him a stud as of now is a bit premature. And you're right, guys like JPP are studs. Smash likes to go out on the limb like that, but JPP is only one type of stud according to the post. At least the type thing is acknowledged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I'm glad Ellis is starting to show signs of why he was SenorGato's favorite player in the 2011 draft. As studly a DT/DL talent you'll find in the third round. Two years ago we couldve had wisnewski. Tannenbaum does nothing but cause pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Coples is a stud. Wilkerson is a stud. Ellis is the biggest and meanest of the three. Which OLB benefits the most, Pace or Maybin? I like a return for Pace and the potential emergence of Maybin. I say Bryan Thomas. He really looks like he could finally become Terrell Suggs now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I say Bryan Thomas. He really looks like he could finally become Terrell Suggs now. Good, the LBs could use some young blood in there. Thomas' size and speed should bring a whole new dynamic to the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 What right tackle were they supposed to take? Ummm how about cordy glenn in 2rd instead of thrill hill also decastro was the right pick instead of coples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Ummm how about cordy glenn in 2rd instead of thrill hill also decastro was the right pick instead of coples I like offensive linemen as much as the next guy, but is that all we were supposed to draft? Wouldn't we be hearing about how we neglected our skill positions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAG6W5jyo3c&feature=player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 I like offensive linemen as much as the next guy, but is that all we were supposed to draft? Wouldn't we be hearing about how we neglected our skill positions? Decastro and Glenn would both start, Hill is a project , Coples who knows if motor will ever stay on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAG6W5jyo3c&feature=player[/media] look at coples pull up on 11 yd bjge run to left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 I'm glad Ellis is starting to show signs of why he was SenorGato's favorite player in the 2011 draft. As studly a DT/DL talent you'll find in the third round. Tannenbaum does nothing but cause pain. We both loved the Ellis pick. And Mo Wilk was my guy. God we are so good and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 look at coples pull up on 11 yd bjge run to left Oh you mean the play where he was being held? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 God we are so good and stuffed. Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 look at coples pull up on 11 yd bjge run to left Pace didn't set the edge there or else Coples would've had bjge for a loss Coples looks raw, not seeing well and leaving some lanes open trying to rush QB but it's the first week. He looked better as game went on. Great job to whomever edited. Thank y so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAG6W5jyo3c&feature=player 4-3 for life We are the little Giants I'll take it. Love the 4-3 At least the D is gonna be sick I havent seen us get pressure in a long time. We finally have the personnel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Ummm how about cordy glenn in 2rd instead of thrill hill also decastro was the right pick instead of coples It's what it is. Coples looks Promising. There no way we don't go OL next year though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAG6W5jyo3c&feature=player[/media] Looks like he got penetration on about 50% of plays. When he did not, he showed he was ready to stay with the play with a nice 2nd effort, at least holding his own in the vast majority of plays. Rarely lost the 1 on 1 battle. Yes, this guy could be good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 look at coples pull up on 11 yd bjge run to left Are you saying you weren't impressed with that performance? Because you might be the 1st to say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Looks like he got penetration on about 50% of plays. When he did not, he showed he was ready to stay with the play with a nice 2nd effort, at least holding his own in the vast majority of plays. Rarely lost the 1 on 1 battle. Yes, this guy could be good... One of the more impressive plays was when he lined up over the center and took the C and G which opened up a lane for a sack. He was lined up all over the line and made plays at each spot. Good sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 He looked good. Seemed a little slow off the snap at first. Not like he was slow, but like he was scared of an offsides. He certainly got better as the game went on or the opposition got worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 DeCastro and Glenn would both start, Hill is a project , Coples who knows if motor will ever stay on o_0 Coples and Hill are both starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 o_0 Coples and Hill are both starting. U are much smarter than that, team wants to go G&P meanwhile OL suks cack. passed on winston as well. who knows if coples or hill will ever make it big, BTW not to hard to start on jets as a wr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 U are much smarter than that, team wants to go G&P meanwhile OL suks cack. passed on winston as well. who knows if coples or hill will ever make it big, BTW not to hard to start on jets as a wr. Passing on Winston is a valid complaint. Saying that it's "not to hard to start on jets as a wr," is a pretty clear admission that the Jets had a serious need at the position. "who knows if coples or hill will ever make it big"? They both have a much bigger chance of "making it big" than a guard who's struggling a little bit right now on the Steelers. There's no clear evidence that either of the OL you wanted were slam dunks. Significantly more upside with the guys the Jets took, and I -for one- am pretty content with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Passing on Winston is a valid complaint. Saying that it's "not to hard to start on jets as a wr," is a pretty clear admission that the Jets had a serious need at the position. "who knows if coples or hill will ever make it big"? They both have a much bigger chance of "making it big" than a guard who's struggling a little bit right now on the Steelers. There's no clear evidence that either of the OL you wanted were slam dunks. Significantly more upside with the guys the Jets took, and I -for one- am pretty content with that. From what I read Decastro was a beast, Adams was awful by all accounts. time will tell. If jets get off to a slow start, season will be over before it started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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