itsJETStime Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 If I were john idizk I would try to get Holmes to take a paycut for next year and put a team option ... So I would he restructuring the contract to give him a paycut and put in a team option that would keep him at a fair (low) salary for 2 additional years ... Either Holmes agrees or gets cut ... I think that would be a win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsJETStime Posted March 8, 2014 Author Share Posted March 8, 2014 The only reason I would consider doing this is because while Holmes isn't a true #1 neither is anybody in free agency and those would demand much heftier salaries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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j4jets Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 The only reason I would consider doing this is because while Holmes isn't a true #1 neither is anybody in free agency and those would demand much heftier salaries It's time he leaves I think. I agree, when healthy, he's the best WR out of all FAs including him. But he carries baggage with him and that baggage isn't worth it for a young QB. Unless he's willing to stay for a couple mil, Jets need to move on n forget about him. I really want the Jets to draft Watkins. Just figure out a way to possibly trade with Jags. As long as we're not giving up two 1sts, for him, I think this is a real deal here. If he slips past Raiders, the Jets may very we'll pull the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I don't think they'd keep him for the vet minimum. I can put up with a lot of nonsense from these guys, but I was done with Holmes when he threw the ball to the 49ers when he hurt his foot. Take the ball to the ground, then cry like your prom date left with another guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishing92070 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Another Rocket Scientist here. The guy has quit on the team numerous times and can't get open. Do you really want him back? Some of you guys must be content with mediocrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfanincanada Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I need to think about this for a while and get back to you on this. . . . . NOPE!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I don't think they'd keep him for the vet minimum. I can put up with a lot of nonsense from these guys, but I was done with Holmes when he threw the ball to the 49ers when he hurt his foot. Take the ball to the ground, then cry like your prom date left with another guy. Agreed. He is a turd and acts as poison for the team. I'm sure he still has a lot left in the tank and will probably make some exciting plays for a team this coming season, but his plays on the field are outweighed by his give up and bitch attitude. The sooner he is gone the better. I would LOOOOOOVE if we could get a pick for him in a trade but doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better2bgreenthanblue Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 WTf? No way. NO! If Holmes paid to play I would say no! Jets need to flush the aholes like Holmes and build a winning spirit. gotta be 10 WR's in the draft better than that broken down diva. Trade up for Watkins, trade down and get 2 for 1 I don't care but no more Holmes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 When you are this far under the cap, you can afford to let a guy like this go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 They cant afford to keep this guy if they are trying to build a contending team. He is part of the losing culture the Jets have developed and must go. Oh forgot .....Geno is very insecure after seeing Holmes dick pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorge o8 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 this guy is a cancer and not good to have a around young players let him walk!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lego My Lageman Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Just no, sometimes its just time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsJETStime Posted March 8, 2014 Author Share Posted March 8, 2014 They cant afford to keep this guy if they are trying to build a contending team. He is part of the losing culture the Jets have developed and must go. Oh forgot .....Geno is very insecure after seeing Holmes dick pic Part of the losing culture? Really?!? Holmes played 3 season for us (was on the team 5 but was hurt 2/5) ... None were losing season, made it to the AFCC twice (we only made in to the playoffs in 09 thanks to Holmes) then was 8-8 once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I'm on board with completely letting Holmes go. I do not think he's anywhere near the player he once was and definitely doesn't deserve that contract he got. One thing that scares me is Holmes going to New England. Brady will rejuvenate his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Part of the losing culture? Really?!? Holmes played 3 season for us (was on the team 5 but was hurt 2/5) ... None were losing season, made it to the AFCC twice (we only made in to the playoffs in 09 thanks to Holmes) then was 8-8 once When I think of Holmes the first word that comes to mind is obviously Captain, but winner is a close second Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JET80TV Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Part of the losing culture? Really?!? Holmes played 3 season for us (was on the team 5 but was hurt 2/5) ... None were losing season, made it to the AFCC twice (we only made in to the playoffs in 09 thanks to Holmes) then was 8-8 once yeah thanks 'tone for eekin us into the playoffs in '09 playoffs while wearing black and gold. he really is far better than we give him credit for:/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Don't want it to happen, but it is sure possible. If they don't want to over pay a guy like Golden Tate, and the draft just falls that they have to take players other then a WR in the 1st 2 rounds, Holmes is a short term fall back option if no body else in interested in him. They might not be. I suspect his value has fallen through the trap door in a receiver rich draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Another Rocket Scientist here. The guy has quit on the team numerous times and can't get open. Do you really want him back? Some of you guys must be content with mediocrity. Listen you can disagree with the post, but there is no reason to attack the poster. We won't tolerate that here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 It is possible I guess, but as was mentioned earlier in this thread I think this is more than money. They would probably walk from him at the vet minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Santonio Holmes vet minimum taking the roster spot of Stephen Hill is ok by me. Santonio Holmes instead of Nicks,Britt,Decker not ok by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsJETStime Posted March 8, 2014 Author Share Posted March 8, 2014 Listen you can disagree with the post, but there is no reason to attack the poster. We won't tolerate that here. Thanks but I didn't take it as an attack ..... Just took it as him attempting to give additional validity to his opinion ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsJETStime Posted March 8, 2014 Author Share Posted March 8, 2014 yeah thanks 'tone for eekin us into the playoffs in '09 playoffs while wearing black and gold. he really is far better than we give him credit for:/ sorry you are correct I meant '10 I screwed up the timeline he's only been on the jets for 4 seasons, played for 2 with an AFCC run and 8-8 my point remains though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsJETStime Posted March 8, 2014 Author Share Posted March 8, 2014 It is possible I guess, but as was mentioned earlier in this thread I think this is more than money. They would probably walk from him at the vet minimum. I do agree that maybe walking away from Holmes is the best plan especially due to his baggage however Im having a hard time finding somebody in free agency worth letting going of Holmes (who took a paycut and is playing for a lot more reasonable salary) and replacing with an overpriced free agent (Decker, Nicks or Tate)... If the prices were equal or slightly then yes I would take them over Holmes but at a much greater price Id rather stick to a cheaper Holmes and draft 2 WRs to hopefully replace him and if not try free agency next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I do agree that maybe walking away from Holmes is the best plan especially due to his baggage however Im having a hard time finding somebody in free agency worth letting going of Holmes (who took a paycut and is playing for a lot more reasonable salary) and replacing with an overpriced free agent (Decker, Nicks or Tate)... If the prices were equal or slightly then yes I would take them over Holmes but at a much greater price Id rather stick to a cheaper Holmes and draft 2 WRs to hopefully replace him and if not try free agency next year This is one of those deals where on paper you will never be able to justify not bringing Holmes back if the price was low. But seeing his actions the past few years just tells another story. The Jets are a .500 team that celebrates after a first down in the 2nd quarter. That ball dropping act of his, well that should go with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 If I were john idizk I would try to get Holmes to take a paycut for next year and put a team option ... So I would he restructuring the contract to give him a paycut and put in a team option that would keep him at a fair (low) salary for 2 additional years ... Either Holmes agrees or gets cut ... I think that would be a win Cut him. We can spend a portion of that money on a sure hands Golden Tate. Atleast Tate doesnt need high definition eye contacts to drop the ball. Go in the draft, pick up Matthews and another wideout. Call it a day. Solidify both OG positions in free agency. They should cut Ducasse too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 When Holmes plays, Geno forces the ball to him despite him not being open, or catching the ball. The team is better without him chirping in the QBs ear, begging for the biscuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 We have already wiped, zipped up our pants, and put our tie back on. When the turd is swirling around the bowl you do not reach in and pull it out at the last second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCJETSFAN Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 When u decide to cut a player. Just move on besides someone will pay him more than vet min ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Absolute vet min and he competes for the wr2 position is the only way he comes back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjets Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Time to take out the trash! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 When Holmes plays, Geno forces the ball to him despite him not being open, or catching the ball. The team is better without him chirping in the QBs ear, begging for the biscuit. Absolutely, happened on a handful of Geno's interceptions this year. Not absolving Geno for the poor throw, but it's never a good thing when you force a ball to a receiver. Unless of course that QB is Stafford and it's double or triple coverage to CJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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