Jetsfan80 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Your entire consortium has been exposed as the fraud many of us knew it was. The very 1st coach hired by the team that interviewed the most candidates? Ouch babe. Shane is definitely reeling a bit, but I think the fact that the Bills hired Rex gives his fans little to thump their chests about. Instead of an ideal spot like Chicago or Atlanta who wouldn't give him the time of day, he gets a low-rate franchise with no QB and he may have to deal with a LOT of tension with a known a$$hole in Jim Schwartz. The Bills have no intention of letting their incumbent Defensive Coordinator go. This isn't going to end up a win for Rex or Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I'll bet they sign Sanchez too. That would be glorious. That actually would be great..LOL I see a fun year coming up in the AFC East.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Weeks shouldn't come as a surprise. He's the new Pettine for Rex. Hahaha. Come on man. This is Jeff Weeks, from "Collision Low Crossers". Yeah, next Pettine for sure. But much of the job of coaching in the NFL took place within offices and classrooms, in meetings and on computers. Modern football coaches couldn’t have done their jobs without constant reliance on computers, which analyzed every aspect of the game for them and also served as their means for exchanging information. They used computers to break down and dissect the game film of opponents; on computers they built the game plans, and on computers they drew the opponent’s best plays after choosing them from the film breakdowns. These drawings were then printed out on cards and run live by the players in practice. Jeff Weeks did not fully understand the new programs that allowed football coaches to do all this. Perhaps he didn’t want to. He said he considered computers the “inefficient” tools of “desk coaches,” making Weeks at this point similar to a nineteenth-century textile worker railing against automated looms. Nor did he have much regard for the single-mindedness of those around him. “Football’s football,” he would say. “They’re putting people on the moon who work less than us. Guys who operate on brains work less.” More than the other coaches, Weeks explored New Jersey; he ventured into the ethnic neighborhoods of Newark and Brooklyn and even started to learn Portuguese. There were those in the organization who thought Weeks was plenty smart and more clever than most people gave him credit for. Others sympathized with him, saying that Ryan had placed Weeks in “a horrible position.” But they also said that, given the opportunity Ryan had presented to such an inexperienced professional coach, Weeks ought to be the hardest-working man in the building. Weeks reported to Pettine. Pettine was all about winning. He thought that since so many uncontrollable variables decided whether or not a football team would be successful, it was vital to control what variables you could. Pettine believed Jeff Weeks was impeding the Jets’ chances to be successful. In midseason of 2010, Pettine wrote and distributed a ten-point memo entitled “Coach like a Jet” that detailed his expectations for defensive coaches. These included “Can grade their players bluntly and honestly based on detailed knowledge of each defensive call” and “Completes their weekly scouting report assignment and practice cards professionally and on time.” He did this because Weeks was falling short in many areas, and Pettine wanted Weeks to understand what was expected of him; he also wanted to spare Ryan what he knew would be a painful confrontation. Mostly, Weeks concentrated on keeping out of Pettine’s way, and in the daily defensive meetings led by Pettine, he refrained from saying a word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouisvilleSlugger25 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Rex without an established QB is not much of a concern to me as a Jets fan. The Bills defense was already good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny16 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 If nothing else, this puts a little heat back into the Jets/Bills rivalry, at least for me. Maybe it's because I've had friends in the past who were Bills fans whereas I really haven't had any Dolphins or Pats fans that I've really known, but I've never hated the Bills in the way that I've despised Miami and New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I think ellis is out. snacks is a guy you find room on the roster for. I think they can tender him at a 1st/2nd pretty easily but I'm not sure of the details Ellis is possibly out but he's not the "odd man out", he's irrelevant. The problem is that Wilkerson and Richardson would both slide inside in a 4-3 for the most part. Meaning that we'd need a new RE in this scheme. Snacks is still the odd man out when you remove Ellis from the equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Hahaha. Come on man. This is Jeff Weeks, from "Collision Low Crossers":A coach in any competitive sport ast any level who refuses to use very common and accepted technology is a failure. This is Rex Ryan's best buddy, and he basically choose this doing nothing happytalk drinking buddy over Pettine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Ole Rex will certainly want to run the Jets noses in sh*t for letting him guy. Same way that that he did with the Ravens, and how much he go the teams up for those games. Oh yeah, Rex was 0-3 against the Ravens. This has a Pete Carroll feel to it, as he went to NE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Life Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Buffalo hires a coach they beat down twice .. Interesting choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 If nothing else, this puts a little heat back into the Jets/Bills rivalry, at least for me. Maybe it's because I've had friends in the past who were Bills fans whereas I really haven't had any Dolphins or Pats fans that I've really known, but I've never hated the Bills in the way that I've despised Miami and New England. That's probably how 90% of Jet fans have seen felt.. Until now they can take out their Rex hatred on the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Does Rex sell his house in Summit N.J and relocate to Buffalo N.Y is the bigger question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 And this is soooo awesome he's in the division. So awesome. Really couldn't have worked out worse for the Jets. Where are all the Jet Fans on this site that guaranteed Rex would never get a HC job again? He got the first one, and just got a guaranteed 5 year/28m deal. Those people that made those predictions know absolutely nothing. So Where are those people that had no idea what they were talking about? They are filling this thread with statements like "Buffalo is doomed now" or " The Jets got so lucky Rex is in Buffalo" etc etc. The Bottom line is it is never good to have your coaches go to a division rival. I think Rex should have been fired but this certainly is terrible news for the Jets. People act like coaches never improve or do poorly on their second head coaching job. Tell that to Pete Carrol/Bill Belicheck. Both Former Jet coaches with Super bowl rings that will likely play each other in this years big game. Our Team is currently the worst in our division - We have alot of work to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Ellis is possibly out but he's not the "odd man out", he's irrelevant. The problem is that Wilkerson and Richardson would both slide inside in a 4-3 for the most part. Meaning that we'd need a new RE in this scheme. Snacks is still the odd man out when you remove Ellis from the equation. coples ? most teams run multiple fronts, they will find a way to keep snacks imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 You are the king of living in the past. It is all you do. I'm not happy Rex ended up in buffalo. I'm not convinced the jets will beat them 10 times in a row over the next 5 years like you are. Rex's MO has been beating the Patriots sometimes when it's unexpected, and losing divisional games he shouldn't. I think its actually perfect that he ended up in the division. We're not going to dominate the Bills but ultimately I fail to see how this ends well for them. Maybe they have a successful year or 2 while we continue to rebuild, but unless Rex somehow learns how to work with young QB's, delegate properly and avoid making poor clock and game management decisions, his luster will fade very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I think Rex deserves his own message board! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 A coach in any competitive sport ast any level who refuses to use very common and accepted technology is a failure. This is Rex Ryan's best buddy, and he basically choose this doing nothing happytalk drinking buddy over Pettine. Once Weeks was asked to make some simple player cards for an upcoming opponent. Weeks forgot so Rex did it for him. Next Pettine!!! The fact that he's even considering bringing Weeks over means he's learned nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Ole Rex will certainly want to run the Jets noses in sh*t for letting him guy. Same way that that he did with the Ravens, and how much he go the teams up for those games. Oh yeah, Rex was 0-3 against the Ravens. This has a Pete Carroll feel to it, as he went to NE Pete Carroll never had a losing season in NE and made the playoffs 2 of the 3 years he was there.. The BB replaced him and went 5-11 until Brady in year 2.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Really couldn't have worked out worse for the Jets. Where are all the Jet Fans on this site that guaranteed Rex would never get a HC job again? He got the first one, and just got a guaranteed 5 year/28m deal. Those people that made those predictions know absolutely nothing. So Where are those people that had no idea what they were talking about? They are filling this thread with statements like "Buffalo is doomed now" or " The Jets got so lucky Rex is in Buffalo" etc etc. The Bottom line is it is never good to have your coaches go to a division rival. I think Rex should have been fired but this certainly is terrible news for the Jets. People act like coaches never improve or do poorly on their second head coaching job. Tell that to Pete Carrol/Bill Belicheck. Both Former Jet coaches with Super bowl rings that will likely play each other in this years big game. Our Team is currently the worst in our division - We have alot of work to do. Yes. Sheer terror has overtaken all of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Once Weeks was asked to make some simple player cards for an upcoming opponent. Weeks forgot so Rex did it for him. Next Pettine!!! The fact that he's even considering bringing Weeks over means he's learned nothing. is this the guy on hard knocks that didn't know how many feet are in a yard ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Per reports Schwartz will be staying on as DC. Thurman screwed. Yeah, good start for Rex's tenure. Already denied his Defensive Coordinator. And now he has to oversee an egomaniac who once had his players carry him off the field after a regular season win (not even as a Head Coach, as a DC). This is a great day, Jets fans. Embrace it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Coples - Wilk - Sheldon - FA DE The best DE's on the market are Greg Hardy & JPP. Tender Snacks, trade him, re-sign Ellis, re-sign Douzable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 is this the guy on hard knocks that didn't know how many feet are in a yard ? Wouldn't surprise me. The "Tyson rules" apply for this guy. I.E. one would believe any story someone makes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 good old harry already has the fever, lol I also think the talent around Rex deteriorated over the years, bad gm and ownership, it will b better in buffalo, the key to his success, is selecting the right asst coaches. He doesn't have a proven qb but lets c how ej comes into next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 coples ? most teams run multiple fronts, they will find a way to keep snacks imho Nothing against Harrison but he's an eminently replaceable DL guy, not a Pro Bowler. He isn't as good as Pouha or Devito were in the same or similar spots,and he benefits from the talent around him being the focus of OCs facing the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Coples - Wilk - Sheldon - FA DE The best DE's on the market are Greg Hardy & JPP. Tender Snacks, trade him, re-sign Ellis, re-sign Douzable. Just don't trade him to Buff. Great run stuffer. Don't want to face him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Pete Carroll never had a losing season in NE and made the playoffs 2 of the 3 years he was there.. The BB replaced him and went 5-11 until Brady in year 2.. Not sure if I remember this correctly, but was AL Groh the HC of the Jets the year Brady won his 1st Super Bowl ? Didn't the Jets with Vinny at QB had the Patriots on the ropes with their season on the line before the Jets blew the Game ? Didn't Groh make a comment about Vinny giving the game away with his INTs ? Am I all wet old friend ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I think Rex deserves his own message board!Had roughly the same thing going on after Herman Edwards decamped for KC. WHich didn't work out too good for the Chiefs, and Edwards made his way to TV. This figures to play out the same. By contrast even with a 9-7 record nobody was sorry to see Al Groh or Eric Mangini make for the exit sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Nothing against Harrison but he's an eminently replaceable DL guy, not a Pro Bowler. He isn't as good as Pouha or Devito were in the same or similar spots,and he benefits from the talent around him being the focus of OCs facing the Jets. Disagree. Snacks has made a ton of stops behind LOS. He's been a beast. Top 5 in the league IMO. 2nd round tender... is a fair tender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Just don't trade him to Buff. Great run stuffer. Don't want to face him. Just wait till Rex has to deal with Kubiak's zone blocking scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Just don't trade him to Buff. Great run stuffer. Don't want to face him. No way they trade him within the division. 49ers would be a good fit, or Atlanta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 They are keeping Schwartz, so maybe they actually won't change schemes on D, but instead will incorporate some of Rex's pass-rush philosophies to what Schwartz already has in place. I'm also seeing that they'll hire Greg Roman. I wonder if Rex had any say in the coaches being put around him, or if he's deferring already to what other people give him, so that he's well-positioned to finger-point in a year from now. So Roman runs the O, Schwartz runs the D. What exactly will Rex do? Stare at the clock and ask Jeff Weeks if it's too early to call a timeout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I'll take our D-Line over theirs, thank you. All their guys are signed to huge contracts, they're much older, they have red flags. Pace & Landry would fit right in. No red flags, but they suck, they're old and overpaid. Almost forgot Pace's 2.4 mil salary along with Landrys 1.5. And Mo n Snacks will need to be resigned too, but I guess they wouldn't ask for than couple mil each, right? Give me a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Honestly, Rex Ryan is exactly what the Bills, their fans, and the city of Buffalo actually needed. This is a perfect fit except for the fact they have EJ Manuel. And no more Kyle Orton. And no 1st round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYallDay Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 This is gonna suck playing against him Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 All this while having the #1 or #2 D over the last 6 yrs. really? the jets had ther number 1 defense in 2009. after that its become progressively worse under ryan. 2009 total yards: 1st total point: 1st 2010 total yards: 3rd total points: 6th 2011 total yards: 5th total points: 20th run: 13th 2012 total yards: 8th total points: 20th run: 26th 2013 total yards: 11th total points: 19th pass: 22nd 2014 total; yards: 6th total points: 24th pass: 14th lets not forget the defenses propensity to fail when it matters. rex's defense was great for one year and pretty good the year after. the last 4 years we have watched the defense get worse and worse, giving up more and more yards and points. now i'd classify it as mediocre at best and actually sort of bad. 24th in points allowed. that's dreadful. the only thing we do well is stop the run. which works out really well in the new nfl's pass friendly league now doesn't it? idk where people come up with the idea that rex has had one of the top defenses in the league recently because it couldn't be more wrong. rex's vaunted defense has been mia for 4 years. what we've had here is kinda crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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