joewilly12 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Mariota burns Winston in the 40 http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2015/02/watch_marcus_mariota_burns_jameis_winston_in_the_4.html#incart_more_sports *Could not copy and paste the link and video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 The WR and RB talent in this draft is solid. Use FA to rebuild the defense where it's weak. I'd love it if we went Cooper in 1st and RB in the 2nd or 3rd. For sure...locking down two cornerstone pieces on offense with the first two picks would be ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony The Wiz Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 The WR and RB talent in this draft is solid. Use FA to rebuild the defense where it's weak. I'd love it if we went Cooper in 1st and RB in the 2nd or 3rd. Don't need RB in 2nd. Need a Cornerback at 2. Even if getting Cromartie still need another cornerback. Milner will get hurt again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Kevin White looks amazing. If he's there are 6 we have to take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Don't need RB in 2nd. Need a Cornerback at 2. Even if getting Cromartie still need another cornerback. Milner will get hurt again. No more drafting CBs are you nuts we have wasted so many draft picks on CBs throughout the years NO WAY IN HELL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Don't need RB in 2nd. Need a Cornerback at 2. Even if getting Cromartie still need another cornerback. Milner will get hurt again. No. No they don't. Miliner may get hurt again, but they still have McDougal, Walls, Williams. Sign a top tier CB and a mid level one and the CBs are fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 No more drafting CBs are you nuts we have wasted so many draft picks on CBs throughout the years NO WAY IN HELL Calm down. Not in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony The Wiz Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 No more drafting CBs are you nuts we have wasted so many draft picks on CBs throughout the years NO WAY IN HELLDraft the right one. Anyone heard of a CB named REVIS we drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Draft the right one. Anyone heard of a CB named REVIS we drafted. Last great one we drafted all the others sucked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony The Wiz Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Last great one we drafted all the others suckedI would of never drafted Milner since the guy never stays on the field. I wanted and stated I wanted Desmond Trufant but wanted to move down a little and get him and pick up a draft pick. So what does this same GM do the next year but draft Mcdougle who also was injured in college and again doesn't see the field. Is this GM still here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 this is the way the jets need to do it. we have some holes and we have a sh*t ton of cap space. we sign iupati, sign a receiver, sign a couple cb's and a free safety, we sign spiller. we draft bpa, not for need. if mariota falls to 6 and philly is willing we take foles and their 1st and their 2nd/3rd round pick. if the qb's are gone we take whichever receiver the raiders didn't take between cooper and white and then we try to get glennon or foles if philly traded up ahead of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 These times clearly solidify Cooper as the top Wr. I don't care if White ran a 4.2, Cooper is clearly the better player who's only question was his speed. He proved that today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I don't think so. Been evaluating for a long time. I may be wrong some of the times but not many. Anyone that knows me, that I am pretty good doing this. Do I think Cooper is a bad player? No I don't think that but I have a few receivers in my process better than him. Like I said in skill wise it is Beckham, Strong, Parker, and Smith are ahead of Cooper. I also like Lockett ahead of Cooper for what he could do in every aspect of the offense. Cooper and White have jumped over Hardy with their 40s and height. Hardy does have great hands but now we have to throw another receiver in the mix with Conley since he was a big prospect with Georgia at the beginning of the season. By the way no it all how many college game have you watched ad followed this year? Can you describe your process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Can you describe your process? You exactly wasted your time responding to that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 These times clearly solidify Cooper as the top Wr. I don't care if White ran a 4.2, Cooper is clearly the better player who's only question was his speed. He proved that today. if the jets take whoever of the 2 the raiders didn't take I'd be happy. that is unless mariota falls. in the case I'm hoping we can trade to philly for foles and some of their picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 if the jets take whoever of the 2 the raiders didn't take I'd be happy. that is unless mariota falls. in the case I'm hoping we can trade to philly for foles and some of their picks I'd be happy with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony The Wiz Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Can you describe your process?My process is watching the games. Remember Alabama is loaded with 5 star players so all your attention can't be focused on Cooper. Their TE is a top 10 talent which opens the door for Cooper. Is Cooper an average WR? No he isn't but in my opinion he is not the best. He is a late 1st round pick at about 25 to 28. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Mariotta reminds me of Alex Smith. I suspect you are looking at a similar career path too. He won't be good for awhile, but then will turn into a decent but not quite elite qb b/c he has such great intangibles. His arm and accuracy looked better than what he showed in college. Its ok. Winston reminds me of a slow Daunte Culpepper. Effortless throws with some mechanics problems but just a lot of talent. The ints come b/c of how easy it is for them and they;ll force it. I don't think hes going to be a complete bust, but he will lose a lot of games for teams but with the right wr can put up big yards. I dont think teams should spend top ten picks on qbs that aren't going to be a top ten qb in this league. Too much wasted time. None of the qbs this year are that player. Trade down or pick one of those awesome wrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Mariotta reminds me of Alex Smith. I suspect you are looking at a similar career path too. He won't be good for awhile, but then will turn into a decent but not quite elite qb b/c he has such great intangibles. His arm and accuracy looked better than what he showed in college. Its ok. Winston reminds me of a slow Daunte Culpepper. Effortless throws with some mechanics problems but just a lot of talent. The ints come b/c of how easy it is for them and they;ll force it. I don't think hes going to be a complete bust, but he will lose a lot of games for teams but with the right wr can put up big yards. I dont think teams should spend top ten picks on qbs that aren't going to be a top ten qb in this league. Too much wasted time. None of the qbs this year are that player. Trade down or pick one of those awesome wrs. I'm glad we don't have to make the call on Winston, because it sounds like he's a lock for #1. Mariota, I think, will be there at 6, which will be a tough call for Maccagnan. Too bad the draft isn't in NYC this year. It'd be a lot of fun to hear the crowd chanting "MARRY-ota," then booing when Maccagnan takes Scherff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony The Wiz Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Mariotta reminds me of Alex Smith. I suspect you are looking at a similar career path too. He won't be good for awhile, but then will turn into a decent but not quite elite qb b/c he has such great intangibles. His arm and accuracy looked better than what he showed in college. Its ok. Winston reminds me of a slow Daunte Culpepper. Effortless throws with some mechanics problems but just a lot of talent. The ints come b/c of how easy it is for them and they;ll force it. I don't think hes going to be a complete bust, but he will lose a lot of games for teams but with the right wr can put up big yards. I dont think teams should spend top ten picks on qbs that aren't going to be a top ten qb in this league. Too much wasted time. None of the qbs this year are that player. Trade down or pick one of those awesome wrs. The problem is you can't win without a good QB. Mariota is going to be good. When Kapernick came out nobody thought he was going to be that good. He has digressed but I think that is on his decision making. I see Mariota not letting that happen and is a lot more gifted than Kapernick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 No more drafting CBs are you nuts we have wasted so many draft picks on CBs throughout the years NO WAY IN HELL Lower your voice Ron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeeJet22 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 No more drafting CBs are you nuts we have wasted so many draft picks on CBs throughout the years NO WAY IN HELL I agree. Draft me a wr,olb, and a qb please!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Lower your voice Ron. Turn down your hearing aid it won't be so loud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 The problem is you can't win without a good QB. Mariota is going to be good. When Kapernick came out nobody thought he was going to be that good. He has digressed but I think that is on his decision making. I see Mariota not letting that happen and is a lot more gifted than Kapernick. My question is. Would you spend a number 6 on a young Culpepper or Alex Smith? Yea, your team probably significantly improves over Geno or Sanchez, but you don't quite get to the superbowl either and you have 10 more years of angst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Mariota and Winston won't be there at 6 time to move on guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 No. No they don't. Miliner may get hurt again, but they still have McDougal, Walls, Williams. Sign a top tier CB and a mid level one and the CBs are fine. McDougall, Walls, AND Williams? Hell, with that kind of secondary ain't nobody passing the ball on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterGreen Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Mariota and Winston won't be there at 6 time to move on guys Winston will not. Mariotta may still be there. All comes down to the Titans. If Mariotta or White/Cooper are not there the pick is Fowler or whomever is there between White and Cooper. The Titans are telling the league they like Mettenberger. I do not think at the 2 spot they need to be sneaky. Since The Bucs are taking shameless Jameis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Doesn't Tennessee have terrible O line problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 As of right now, this is the most likely scenario: 1. Bucs: Jameis Winston-- As long as he doesn't get arrested between now and the draft, it makes too much sense. Dude won the Combine, which was the final hurdle for him. 2. Titans: Leonard Williams-- Mariota could land here, but I'm not entirely sure that Whisenhunt wants to deal with another rookie. The Titans run defense was the most pitiful overall unit in the league last year. 3. Jaguars: Randy Gregory/Shane Ray--They're invested in Bortles, and Gus Bradley needs the pass rusher for his sh*tty defense. Jags floating that they'd want to trade out, but (assuming Fisher is serious about giving Bradford another chance), the next real QB-desperate team is Cleveland, who burned a first on Manziel last year and Farmer would be cutting his own throat doubling down, especially at the cost of his two firsts. Beyond that, it's Houston at 16. O'Brien is probably waiting on Hackenberg next year, though. After that, it's the Eagles and Chip Kelly. Can Bradley afford to drop all the way to 20? That team has to show improvement next year, they don't need Foles in any package, and the big edge rushers will all be off the board. 4. Raiders: Kevin White--Most natural fit ever. 5. Redskins: La'el Collins--If they're serious about giving RGIII another shot, maybe they copy the Cowboys model and just load up on OL? Either that or its best remaining edge rusher from Fowler/Ray/Gregory. 6. Jets: Marcus Mariota--If his arm was as putrid as I'd hoped today, the Jets would have the excuse they needed to pass on him, but everyone is reporting that it appeared ok enough. As much as I'd rather have Cooper or Fowler, I'd understand picking Mariota. The alternative is that the Jets are natural trade partners for the Eagles here. Maccagnan and Bowles have a solid 3-year honeymoon period coming to them, so dropping back to 20 in exchange for picks isn't an issue for them in the way that it'd be for Bradley and company in Jacksonville. Jets fans have zero expectation of winning in 2015, so Maccagnan could take a pass and reasonably survive. Even if Mariota works out in Philly, Chip Kelly is going to get all the credit, so it won't look like passing on Marino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I watch plenty of college football , keep on typing You know that's Tony Pauline right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsRay Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Raiders love speed guys, maybe that 40 time locks White into 4th overall. That is if McKenzie the Raiders GM didn't sleep through his performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I'm glad we don't have to make the call on Winston, because it sounds like he's a lock for #1. Mariota, I think, will be there at 6, which will be a tough call for Maccagnan. Too bad the draft isn't in NYC this year. It'd be a lot of fun to hear the crowd chanting "MARRY-ota," then booing when Maccagnan takes Scherff. Winston has been the best player in the draft since last year, Mariota's a fad who needs a year or two of seasoning. Scherff might not even be a top three tackle, dude is a guard. It'd be nice to have Winstonn or Mariota fall to us, but Shane Ray/Fowler, Kevin White or Amari Cooper are the types of talent the Jets need to start turning things around. Cooper reminds me of Watkins last year: heck of a player, might be the first WR off the board, but won't be the best in his class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Life Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 @LukeEasterling: Per @mikefreemanNFL, Jameis Winston's football IQ has been compared to Peyton Manning by multiple personnel executives at the #NFLCombine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 All my late round sleepers showed up so far, David Johnson, MyCole Pruitt, Wes Saxton... I thought Dezmin Lewis would run faster. Hopefully my prediction of TEN taking Mariota gets some heat, that would put us out of firing range to have to make that decision. The way this group looked, I think we can get Hardy/DGB later and take Shane Ray with the first. I hope we don't get baited into taking White. I'm counting the raiders to do their thing. 1st - Ray/Parker 2nd - DGB/Hardy 3rd - D Johnson 4th - T. Jones. One can dream.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterGreen Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Was anybody disappointed in the 40 times Devin Smith posted? I certainly was. Even Mayock expected him to run low 4.3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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