nico002 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 cant draft, doesn't address o line, puts together ancient slow roster, the guy hasn't done anything impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfine Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 OMG HOW COULD YOU PUT FITZ BACK IN Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I have to disagree. This team has talent. It's lacking major coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecca Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Mac gave into media/fan pressure to re-sign this b*tch Fitz. Mac signed Bowles over Quinn. Mac invested in a project QB with a 2nd round pick that can't even dress. I'm losing faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Personnel Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 All these penalties are bad coaching. We have talent on this roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Mac actually has the right idea. He tried to trade up to #1 to get a QB last year. He'll be able to do it this year . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, detectivekimble said: Mac actually has the right idea. He tried to trade up to #1 to get a QB last year. He'll be able to do it this year . . . We will have the #1 draft pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Just now, joewilly12 said: We will have the #1 draft pick They'll f*ck that up too. They'll end up beating Cleveland and Miami and settle in around 7-10 then draft another d lineman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Just now, joewilly12 said: We will have the #1 draft pick No, these are the Jets. They'll do something stupid like beat Cleveland and just miss out on the QB. This team needs to blow it up and get back-to-back #1 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusionCA Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 3 hours ago, Mecca said: Mac gave into media/fan pressure to re-sign this b*tch Fitz. Mac signed Bowles over Quinn. Mac invested in a project QB with a 2nd round pick that can't even dress. I'm losing faith. Mac didn't sign Bowles. Bowles was signed a few days before Mac was signed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powpow Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 4 hours ago, Ghost said: I have to disagree. This team has talent. It's lacking major coaching. Mac had talent coming into the job. He made a few good moves but overall wasted a ton of good money on aging, underperforming vets and has made horrible draft decisions that are becoming Idziotlike. This team is so unbalanced it's pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 This team looks worse than it is. Signing Mo and Sixpatrick are Mac's only two major missteps. Geno could have gotten us to 1-5 or better and we'd have saved all that $. Mac caved here IMHO. *Fans at this site and others pointed to his career stats before signing Sixpatrick. He NEVER beats good teams. Why didn't Mac know this as well? *Richardson is playing out of position a good deal of the time. The Mo $ would have been better spent on a serviceable #2 CB so that Skrine wouldn't be in that role and playing out of position. Most other Mac complaints are overstated IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 43 minutes ago, LIJetsFan said: This team looks worse than it is. Signing Mo and Sixpatrick are Mac's only two major missteps. Geno could have gotten us to 1-5 or better and we'd have saved all that $. Mac caves here IMHO. *Fans at this site and others pointed to his career stats before Sixpatrick. He NEVER beats good teams. Why didn't Mac know this as well? *Richardson is playing out of position a good deal of the time. The Mo $ would have been better spent on a serviceable #2 CB so that Skrine wouldn't be in that role and playing out of position. Most other Mac complaints are overstated IMHO. Overstated? This is now a 4/3 team with 4 DT's starting. No speed rusher at all. The LB's are 3/4 LB without an edge rusher. No FB. No power runner. The whole roster is a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 7 minutes ago, Jetdawgg said: Overstated? This is now a 4/3 team with 4 DT's starting. No speed rusher at all. The LB's are 3/4 LB without an edge rusher. No FB. No power runner. The whole roster is a disaster. IMHO we should remain a 3-4 D and use the extra DT in a rotation to keep the whole line fresh(er). That solves the LB issue as well. Once again this is all on Bowles, not Mac. Regarding the FB, yeah that is a head scratcher in light of our lack of a power runner. I presume that it was felt that Forte couldn't run it up the middle even with a FB. I can believe it. The late loss of Kery Robinson really screwed us. Mac gambled and lost on his leg fx recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 10 minutes ago, LIJetsFan said: IMHO we should remain a 3-4 D and use the extra DT in a rotation to keep the whole line fresh(er). That solves the LB issue as well. Once again this is all on Bowles, not Mac. Regarding the FB, yeah that is a head scratcher in light of our lack of a power runner. I presume that it was felt that Forte couldn't run it up the middle even with a FB. I can believe it. The late loss of Kery Robinson really screwed us. Mac gambled and lost on his leg fx recovery. Still no speed rusher and the DT's are high, well paid draft picks. Some of the other DT's are well paid FA pick ups. That is on the GM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Mac has done an excellent job here as GM. The team is vastly underperforming due to coaching, QB, and CB issues. The Jets need to find a QB and Maccagnan looks to be dead set on doing so. We will take a QB again next year and again and again until we find one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I'm starting to back away from my thoughts that Mac has been excellent, but I still think he's done a good job with some low cost pickups and not screwing up the cap. Bowles is clearly no good as a coach. Who knows, maybe in 2,3,4 years he becomes a good coach, but I have real doubts about that. The roster isn't perfect, but Bowles really finds a way to get as little as possible out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, BigRy56 said: Mac has done an excellent job here as GM. The team is vastly underperforming due to coaching, QB, and CB issues. The Jets need to find a QB and Maccagnan looks to be dead set on doing so. We will take a QB again next year and again and again until we find one. I don't understand why Macc gets a free pass in this mess. The Wilkerson contract makes Tannenbaum look smart and it's going to be an albatross for years. Revis got way too much $. Mauldin / Jenkins look like Jags and not even as good as the guys they replaced. Harris is overpaid. Gilchrist is invisible, Skrine can't cover anyone and is totally lost We have street FA's playing ahead of our 5th rd CB 4 QBs on a roster with gaping holes and the OL has been ignored for 2 consecutive off-seasons. what exactly am i supposed to be impressed by? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, LionelRichie said: I don't understand why Macc gets a free pass in this mess. The Wilkerson contract makes Tannenbaum look smart and it's going to be an albatross for years. Revis got way too much $. Mauldin / Jenkins look like Jags and not even as good as the guys they replaced. Harris is overpaid. Gilchrist is invisible, Skrine can't cover anyone and is totally lost We have street FA's playing ahead of our 5th rd CB 4 QBs on a roster with gaping holes and the OL has been ignored for 2 consecutive off-seasons. what exactly am i supposed to be impressed by? So, I have a feeling you aren't exactly dancing on the ceiling over Mac's moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 It isn't Mac he's looking for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Mac "Truly" sucks then? I could do this "All Night Long". Ok, it's daytime, maybe not. Say Mac, Say Sucks. Ok, really, done now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 8 minutes ago, LionelRichie said: I don't understand why Macc gets a free pass in this mess. The Wilkerson contract makes Tannenbaum look smart and it's going to be an albatross for years. Revis got way too much $. Mauldin / Jenkins look like Jags and not even as good as the guys they replaced. Harris is overpaid. Gilchrist is invisible, Skrine can't cover anyone and is totally lost We have street FA's playing ahead of our 5th rd CB 4 QBs on a roster with gaping holes and the OL has been ignored for 2 consecutive off-seasons. what exactly am i supposed to be impressed by? 1. Fans and media wanted him to sign Wilkerson and reward him 2. No one complained at the time 3. Mauldin and Jenkins are good depth and young players 4 Harris was overpaid before Macc came here 5. Skrine is a slot corner. Gilchrist I will give you 6 The fact that a street FA is playing well should be in Macc's favor 7. Roster didnt have gaping holes last year and it was basically the same 8 OL has not been ignored. They drafted OL in two straight years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 8 hours ago, Mecca said: Mac gave into media/fan pressure to re-sign this b*tch Fitz. Mac signed Bowles over Quinn. Mac invested in a project QB with a 2nd round pick that can't even dress. I'm losing faith. Bowles was on board when Mac was hired. They just pressured Mac to rubber stamp it the day he came in. And since he wanted the job he was agreeble. He may even have liked Bowles. I doubt Bowles was the specific guy he wanted, though. Bowles was Casserly and Wolf's guy. And they pulled Woody's strings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 8 hours ago, Ghost said: I have to disagree. This team has talent. It's lacking major coaching. Besides the defensive line, which is the most underachieving unit in professional sports, what or personnel grouping has above average talent? Maybe the WRs. That's it. Running backs are average, offensive line is below average, tight ends are LOL. On defense the linebackers are so bad that they actually missed Harris last night and Sheldon Richardson is seen as a viable alternative. The corners are not good. They were and have been exposed. And the safeties are middling players. Nick Folk is probably above average. We can always hang our hat on that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Oh. And this roster construction and management is laugh out loud funny. Like embarrassingly funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 This team looks worse than it is. Signing Mo and Sixpatrick are Mac's only two major missteps. Geno could have gotten us to 1-5 or better and we'd have saved all that $. Mac caved here IMHO. *Fans at this site and others pointed to his career stats before signing Sixpatrick. He NEVER beats good teams. Why didn't Mac know this as well? *Richardson is playing out of position a good deal of the time. The Mo $ would have been better spent on a serviceable #2 CB so that Skrine wouldn't be in that role and playing out of position. Most other Mac complaints are overstated IMHO. I think signing Wilkerson was the right move, we all know he is not as good as Richardson but he is certainly less of a liability and my gut says Richardson is going to hold out for suh money or more. Signing fitz was probably not something he wanted to do as much as he needed to, after the season fitz had with us last year could you imagine the reaction he would have gotten from the media and fan base if geno was at the helm and we were 1 and 6? Corners were the one thing I believe he did poorly this off-season because I don't think it takes a genius to look at our roster going into the season and say gee we are screwed if revis gets hurt or underpreforms. Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I like what Macs done overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 One of the biggest disappointments is that we've somehow made RIchardson a liability (not sure if it's Macc or Bowles but regardless). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 QB is the main issue, but after last year they thought they was getting the 31 TD Fitz's, not the 31INT Fitz. It's Bowles I have more of an issue with. He's D is aweful. Worst in the NFL. Not playing Mauldin he's playing Sheldon at OLB, and 4 DT's in the front 4 is just stupid. He's got to go I can't see him getting a 3rd year now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 9 hours ago, Mecca said: Mac gave into media/fan pressure to re-sign this b*tch Fitz. Mac signed Bowles over Quinn. Mac invested in a project QB with a 2nd round pick that can't even dress. I'm losing faith. You are losing faith with the wrong information. While I cannot prove he gave in to media pressure, he has a boss too that may have told him to sign him. And he did not sign Bowles. Bowles was hired prior to Mac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergenjets Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 If Macc didn't resign Mo and the team was 1-5, it would be on Macc for not resigning Mo. Fans would be outraged, EVERBODY wanted Mo signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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