Doggin94it Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Here's my guarantee: One of the QBs selected in this year's draft will go on to be a stud. The Jets will pass on him at 6. And at this point next year, just about everyone on the forum will be bitching about how the Jets were stupid to do that. So let's go on record. Assuming the Jets will not be tanking the season for Darnold or Rosen (which, btw, is a mistake, but let's assume they make it), what do you want the Jets to do at 6 if all the QBs are on the board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Happy to go on record my friend. No QB with the #1 Pick. Jets Starting QB in 2017 is Petty. The #2 in Hackenberg till he unseats Petty via quality of play. The #3 will be a mid-round QB in this coming draft. No #1 pick QB. No expensive FA signing QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Watson checks every box, and if he's there at 6, he should absolutely be the pick. Anyone clucking about his mechanics or arm talent or Dabo Swinney's system is a virgin who uses the word "tape" to describe Youtube highlights set to Disturbed songs. Kizer and (especially) Trubisky haven't started anywhere near enough games for me to feel good about them before 39, and neither will be available then. Sounds like Kizer's kind of a headcase anyway. I don't have a ton of interest in another 2nd-round project with hands like a leprechaun, but Mahomes has enough production and experience that I guess I wouldn't cry over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Watson checks every box, and if he's there at 6, he should absolutely be the pick. Anyone clucking about his mechanics or arm talent or Dabo Swinney's system is a virgin who uses the word "tape" to describe Youtube highlights set to Disturbed songs. Kizer and (especially) Trubisky haven't started anywhere near enough games for me to feel good about them before 39, and neither will be available then. Sounds like Kizer's kind of a headcase anyway. I don't have a ton of interest in another 2nd-round project with hands like a leprechaun, but Mahomes has enough production and experience that I guess I wouldn't cry over it. For the record, didn't you also feel this way about Lynch last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 19 minutes ago, Doggin94it said: Here's my guarantee: One of the QBs selected in this year's draft will go on to be a stud. The Jets will pass on him at 6. And at this point next year, just about everyone on the forum will be bitching about how the Jets were stupid to do that. So let's go on record. Assuming the Jets will not be tanking the season for Darnold or Rosen (which, btw, is a mistake, but let's assume they make it), what do you want the Jets to do at 6 if all the QBs are on the board? Draft Trubisky and throw him, Petty, Hack and a veteran out there . I prefer to sign a player like McCown as the veteran . Mitchell Trubisky is going to be a star in the NFL . So is Deshaun Watson by the way . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Of all the QBs in this draft, I like Mahomes and Watson. Especially Mahomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 21 minutes ago, Doggin94it said: Here's my guarantee: One of the QBs selected in this year's draft will go on to be a stud The Giants will draft him. Book it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, Warfish said: Happy to go on record my friend. No QB with the #1 Pick. Jets Starting QB in 2017 is Petty. The #2 in Hackenberg till he unseats Petty via quality of play. The #3 will be a mid-round QB in this coming draft. No #1 pick QB. No expensive FA signing QB. I hope they don't draft a QB at all. Cheap vet or UDFA at #3. Sink or swim with Mac's picks and see where they stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Watson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 i'm going neither because that presumes the 6 pick can be traded down. the jets have used a fairly high draft pick on a qb in 3 of the last 4 drafts. they should probably draft another qb this draft but at some point you gotta dance with the person you brought to the dance. hack should be the qb to open things up assuming petty is still recovering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 22 minutes ago, slats said: I hope they don't draft a QB at all. Cheap vet or UDFA at #3. Sink or swim with Mac's picks and see where they stand. That's my preferred approach, too. With Watson as the only QB I'd kind of be ok with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 37 minutes ago, NoBowles said: For the record, didn't you also feel this way about Lynch last year? Feel what way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 13 minutes ago, Doggin94it said: That's my preferred approach, too. With Watson as the only QB I'd kind of be ok with. Same. Or if they did execute the trade down and drafted Watson later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Feel what way? That Lynch checked all the boxes and absolutely should be the Jets pick last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 49 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Watson checks every box, and if he's there at 6, he should absolutely be the pick. Anyone clucking about his mechanics or arm talent or Dabo Swinney's system is a virgin who uses the word "tape" to describe Youtube highlights set to Disturbed songs. Kizer and (especially) Trubisky haven't started anywhere near enough games for me to feel good about them before 39, and neither will be available then. Sounds like Kizer's kind of a headcase anyway. I don't have a ton of interest in another 2nd-round project with hands like a leprechaun, but Mahomes has enough production and experience that I guess I wouldn't cry over it. accuracy and ball placement don't have you even a little leery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 hour ago, slats said: I hope they don't draft a QB at all. Cheap vet or UDFA at #3. Sink or swim with Mac's picks and see where they stand. I reject the "Cheap vet" option completely. Because the so-called "cheap vet" seems to always prove too much temptation to a (bad) Head Coach trying to save his own ass. Playing Hoyer for half the year serves us no purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Watson. I like Mahomes also, one year starters scare me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, Warfish said: I reject the "Cheap vet" option completely. Because the so-called "cheap vet" seems to always prove too much temptation to a (bad) Head Coach trying to save his own ass. Playing Hoyer for half the year serves us no purpose. Like I said, I want them to sink or swim with Hack and Petty. The cheap vet would be an emergency #3 in that scenario. I understand what you're saying, but it shouldn't happen. More importantly, I don't want another midround QB. If they don't take a QB at #6 overall -effectively meaning that they've already given up on Hackenberg- then I don't want them wasting another mid-round pick on another longshot. Fill one of their 22 other needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Watson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 DeShaun Watson is a Rich Mans Tyrod Taylor. Yippee. Mitch Trubisky is a Poor Mans Andy Dalton. Kizer would be a 6th Rounder is he played anywhere else. Mahomes is another Air Raid Product. All of their careers will happen in obscurity and in the shadows cast by the Great Light that is Sam Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: accuracy and ball placement don't have you even a little leery? He completed more than 67% of his passes in every season. I have no idea what "ball placement" means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 hour ago, NoBowles said: That Lynch checked all the boxes and absolutely should be the Jets pick last year. That's not how I remember it, but I wouldn't have had a problem taking him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I'm pretty sure you know where I stand, either get it done, or go to battle with Hack, and Petty no Vet QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 13 minutes ago, dbatesman said: I have no idea what "ball placement" means. OH IT'S LIKE THAT IS IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, T0mShane said: OH IT'S LIKE THAT IS IT I don't mean to be glib, or sandbag you or anything. I mean, I understand what the phrase means, and I understand what it means as applied to Watson (Waldman wrote a piece about this a while back). But I'm not going to sit here and pretend I can speak about it with any kind of credibility or authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Doggin94it said: That's my preferred approach, too. With Watson as the only QB I'd kind of be ok with. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Watson would be my choice I guess even though I'm a bit worried about the transition from the spread. He does check most of the boxes though which is all you can ask for at this point. Hell no to Kizer or Trubisky. If Watson isnt there at 6 I'd probably go best pass rusher or OJ Howard who's pretty much guaranteed to be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Glennon and a non-QB draft.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 If I absolutely had to pick a Qb it would probably be Watson. But I don't even think that would be good value with our 2nd round pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I want Petty, Hack, and someone like Liufau to fight it out in a real QB competition that does not get decided until the 4th preseason game...all with equal opportunity and snaps to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 4 hours ago, Doggin94it said: Here's my guarantee: One of the QBs selected in this year's draft will go on to be a stud. The Jets will pass on him at 6. And at this point next year, just about everyone on the forum will be bitching about how the Jets were stupid to do that. So let's go on record. Assuming the Jets will not be tanking the season for Darnold or Rosen (which, btw, is a mistake, but let's assume they make it), what do you want the Jets to do at 6 if all the QBs are on the board? If so, it won't be one of the four QBs in the above poll. That's my guarantee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 4 hours ago, dbatesman said: Watson checks every box, and if he's there at 6, he should absolutely be the pick. Anyone clucking about his mechanics or arm talent or Dabo Swinney's system is a virgin who uses the word "tape" to describe Youtube highlights set to Disturbed songs. Kizer and (especially) Trubisky haven't started anywhere near enough games for me to feel good about them before 39, and neither will be available then. Sounds like Kizer's kind of a headcase anyway. I don't have a ton of interest in another 2nd-round project with hands like a leprechaun, but Mahomes has enough production and experience that I guess I wouldn't cry over it. Repped for the bold alone... real life lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 We will not draft a QB this draft, if we do we will be cutting petty. We will for sure get some jag vet. I am just hoping he is cheap. I highly fear getting Glennon due to price and term. If I had to pick a qb to take it would be Watson followed by Trubisky. I am still totally bewildered by all the Mahommes love. His arm looked no better than any of the others at the combine and he was not accurate. He still looks like he is throwing a javelin on any long pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Kizer - has the physical tools, played in a pro style offense and has nice accuracy on deep throws. I'm troubled by his long delivery and inaccurate throws to short and intermediate routes Watson - probably the best of the Qb's but I would only take him if he fell to 38 Trubisky- very talented, played shotgun spread offense, I think he looks like Dalton to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 On the record, the only QB in this class I like is Watson but not anymore than I like the chance to draft a qb next year. So we start Petty until we start Hack. If they fail we get a shot at the qb next year, if either succeeds then thatd be pretty wild. Petty has a better chance to succeed than Hack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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