Pac Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, dbatesman said: a 7th rounder for Fitz to backup Geno and a 5th rounder for a #1 WR that had an excellent season. What's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, dbatesman said: The only problem is that Fitz wasn’t brought in to be the starter. IK forced it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, Pac said: a 7th rounder for Fitz to backup Geno and a 5th rounder for a #1 WR that had an excellent season. What's your point? I didn’t realize some draft picks dont count....Pac, thank’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Macaggnan would never do the thing. What about that time he did the thing? That was different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 27 minutes ago, Pac said: Watching Bortles throwing bricks all over the place makes me think Smith will wind up in J-Ville. Perfect fit for them. Eli will be their first option. Eli is no bargain though with his salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Can't throw into the MetLife wind...pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said: Eli will be their first option. Eli is no bargain though with his salary. Tom Coughlin will lure Eli who will restructure just to get the hell out of NY his days are numbered here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Tom Coughlin will lure Eli who will restructure just to get the hell out of NY his days are numbered here. Think so. Giants will love to have all that Eli wasted cap space to spend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 comon cleavland make this move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 2 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Alex Smith didn't lose that game yesterday, Andy Reid did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Smith being available to trade has no bearing on the Jets. 1) I highly doubt that the Jets have any interest. Everything coming out of 1 Jets drive points at drafting a QB in the 1st and doing everything in their power to move up. Even if they did trade for him it would be because they couldn’t resign McCown and need a vet to groom out 1st round QB. 2) The chiefs are not trading him to their hated division rivals. So get the idea of him going to Denver in a trade out of your mind. If you’re counting on Smith to Den so Den doesn’t take a QB ahead of us....fuggetabouta. 3) Even if the Browns do trade for him, they’ll still go QB at 1/1. Smith isn’t the answer for them and neither is Kizer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge4Tide Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I'd only trade for Smith if Kansas City threw in Darrelle Revis I dunno, typing that just made me laugh, so I went with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Jetsplayer21 said: If they don’t need their excess draft picks, why not just trade a bunch of their bottom picks for just another valued 2nd rounder ? They are more than a yr away, probably 2. By then Alex Smith will be 36. They don’t want him. Smith only value is to a win now team. Because they can grade the rest of their team competently knowing what to spend their resources on in the offseason. It's much harder to know if you have decent players with a rookie playing too early and making mistakes. It also opens them up to trading the top pick and selecting Mayfield or Allen (both of whom they have showed interest in) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouPlay2Win Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 it’s evident that the alex smiths, tyrod taylor of the world aren’t getting you far Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, YouPlay2Win said: it’s evident that the alex smiths, tyrod taylor of the world aren’t getting you far Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Or Ryan Fitzpatrick's,Josh McCown's,Bryce Petty's,Christian Hackenberg's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 13 minutes ago, Mogglez said: I'll be honest I think not having Kelce destroyed their chances more than Alex Smith's play. Play calling became suspect at best in the 2nd half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Or Ryan Fitzpatrick's,Josh McCown's,Bryce Petty's,Christian Hackenberg's. That’s not true. Bryce Petty and Christian Hackenberg definitely get you somewhere. 1st pick overall ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Patriot Killa said: In an odd turn of events I think it will and then they gain flexibility to pick a QB #4 and still have picks from the #1 pick’s deal. That’s ideal If Smith is traded there on March 14th and the I think the Broncos and Jets will offer the most depending on who loses out on Cousins. Cleveland may not trade it but if they like Allen and Mayfield maybe taking them at 4 and letting them grow for a year or two plus a haul for #1 is worth it for them. I'd take Darnold if I'm the Browns but ya never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: I'll be honest I think not having Kelce destroyed their chances more than Alex Smith's play. Play calling became suspect at best in the 2nd half. It all plays into it because Alex Smith can't look anything more than disastrously average without freak talent at TE (Kelce), RB (Hunt), and WR (Hill). He lost one of those things with a 21-3 lead and came crashing back down to Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pajet Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 3 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Better than McCown,Petty,Hackenberg. True still do not want. He might be good enough to make the playoffs, but not good enough to win once he gets there. If KC is dumping him to go with a young gun, why should we want him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mogglez said: It all plays into it because Alex Smith can't look anything more than disastrously average without freak talent at TE (Kelce), RB (Hunt), and WR (Hill). He lost one of those things with a 21-3 lead and came crashing back down to Earth. But he has shown the ability to throw the ball deep to Hill, why not call plays like that? Reid kept everything close to the LoS and wanted his defense to hold the lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pajet Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 3 hours ago, dbatesman said: Good enough to make sure no one gets fired, not good enough to win anything. I fully expect us to give up both of our second rounders for him. unfortunately probably true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pajet Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 3 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Alex Smith didn't lose that game yesterday, Andy Reid did. Didn't watch the game so couldn't say. I can say living in Philly and seeing Reid up close he is a good regular season coach, but not a great playoff coach. Still he has an eye for talent and if he doesn't think Smith can get it done, I'll take his opinion over mac/bowles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pajet Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 3 hours ago, greenwave81 said: The only thing I'd say about that is if you didn't extend his deal when traded for, he's only got one year left on his contract which gives you a lot of flexibility going forward. If you sign Cousins to a multi yr $100+ mill contract and it goes sour that can have cap implications for a long time. So were going to trade a pick for a one year rental of a mediocre QB....no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pajet Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 44 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said: That’s not true. Bryce Petty and Christian Hackenberg definitely get you somewhere. 1st pick overall ?? well, they should have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I take Smith in a heart beat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 We are picking 6th, we have 2 extra 2nd rounders, in a stacked QB draft, and we are stroking over a 34 year old Chad clone. SOJ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, BurnleyJet said: We are picking 6th, we have 2 extra 2nd rounders, in a stacked QB draft, and we are stroking over a 34 year old Chad clone. SOJ! A few are stroking I'm not I'm just looking at the lesser of evils..I want McCown,Petty,Hackenberg gone ANYONE but them and knowing Macc and Bowles like old re-treads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulyjet Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 No thanks. Draft a qb at 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetmech Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Good enough to make sure no one gets fired, not good enough to win anything. I fully expect us to give up both of our second rounders for him.I wouldn't mind him if the Jets draft a QB but don't see both happening considering they need the 2nd rounders to move up so in Jets fashion they will trade them for Smith and no top QB...Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 4 hours ago, adb280z said: Why? Cousins is younger and better. I guess we'll agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 4 hours ago, Jetscode1 said: Jets should pass. On Cousins... Yes, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, paulyjet said: No thanks. Draft a qb at 6. As long as it's Mayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwave81 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, paulyjet said: No thanks. Draft a qb at 6. The two options, trading a low DP (5th or less, otherwise screw it) for Smith and drafting a QB at 6 are not mutually exclusive....especially if we STAY at 6 (which might be wise rather than giving up a lot of this draft and next with all the holes we have to fill) and draft someone that might need a year. Some of us think that it would be unwise to 'trade the farm' for Darnold and/or Rosen (but would take either if they fell to us) and say getting Smith and Allen at 6 might not be so bad. It's a damn sight better than McCown at least IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwave81 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 11 minutes ago, Jetmech said: I wouldn't mind him if the Jets draft a QB but don't see both happening considering they need the 2nd rounders to move up so in Jets fashion they will trade them for Smith and no top QB... Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk Trading a 2nd rd DP in our position especially for 1 yr of Alex Smith would be criminal and unwise...anyone trading a 2nd rd DP for Smith is gonna extend him for a few years as a viable option as a starter. This I would not be a fan of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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