Philc1 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 The bills have a great defensive line so far Oliver is so much better than QW it’s not even funny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, shuler82 said: Guy hasn't played all preseason and we were up against a good defense. If it continues, by all means, let's pile on. I'm willing to give him a week 1 pass though. Yes. With zero preseason snaps, I would give it 1 more game. It also showed badly, how this group did not play together at all preseason. Lets see what develops. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 2 hours ago, jeremy2020 said: Remember all the cheering when Douglas "convinced" him to un-retire? AHAHAHahahha I told everyone then he was shot. I saw him every week he played the last few years for the Panthers. When everybody here was celebrating Douglas signining him, @joewilly12 pulled up a post from back in APRIL in which I said “stay away” because he was looking for a laugh. How’s that looking now, Joe? I warned you about him, buddy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Ken Shroy said: Yes. With zero preseason snaps,I would give it 1 more game. It also showed badly, how this group did not play together at all preseason. Lets see what develops. He's done. It's reckless to risk Sam's health by playing him again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Jet hustle said: He had a brutal game. If it done pick up, bench him permanently after our Bi week What about after the gay week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Just now, PS17 said: What about after the gay week? That’s every week in the jets season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: He's done. It's reckless to risk Sam's health by playing him again. Play Harrison 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 57 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: He's done. It's reckless to risk Sam's health by playing him again. Sure, ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, Ken Shroy said: Sure, ok. Please point out where he played well for Carolina in the last season and half or today. Either one. You work on it and get back to me. ..or is your intellectual capacity limited to "Sure, ok." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Benched? I just re-watched some game film he needs to be cut. There has to be some young kid out there bigger-faster-stronger who can snap the ball. Kalil is done put a fork in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, kdels62 said: Anything to deflect blame from Sam. Darnold hating trolls like you are unreal. The OL was a crapshow the entire game, yet all you want to do is bash Darnold who was not really that bad at all. Kalil was especially horrible. Darnold will be fine. Go away, it's like we lose and all the Darnold hating trolls scurry out like roaches to threadcrap every topic and continuously bate and inflame the fan base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Yep between the kicker thing and this I’m doubting Douglass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, johnnysd said: Darnold hating trolls like you are unreal. The OL was a crapshow the entire game, yet all you want to do is bash Darnold who was not really that bad at all. Kalil was especially horrible. Darnold will be fine. Go away, it's like we lose and all the Darnold hating trolls scurry out like roaches to threadcrap every topic and continuously bate and inflame the fan base. I’m not bashing Darnold. I think he’ll be fine, even though he had a very meh game. He showed some bad habits today, he missed the shots he took, it’s game 1. I’m not sure he’s a franchise QB yet and after today I still don’t know if he’ll develop into one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, kdels62 said: What if they only scored 1 TD because Sam played pretty bad? He underthrew a wide open Robby twice. He overthrew him once. He got 6 passes blocked at the line. The OL isn’t good. It wasn’t as terrible as people act like it was, especially in the 2nd half. SMH Talking to you is like talking to the wall .....hello wall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Untouchable said: He was a turd today. Has done absolutely nothing so far to unseat Harrison. But they aren’t benching him making $8 million. Could turn out to be the first sh*t move on Douglas’ resume. No no the first shyt move was cutting Bertolet for Veddick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 With no push in the run game I wondered this myself. Is Kalil horrible? Or just rusty and in a learning process? I guess we will know for sure after a few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, Wonderboy said: SMH Talking to you is like talking to the wall .....hello wall Your arguments are super compelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 4 hours ago, usapaw said: No argument, he su*ked and Douglas is not looking like the hero many claimed him to be. Terrible signing. Lmao EVERYONE praised the signing when it happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 6 hours ago, kdels62 said: It’s 1 game and he got better as the day went on. Actually he didn't. he got tired as the game went on, had a bad snap in the 4th quarter, and just looked like a confused old man. We have a player sitting on the bench who played great last 4 games last year, and IMO won the starting job this pre season. Either they give the better player the start, and it's not even close Harrison was better all pre season, or Gase, like the bum before him, is a BS artist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, flgreen said: Actually he didn't. he got tired as the game went on, had a bad snap in the 4th quarter, and just looked like a confused old man. We have a player sitting on the bench who played great last 4 games last year, and IMO won the starting job this pre season. Either they give the better player the start, and it's not even close Harrison was better all pre season, or Gase, like the bum before him, is a BS artist Jonothann Harrison wouldn't have changed this game outcome that dude also stinks He wasn't better no one really believes that ...but you maybe and mrs harrison everyone who wants to talk about the OL is neglecting the QB left alot of throws on the field today For example what was 14 was looking at on that last drive ? if a guy needs 4 seconds to make any kind of play it's not really Franchise time. that's some Mark Sanchez stuff 68% but everything was checkdown for 170 yards? obviously the kicker was the actual reason they lost but step up and make a play offense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 5 hours ago, kdels62 said: Anything to deflect blame from Sam. That's just not fair. Gase's O is a 3 step drop, and bang, get the ball short in the middle of the field, and get some after catch yardage. That's the O he runs. Today DL were beating Darnold to the 3 step mark. Both Kalil , and Winters were very bad. The #1 O didn't have that problem in pre-season. They looked good. Give the jobs to the kids who won them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRJETS Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, bitonti said: Jonothann Harrison wouldn't have changed this game outcome that dude also stinks He wasn't better no one really believes that ...but you maybe and mrs harrison everyone who wants to talk about the OL is neglecting the QB left alot of throws on the field today For example what was 14 was looking at on that last drive ? if a guy needs 4 seconds to make any kind of play it's not really Franchise time. that's some Mark Sanchez stuff 68% but everything was checkdown for 170 yards? obviously the kicker was the actual reason they lost but step up and make a play offense Tell that to one of the best at getting rid of the ball Aaron Rodgers who happened to be under constant pressure against the Bears and put up putrid numbers but his team defense played 60 minutes and won the game. Sam will be alright, even with all the pressure he did not turn the ball over or close to turn it over like he did last year. He is progressing and he will not play a top defense every single week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, bitonti said: Jonothann Harrison wouldn't have changed this game outcome that dude also stinks He wasn't better no one really believes that ...but you maybe and mrs harrison everyone who wants to talk about the OL is neglecting the QB left alot of throws on the field today For example what was 14 was looking at on that last drive ? if a guy needs 4 seconds to make any kind of play it's not really Franchise time. that's some Mark Sanchez stuff 68% but everything was checkdown for 170 yards? obviously the kicker was the actual reason they lost but step up and make a play offense Bit I honestly have to strongly disagree with you. If you just want to be a jerk and say "no one really believes that ...but you maybe and mrs harrison" and play Mr cool. OK, I misjudged who you are. I thought you were worth while talking to. I was wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, DRJETS said: He is progressing and he will not play a top defense every single week. they are the 2019 Bills not the 1986 Bears. Good defense, not top. He's regressing... checking down to Bell instead of stepping up and dropping dimes there's something called a sophomore slump it's what usually happens. 2 minutes ago, flgreen said: Bit I honestly have to strongly disagree with you. If you just want to be a jerk and say "no one really believes that ...but you maybe and mrs harrison" and play Mr cool. OK, I misjudged who you are. I thought you were worth while talking to. I was wrong what are you strongly disagreeing based on? Harrison's awesome play for that one month when the season was over? or when preaseson when no one was trying? Everyone knows Kalil is better than Harrison. Even a 70% retired Kalil is better than the backup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, flgreen said: The #1 O didn't have that problem in pre-season. They looked good. Give the jobs to the kids who won them ROFL, the pre-season when the defense doesn't gameplan for the O? Well, maybe defenses going forward will decide not to gameplan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 3 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Benched? I just re-watched some game film he needs to be cut. There has to be some young kid out there bigger-faster-stronger who can snap the ball. Kalil is done put a fork in him. AH HA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Harrison has never, not once ever in any game, played “well”. There’s a reason why we were forced to lure Kalil out of retirement. Hopefully he (Kalil) shakes the rust off and plays better, as that’s our best case scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJF71 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 5 hours ago, Philc1 said: The bills have a great defensive line so far Oliver is so much better than QW it’s not even funny So is Josh Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Ghost420 said: Lmao EVERYONE praised the signing when it happened. Not me. Ask @joewilly12 I said he was done back in April when someone brought up his name, and I said it again this summer when you guys were praising Douglas and Kalil for "coming back for the love of USC and Sam" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRJETS Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 27 minutes ago, bitonti said: they are the 2019 Bills not the 1986 Bears. Good defense, not top. He's regressing... checking down to Bell instead of stepping up and dropping dimes there's something called a sophomore slump it's what usually happens. When you had almost entire game the edge rusher going unblocked how is he going to wait for the play to develop and throw down the field? Just like Rodgers did against the Bears dinking and dunking protecting the ball. I blame Gase the most for not adapting calling for Darnold to move out of the pocket where he is more comfortable or RB screen to keep them honest. Did you watched the game where he needed to get rid of the ball in 3 second or less just as soon he was getting a rusher in his face. Last year under this same exact scenario it would has been multiple picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Love the smell of JN after a loss in the morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 9 hours ago, DRJETS said: I blame Gase the most for not adapting calling for Darnold to move out of the pocket where he is more comfortable or RB screen to keep them honest. Did you watched the game where he needed to get rid of the ball in 3 second or less just as soon he was getting a rusher in his face. Last year under this same exact scenario it would has been multiple picks. I also blame Gase for being an offensive dunce. Jeremy Bates was ranked higher as an OC last year, now we see why. The play calling has zero creativity, the jet sweep motioning rb/wr behind the QB bs is what people thought was innovative 10 years ago I did by the way rewatch the entire condensed game last night counting 1 one thousand 2 one thousand 3 one thousand there were at least 3 times where Sam couldn't get to 3 one thousand and that is one the line but the pressure got in his head and by the end he was airmailing balls into zone coverage with no rush also receivers nearby. He looked rattled. And let me repeat I blame Gase for all this, he's supposed to be the QB guru, he's supposed to be some sort of genius, the guy is a scared NFL has-been about to get fired from his last chance at being a HC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Retire Kalil today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, bitonti said: I did by the way rewatch the entire condensed game last night counting 1 one thousand 2 one thousand 3 one thousand there were at least 3 times where Sam couldn't get to 3 one thousand and that is one the line but the pressure got in his head and by the end he was airmailing balls into zone coverage with no rush also receivers nearby. He looked rattled. which is why sam was throwing off his back foot. still as young as the rookie qbs and clearly didn't trust his line. like it or not darnold seems to be much better with herndon playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Augustiniak said: which is why sam was throwing off his back foot. still as young as the rookie qbs and clearly didn't trust his line. like it or not darnold seems to be much better with herndon playing. Numerous times yesterday I saw on TV i'm sure those at the game noticed when Sam Darnold got in trouble our WR's stopped running routes and turned around and watched the struggle. Good WR's and TE's come back to the football.....fundamentals. This group other than Crowder is not good. Wide Receiver (5) 81 - Quincy Enunwa 6'2" 225 Nebraska (WR) 11 - Robby Anderson 6'3" 190 Temple (WR) 82 - Jamison Crowder 5'9" 177 Duke (WR) (Free Agent Signing) 15 - Josh Bellamy 6'0" 208 Louisville (WR) (Free Agent Signing) 10 - Braxton Berrios 5'9" 190 Miami (FL) (Waiver Claim from Patriots) (WR) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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