New York Mick Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 26 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: We "could" go from 12 to as high as 8th. Giants pick is worth about 260 points. 12th pick is worth 1200 8th pick is worth 1400 I’d rather have the extra pick. They need help at every position including QB so there’s zero reason to trade up a few spots. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, King P said: If Lamb is at 11, grab him and run. Lamb >> 3rd or 4th best OT I'd have zero problems with this strategy but then we HAVE to go Oline in the 2nd unless we trade Adams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, RobR said: I can't see that happening even though QB's are almost always overdrafted. Teams will trade up for qbs. We know this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, JTJet said: QBs are always over valued. Tua wont drop as much as people think. I think he SHOULD though. He probably has so much metal inside his body that he couldn't pass a TSA checkpoint. He's beyond damaged goods and I didn't think he was that can't miss prospect before the injuries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Well lets see: Burrow Chase Young Okudah Jeudy Lamb Andrew Thomas probably one more QB probably one more OT Those to me are the only sure fire before 11 picks. Delpit and Derrick Brown could be in there as well but other teams might not be as dumb as macganan to pick a good player in a low value position. We could even be in a spot to trade down if a QB is there at 11. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 The injury bug hit us this year but things have gone our way lately. The Browns took Mayfield, Giants Barkley, we got Sam. Now the Broncos beat Oakland by Gruden going for 2 & failing, and the Giants lost again securing a great high 3rd rounder for Leo. Like others have pointed out, 10 players B4 us, 3-QBs, Young, Okudah, Simmons are probably locks, or close to locks. That's 6 players right there not including whoever the best DT will be which might make 7 players. Wirfs, Thomas, Jeudy, Lamb. We're getting a stud Offensive player. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Just now, RobR said: I'd have zero problems with this strategy but then we HAVE to go Oline in the 2nd unless we trade Adams. And there will be plenty of O-Line value in the 2nd and 3rd as well. Lamb + 3 consecutive OL = A+ draft IMO 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Augustiniak said: Teams will trade up for qbs. We know this. This is a really bad QB class outside of Burrow and even he isn't a slam dunk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 11th Can we update thread title? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 minute ago, King P said: And there will be plenty of O-Line value in the 2nd and 3rd as well. Lamb + 3 consecutive OL = A+ draft IMO OL is the top priority but I don’t think we have to use all our top picks on the OL. This draft is deep at WR too and I wouldn’t find addressing edge rusher in the 3rd round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 The best thing that could happen to the Jets is the Chargers fall in love with a QB and take one at 6(assuming the Dolphins take Tua). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, RobR said: He probably has so much metal inside his body that he couldn't pass a TSA checkpoint. He's beyond damaged goods and I didn't think he was that can't miss prospect before the injuries. Agreed. But ya know how NFL execs think lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, King P said: And there will be plenty of O-Line value in the 2nd and 3rd as well. Lamb + 3 consecutive OL = A+ draft IMO I still want another WR sandwiched in between. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Well lets see: Burrow Chase Young Okudah Jeudy Lamb Andrew Thomas probably one more QB probably one more OT Those to me are the only sure fire before 11 picks. Delpit and Derrick Brown could be in there as well but other teams might not be as dumb as macganan to pick a good player in a low value position. We could even be in a spot to trade down if a QB is there at 11. For one hot second while reading this, I thought you were suggesting we take Delpit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinamite Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 17 minutes ago, RobR said: It looks like we dropped a couple of slots with Jax winning. Would have picked 9th instead of 11th if we lost today. It's going to be curious who gets drafted 9th and 10th.....just watch Wirfs and Lamb go in those two slots. The other difference is we pick 16th in the second round (rotate picks with other 7-9 teams), instead of 11. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 22 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: Jets will get an OT at 11. With 10 picks ahead of us, 3 qbs will go, young and a few more defensive guys. Throw in the wrs. Jets will be fine. Cardinals and Browns will take OTs ahead of us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Well lets see: Burrow Chase Young Okudah Jeudy Lamb Andrew Thomas probably one more QB probably one more OT Those to me are the only sure fire before 11 picks. Delpit and Derrick Brown could be in there as well but other teams might not be as dumb as macganan to pick a good player in a low value position. We could even be in a spot to trade down if a QB is there at 11. Isiaah Simmons and Epenesa would both be in the category as well as lots of teams need pass rushers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, JTJet said: For one hot second while reading this, I thought you were suggesting we take Delpit... McCagnan would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 minute ago, JTJet said: Agreed. But ya know how NFL execs think lol. Mac was a GM that oversaw five drafts so anything is possible. Going back to your original post I can't see Miami pulling that kind of trigger considering they are already picking high. I wouldn't mind moving down a slot or so and picking up a second or more depending on how the draft shakes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Just now, jetstream23 said: Cardinals and Browns will take OTs ahead of us. If Kliff is staring at a Lamb or an OT, I am not sure he's taking the OT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 19 minutes ago, Big_Slick said: I'd trust JD to make the right call on a possible trade up if he thought that a can't miss franchise LT or RT was on the board. It’s almost a guarantee Cleveland goes LT, hopefully there’s two quality LTs in the board at 10 and 11 or else we gotta jump them 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Just now, HawkeyeJet said: Isiaah Simmons and Epenesa would both be in the category as well as lots of teams need pass rushers. So we will probably have a shot at the 3rd best OT or one of the WRs might drop to our spot. There is undoubtedly at least one player who will skyrocket into the top ten in the off season that we do not expect right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 minute ago, HawkeyeJet said: If Kliff is staring at a Lamb or an OT, I am not sure he's taking the OT If you can add a WR1 in Lamb, who also played with your 2nd year QB you gotta take him Lamb shouldn’t get passed Arizona. Hopefully he gets to 11 though lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Dinamite said: The other difference is we pick 16th in the second round (rotate picks with other 7-9 teams), instead of 11. Excellent point that most people miss out on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, RobR said: Mac was a GM that oversaw five drafts so anything is possible. Going back to your original post I can't see Miami pulling that kind of trigger considering they are already picking high. I wouldn't mind moving down a slot or so and picking up a second or more depending on how the draft shakes out. Yes I would be in favor of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Tee Higgins maybe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Well lets see: Burrow Chase Young Okudah Jeudy Lamb Andrew Thomas probably one more QB probably one more OT Those to me are the only sure fire before 11 picks. Delpit and Derrick Brown could be in there as well but other teams might not be as dumb as macganan to pick a good player in a low value position. We could even be in a spot to trade down if a QB is there at 11. I think Brown is the top DT so he’ll be going in the top 10 easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Larz said: Tee Higgins maybe? Travis Etienne maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, New York Mick said: I think Brown is the top DT so he’ll be going in the top 10 easily. I could see him slide a bit because I don't see a passrusher at the NFL level.....he's just too big. He's really good but I don't view him as a ten sack kinda guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Travis Etienne maybe? 11th overall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Just now, RobR said: 11th overall? Just throwing names out there, relax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 minute ago, RobR said: I could see him slide a bit because I don't see a passrusher at the NFL level.....he's just too big. He's really good but I don't view him as a ten sack kinda guy. From now to the combine to the draft everyone but the top guys are moving around the boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: Just throwing names out there, relax. Since we are talking about the 11th pick I had to ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 34 minutes ago, SR24 said: I think Arizona takes Lamb reunites him with Kyler. Didn’t Jax just draft Juwaan Taylor last year? I remember him being mocked really high but then being drafted in the early 2nd. I haven’t watched much of Jax this though fwiw Zona's OL might be worse than ours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 minute ago, New York Mick said: From now to the combine to the draft everyone but the top guys are moving around the boards. Are you kidding me? Players that are ranked high right now will slide come draft day....it happens every single year. We have yet to finish the bowl games, the all star games, the combine, pro days, and the rumor mill. Nothing is close to being set in stone during this time of year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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