jgb Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, Butterfield said: You are a fan of more than one team? AFC team and NFC team. Jets by far my first love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB1 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: my biggest question with fields is, how good is he with basic slants, sideline timing throws, etc. i haven't watched a lot of him, and his deep ball is great. Incredible at it. Good enough to open the season with 90% completion through 3 games. The guy is a prodigious thrower of the football. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 As far as I know he hasn’t missed any games in college and also hasn’t had any major injury history problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 He's not a run first QB. He's a QB who can run when the play breaks down. He's a great runner, but he's not looking to do it. As long as he learns how to slide and avoid big hits when he does run, he should be fine in that regard. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, jgb said: AFC team and NFC team. Jets by far my first love. No wonder we disagree. Nothing worse in fandom than someone who roots for more than one team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Butterfield said: No wonder we disagree. Nothing worse in fandom than someone who roots for more than one team. Oh you're one of the "not a real fan" guys. And to think, I said I respected your opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, jgb said: Oh you're one of the "not a real fan" guys. And to think, I said I respected your opinion I don’t know what you are talking about. I wouldn’t even consider myself a real fan of the jets anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Butterfield said: Again, disagree. Newton was a failure. If Newton was a failure, what is our current QB situation? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, Butterfield said: I don’t know what you are talking about. I wouldn’t even consider myself a real fan of the jets anymore. You're free to assess your own fandom but I kindly ask not to do that to mine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, jgb said: You're free to assess your own fandom but I kindly ask not to do that to mine. Lol. Stop trying to control how other people feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, TeddEY said: If Newton was a failure, what is our current QB situation? An abomination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 I tell you one thing. Watching that 62 yard TD he threw on a dime. Weird motion for such a strong arm. He has this half cocked wrist action with really great footwork and strong lower body torque. Wouldn't mind seeing that every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Butterfield said: Lol. Stop trying to control how other people feel. You can disagree all you want. But as a human, try to do it without being so disagreeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, jgb said: You can disagree all you want. But as a human, try to do it without being so disagreeable. What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Also, serious question. Does anyone ever, like ever, ask "durability" questions about white QBs? 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, TeddEY said: Also, serious question. Does anyone ever, like ever, ask "durability" questions about white QBs? Chad Pennington? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, Scott Dierking said: Chad Pennington? even darnold. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 17 minutes ago, QB1 said: Incredible at it. Good enough to open the season with 90% completion through 3 games. The guy is a prodigious thrower of the football. The one game where he faced a pass rush he was awful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waka Flocka Flacco Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, TeddEY said: Also, serious question. Does anyone ever, like ever, ask "durability" questions about white QBs? Only after they've satisfied themselves that he had NO IDEA how old the girl was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: Chad Pennington? Yeah, but only after his own teammate called him an egg. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: Chad Pennington? 8 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: even darnold. Obviously, I mean during the scouting process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Matt39 said: The one game where he faced a pass rush he was awful. Clemson was 5th in sacks/game. Indiana 15th. Penn State 50th. So half his games he played a top 50 pass rush. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: Clemson was 5th in sacks/game. Indiana 15th. Penn State 50th. So half his games he played a top 50 pass rush. i just watched fields vs indiana. educational to watch. he had 3 picks, 2 were darnold-esque where he should have eaten the ball for a sack but chucked it up there expecting his guy to go get it and it was a jump ball. so there's some decision making to fix but in fairness to him he's probably used to his guys making every play so he may have figured i'll chuck it up anyway. indiana's pass rush is legit, gave him fits all game. yet fields can buy time and avoid a rush and eats up easy yards on scrambles. needs to protect his body more as we saw vs clemson. only negative i saw was that he usually locks onto his 1st target, but again in fairness to him that guy is usually open so why go through your progressions when you get the easy completion to target #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 10 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: Clemson was 5th in sacks/game. Indiana 15th. Penn State 50th. So half his games he played a top 50 pass rush. Northwestern game he was under duress and did not pay well. He could have played the Clemson game in a tuxedo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greensleeves Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 hours ago, long time suffering Jets f said: With all this QB talk it sounds like a lose-lose situation. Fields with his inconsistent play, Wilson with his small frame and injury history, and 3 years of subpar Darnold. Bottomline no QB is a sure thing even Trevor Lawrence. You know where I stand. I’ve seen enough of Sam and it’s time for a change. It’s a shame cause when he was drafted I thought we finally found our franchise QB. Good kid and team player but it just didn’t work out. I hope JD realizes that and moves on. Fields is anything but inconsistent. Geez. The guy has only had two bad games in his career - one when the team was without 3 OL players and 22 overall were out for the game. He had a bad thumb in his throwing hand as well. Having a historic game when you are under intense pressure with the amazing toughness and leadership he showed - that's more than enough for me. The last gutsy performance I can remember was Watson's - and we passed on him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 39 minutes ago, TeddEY said: Also, serious question. Does anyone ever, like ever, ask "durability" questions about white QBs? Guess you haven't been watching the Wilson discussion.. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 I would love to be worried about our great QB's body breaking down 10 years from now as opposed to trying to move off him in 3 years because he stunk 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Fields is really more of a "he can run, but doesn't need to" type guy. He's also a big, physical athlete. I'm not concerned at all about injuries with him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, Drums said: Guess you haven't been watching the Wilson discussion.. Fair, so it takes like what, 2 major shoulder surgeries to be on par with, never getting hurt. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 If Fields has a five year career with ONLY one Super Bowl ring, I'll just have to accept that and move on. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 hours ago, MysticalJet2 said: So I fully admit I have not watched many games of Fields. I did watch the Clemson game and there are several things that stood out as positives 1) Accuracy was spot on 2) Dual threat was able to keep Clemson on their heels 3) Toughness - not doubt he will grit it out 4) Strong arm, but it didn't seem to be a cannon. Deep passes looked nice. My biggest concern after watching is his longevity in the NFL. He took some pretty good pops during that game while running the ball. Although pretty fast for a QB, his running style reminds me of Cam Newton. Not as shifty as Russell Wilson, not as quick as Mahomes, and certainly not as fast a Lamar. Cam over the years has taken a beating and has impacted his on the field health and productivity. For those that have watched Fields throughout his college, is this a legitimate concern? and what are your thoughts. It really depends on what they ask him to be as QB and what offense they employ. If he's more of a passing QB that can run like Wilson is in Sea , he'll be fine. If they deploy him like Jackson in Bal or Cam initially in Carolina - run first and then throw when needed it becomes a bigger concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJF71 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 hours ago, jgb said: Not sure why concern that Fields would be another Cam Newton is a dig, either. Can Newton — in his prime — was very often the best player on the field something the Jets can’t say about any of its QBs since? His MVP/SB year he had the worst weaponz in recent memory and he put that team on his back and willed it to overachieve. Was he perfect? No. Did he win a ring? No. But if Fields is Cam Newton part deux, that’s a homerun. I'm ok with Fields being compared to Cam as long as he doesn't dress like RuPaul and isn't a douche. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, 56mehl56 said: It really depends on what they ask him to be as QB and what offense they employ. If he's more of a passing QB that can run like Wilson is in Sea , he'll be fine. If they deploy him like Jackson in Bal or Cam initially in Carolina - run first and then throw when needed it becomes a bigger concern. he reminds me more of a bigger desean watson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 hours ago, long time suffering Jets f said: With all this QB talk it sounds like a lose-lose situation. Fields with his inconsistent play, Wilson with his small frame and injury history, and 3 years of subpar Darnold. Bottomline no QB is a sure thing even Trevor Lawrence. You know where I stand. I’ve seen enough of Sam and it’s time for a change. It’s a shame cause when he was drafted I thought we finally found our franchise QB. Good kid and team player but it just didn’t work out. I hope JD realizes that and moves on. not this crap again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 hours ago, chrisfaceoff said: Not that I want to speak of his name but as a Penn State fan, this is exactly what happened to Christian Hackenberg in college. Due was on an absolute tear and looked like a star and then his OL graduated and those who replaced him were not near the same level of talent. he took so many unnecessary hits the next 2 years and started playing scared in my opinion. Not that they are the same QB by any means, but that’s always been the eye opener for me and believing you need to solidify the line for anyone to have success. I think your missing a key component around this with some guys named Sandusky and Paterno. So many PSU players transferred out , Hackenberg for some reason decided to stay and yes that resulted in him getting pummeled . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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