SouthernJet Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Numbnuts Gase has proven players thrive when he leaves or they are moved to another team via trade/cut. Losing Gase as coach has produced AllPro votes, Comeback Player of Year etc etc So based on that what Jets and why will most positively grow their game this year? My first pick is Herndon based on Gase running system he admitted only used TEs for blocking and rumor that JD told Gase to involve him last 3-4 games of year when he caught 17 of 21 targets , 3-4 TDs and showed damn nice mobility and was catching ball with his hands, a habit he had gotten out of. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncjetman Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 agree with herndon - could have a really good bounce back year - and seriously every hold over from last years team should do better with professional and competent coaching staff - even greg williams who certainly has had his moments as defensive coordinator only coached guys down last year - i’m sure every player on the team is in “ good bye and good riddance” mode Sent from my iPad using JetNation.com mobile app 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, SouthernJet said: Numbnuts Gase has proven players thrive when he leaves Except Bell, busted in KC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethead Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, SouthernJet said: My first pick is Herndon based on Gase running system he admitted only used TEs for blocking and rumor that JD told Gase to involve him last 3-4 games of year when he caught 17 of 21 targets , 3-4 TDs and showed damn nice mobility and was catching ball with his hands, a habit he had gotten out of. This would be Yuge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecuadorian Jet Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 I am hopeful that McGovern´s play improves. I am pretty sure that both Ty Johnson and Josh Adams will positively surprise. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Bronx said: Except Bell, busted in KC. ya he was to point when Jets signed him that even Shanahans old Bronco teams couldnt get yardage from him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Herndon CJ Mosely Every Running Back not 38 years old Mims McGovern (for many reasons including Gasehole) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BornJetsFan1983 Posted May 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, SouthernJet said: Numbnuts Gase has proven players thrive when he leaves or they are moved to another team via trade/cut. Losing Gase as coach has produced AllPro votes, Comeback Player of Year etc etc So based on that what Jets and why will most positively grow their game this year? My first pick is Herndon based on Gase running system he admitted only used TEs for blocking and rumor that JD told Gase to involve him last 3-4 games of year when he caught 17 of 21 targets , 3-4 TDs and showed damn nice mobility and was catching ball with his hands, a habit he had gotten out of. darnold... 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sperm Edwards Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 12 minutes ago, SouthernJet said: Numbnuts Gase has proven players thrive when he leaves or they are moved to another team via trade/cut. Losing Gase as coach has produced AllPro votes, Comeback Player of Year etc etc So based on that what Jets and why will most positively grow their game this year? My first pick is Herndon based on Gase running system he admitted only used TEs for blocking and rumor that JD told Gase to involve him last 3-4 games of year when he caught 17 of 21 targets , 3-4 TDs and showed damn nice mobility and was catching ball with his hands, a habit he had gotten out of. I hadn't heard that one. Honestly I expected him to draft a TE, but maybe this is partly why he didn't. He wasn't without bad drops last year, too. Also the economics of the position: If Herndon has another letdown season, TE is rarely a position that requires upper 1st round investment (not that we don't have two 1s and two 2s next year). On the flip side, if he pans out, it's also not a position that typically commands upper-level money: there are 5 TEs in the league making $9MM+ so Herndon is an easy franchise tag if he's commanding north of what Douglas is willing to match -- make him do it twice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzyJet Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 McGovern and Fant - I think our Oline will surprise a lot of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said: darnold... This is the correct answer as much as it will horrify some people on this site. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, Beerfish said: This is the correct answer as much as it will horrify some people on this site. Can’t wait for pick 34 in next years draft from the Pathers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Just now, kdels62 said: Can’t wait for pick 34 in next years draft from the Pathers. I will be interested to see the narrative around here and how it changes if the Panthers do well this year instead of epically awful as most seem to suspect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BettyBoop Posted May 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2021 Going from Adam’s Gaze to Joe Brady is like going from Sargent Bilko to George Patton. 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alworth Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, BettyBoop said: Going from Adam’s Gaze to Joe Brady is like going from Sargent Bilko to George Patton. Bilko would at least have kept up with Belichick in the dirty tricks department 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, Beerfish said: I will be interested to see the narrative around here and how it changes if the Panthers do well this year instead of epically awful as most seem to suspect. I will accept a failure to properly estimate the team. I’m also willing to accept that Darnold did something without precedent and became a good NFL QB. But chances are highest that Darnold will be bad and therefore his team will likely be bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Every one of the players everyone complained about being “stifled” by Gase is an average player. They just drafted a WR1 because Parker is average. Kenyan Drake sucks. Tannehill is a game manager who hasn’t won sh*t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: Every one of the players everyone complained about being “stifled” by Gase is an average player. They just drafted a WR1 because Parker is average. Kenyan Drake sucks. Tannehill is a game manager who hasn’t won sh*t. How can you be so wrong about Wilson but so right about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 27 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: I hadn't heard that one. Honestly I expected him to draft a TE, but maybe this is partly why he didn't. He wasn't without bad drops last year, too. Also the economics of the position: If Herndon has another letdown season, TE is rarely a position that requires upper 1st round investment (not that we don't have two 1s and two 2s next year). On the flip side, if he pans out, it's also not a position that typically commands upper-level money: there are 5 TEs in the league making $9MM+ so Herndon is an easy franchise tag if he's commanding north of what Douglas is willing to match -- make him do it twice. The TE group is a pretty strange and interesting bunch. It will be interesting to see how LaFleur plans to use Herndon, Kroft, Griffin, Wesco, etc. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, kdels62 said: How can you be so wrong about Wilson but so right about this? I sense your terror, sir 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prestige Worldwide Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 15 minutes ago, BettyBoop said: Going from Adam’s Gaze to Joe Brady is like going from Sargent Bilko to George Patton. At least Bilko was funny and his men liked him 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 21 minutes ago, BettyBoop said: Going from Adam’s Gaze to Joe Brady is like going from Sargent Bilko to George Patton. Sergeant Bilko??? Showing your age.? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 18 minutes ago, kdels62 said: I will accept a failure to properly estimate the team. I’m also willing to accept that Darnold did something without precedent and became a good NFL QB. But chances are highest that Darnold will be bad and therefore his team will likely be bad. We will know by game 8 that is for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 If McGovern/ GVR/Fant improve their play in the new scheme it'll have some of the biggest overall impact on the team. So hopefully them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 hour ago, SouthernJet said: Numbnuts Gase has proven players thrive when he leaves or they are moved to another team via trade/cut. Losing Gase as coach has produced AllPro votes, Comeback Player of Year etc etc So based on that what Jets and why will most positively grow their game this year? My first pick is Herndon based on Gase running system he admitted only used TEs for blocking and rumor that JD told Gase to involve him last 3-4 games of year when he caught 17 of 21 targets , 3-4 TDs and showed damn nice mobility and was catching ball with his hands, a habit he had gotten out of. Not to rain on your parade, but that effect seemed much less for the Players he left behind in Miami and stayed in Miami over the ones who left Miami. Although, I do think herndon could be a big comeback player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Alworth said: Bilko would at least have kept up with Belichick in the dirty tricks department As long as it was the REAL Sergeant Bilko, not the terrible '90s version. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alworth Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 28 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: As long as it was the REAL Sergeant Bilko, not the terrible '90s version. I'm so old I wasn't even aware of the '90s version. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 This is quite literally the exact opposite of an algorithm. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 32 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: This is quite literally the exact opposite of an algorithm. Proven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 The entire OL. I honestly don’t think we had terrible players, just terrible coaching and I do not believe Sam understood what he was seeing well enough to make the right calls on the line. Though they weren’t stellar with Flacco, they were much better.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Beerfish said: This is the correct answer as much as it will horrify some people on this site. Probably the same.people still crying about the 3rd round picks we traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecuadorian Jet Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 5 hours ago, jetstream23 said: The TE group is a pretty strange and interesting bunch. It will be interesting to see how LaFleur plans to use Herndon, Kroft, Griffin, Wesco, etc. I'm pretty sure that Griffin is gone and I would not be surprised if the Jets let Wesco walk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 6 hours ago, Beerfish said: This is the correct answer as much as it will horrify some people on this site. Define what a Darnold rebound would look like. Then let’s make some sort of wager — bragging rights, signature change, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Bronx said: Probably the same.people still crying about the 3rd round picks we traded. It’s not crying to point out it would be better to have those picks than have burned them plus a first rounder on yet another bust QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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