We know they are bad, but stop beating each other over the head

[jgb]

2 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Really? That’s what you got from that? Honestly it’s an odd response from you because I didn’t really think of you as someone who has been constantly just crushing the subject. You always add a positive caveat about hoping it gets better even if you don’t believe it will. You have always been a guy that tends to want to “see it” rather than “ hear it” from this team. I don’t honestly see how this relates to you. 

Maybe he is posting on principle and not self-interest.

[Jet Nut]

6 minutes ago, jgb said:

You just brought up "Zach haters" unprompted in the thread about path to Jets getting the #1 pick. Like I said, luckily for you the judge on what is derailing is on your side. 

I did? Unprompted? Me?  

Luckily the judges are sane

[TheNuuFaaolaExperience]

8 hours ago, undertow said:

There's just as many people if not more having tantrums over legit criticism of the QB and have been having tantrums over legit criticism of the GM since the summer.  From what I see that cultish like behavior seems to be more of a problem.  I think people just wanna sit around and have a circle jerk about how great things are. loll

Give examples of legit criticism followed by tantrums. "Zach Wilson sucks, and is a wasted draft pick" is not a legit criticism. 

 

[jgb]

Just now, Jet Nut said:

I did? 

Luckily the judges are sane

Sorry my bad that was @Joe W. Namath

Apologies

[jgb]

5 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said:

Give examples of legit criticism followed by tantrums. "Zach Wilson sucks, and is a wasted draft pick" is not a legit criticism. 

 

What a neat way you've summarized the mountains of data, analysis, league history, projections, etc. that have been raised and -- obviously for Max's tastes -- posted all too frequently.

[The Crusher]

4 minutes ago, jgb said:

You just brought up "Zach haters" unprompted in the thread about path to Jets getting the #1 pick. Like I said, luckily for you the judge on what is derailing is on your side. 

 

3 minutes ago, jgb said:

90% (likely more, being conservative) of my posts are in response to someone else bringing up Zach. Don't make me do a data analysis.

I know. It’s what you do. Like all you do. Constantly. Incessantly. 

[jgb]

1 minute ago, The Crusher said:

 

I know. It’s what you do. Like all you do. Constantly. Incessantly. 

All I do. Number one, that's false. Number two, I would expect those with a minority opinion to be the most visible. If you add up all the positive posts with the negative, the positive greatly outnumber. It's just that the negative are concentrated among the few who are brave enough to be contrarians.

[slats]

10 minutes ago, jgb said:

90% (likely more, being conservative) of my posts are in response to someone else bringing up Zach. Don't make me do a data analysis.

Please take care of that data analysis and report back. Show your work. 

[jgb]

1 minute ago, slats said:

Please take care of that data analysis and report back. Show your work. 

Twice in a month. Lucky me.

And I don't accept homework assignments on the internet. If you want to assert something, accept the burden and prove it.

[slats]

1 minute ago, jgb said:

Twice in a month. Lucky me.

And I don't accept homework assignments on the internet. If you want to assert something, accept the burden and prove it.

 

14 minutes ago, jgb said:

90% (likely more, being conservative) of my posts are in response to someone else bringing up Zach. Don't make me do a data analysis.

Looks like you asserted something and now don’t want to accept the burden and prove it from here. 

[TheNuuFaaolaExperience]

7 minutes ago, jgb said:

What a neat way you've summarized the mountains of data, analysis, league history, projections, etc. that have been raised and -- obviously for Max's tastes -- posted all too frequently.

Um, ok. Now give examples of legitimate criticism of Zach Wilson followed by a "tantrum."

[The Crusher]

6 minutes ago, jgb said:

Maybe he is posting on principle and not self-interest.

Yes principle. Love that. I can’t be wrong because I’m doing this on principle. Well good for you Johnny. You fight the good fight against Jet fans holding a modicum of hope for our hapless rookie QB. Proud of you! 

[jgb]

1 minute ago, slats said:

 

Looks like you asserted something and now don’t want to accept the burden and prove it from here. 

I know you've been agitating for years to get me onto the anvil. It won't work. Feliz navidad, brother.

[The Crusher]

4 minutes ago, jgb said:

Twice in a month. Lucky me.

And I don't accept homework assignments on the internet. If you want to assert something, accept the burden and prove it.

Not even in principle? 

[jgb]

3 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Yes principle. Love that. I can’t be wrong because I’m doing this on principle. Well good for you Johnny. You fight the good fight against Jet fans holding a modicum of hope for our hapless rookie QB. Proud of you! 

Didn't say he was right or wrong or anything in between. Just that people don't need to have a personal stake in something to stand up for it.

[TuscanyTile2]

2 hours ago, munchmemory said:

I'd pay a king's ransom for @The Crusher to do a series of tasteful nudes.

Why does everything Crusher-related have to do with taste?

[jgb]

3 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said:

Um, ok. Now give examples of legitimate criticism of Zach Wilson followed by a "tantrum."

Since it wasn't my assertion, I will not.

[slats]

2 minutes ago, jgb said:

I know you've been agitating for years to get me onto the anvil. It won't work. Feliz navidad, brother.

Obvious dodge is obvious. 

[TheNuuFaaolaExperience]

Just now, jgb said:

Since it wasn't my assertion, I will not.

You inserted yourself (huh huh, inserted) into a conversation that was not directed at you. 

[Warfish]

7 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Really? That’s what you got from that? Honestly it’s an odd response from you because I didn’t really think of you as someone who has been constantly just crushing the subject. You always add a positive caveat about hoping it gets better even if you don’t believe it will. You have always been a guy that tends to want to “see it” rather than “ hear it” from this team. I don’t honestly see how this relates to you. 

What Max wrote can, and in the minds of some posters I could name right off, does apply directly to a poster like me.

I'm not going to argue with Max or his Mods. Especially you, old friend.  I have nothing but love for you all, especially you and Phil.  Not during the Holidays and probably (on this topic) not ever.

His site, his rules.  I will endeavor to obey.  But I have no doubt this new rule will hit me directly at some point.

And respectfully, that's my last word on it, I'm opting out of this discussion.  

 

[The Crusher]

9 minutes ago, jgb said:

All I do. Number one, that's false. Number two, I would expect those with a minority opinion to be the most visible. If you add up all the positive posts with the negative, the positive greatly outnumber. It's just that the negative are concentrated among the few who are brave enough to be contrarians.

You are the bravest of the brave! 

[Jet_Engine1]

I had a stupid post about Tom Brady being a goon the other night locked because it was derailed by Wilson hate. 

 

The threat is real.

[The Crusher]

4 minutes ago, Warfish said:

What Max wrote can, and in the minds of some posters I could name right off, does apply directly to a poster like me.

I'm not going to argue with Max or his Mods. Especially you, old friend.  I have nothing but love for you all, especially you and Phil.  Not during the Holidays and probably (on this topic) not ever.

His site, his rules.  I will endeavor to obey.  But I have no doubt this new rule will hit me directly at some point.

And respectfully, that's my last word on it, I'm opting out of this discussion.  

 

Ok. That’s fair and a reasonable path. My only point is you in all your posting tend to be reasonable and very thought out. Even if it’s something I don’t agree with it I get something from your point you make and respect it. Love you brother and Happy holidays. 

[Ken Schroy]

10 hours ago, Charlie Brown said:

Thank you so much Captain!

Tellingly my father whom I had been taken care of during his ongoing battle with memory loss passed last week and he was the one who made me into a Jets fan. 

His motto was simple, “life will not go your way most of the time and it is up to you to decide to make whatever path you take a path of courage and caring, so stay strong!”

Hence I will never give up on the Jets because my father never gave up on me!

Stay Strong fellow Jets fans…

Stay Strong!!  

Very sorry @Charlie Brown. I lost my Dad last year. Be well and good thoughts for Christmas and New Years.

[The Crusher]

10 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Why does everything Crusher-related have to do with taste?

It’s my most developed sense,

[freestater]

I sleep better at night knowing that the good fight is being fought, maybe not by the hero we want...but the hero we need.

[slats]

4 minutes ago, Warfish said:

What Max wrote can, and in the minds of some posters I could name right off, does apply directly to a poster like me.

I'm not going to argue with Max or his Mods. Especially you, old friend.  I have nothing but love for you all, especially you and Phil.  Not during the Holidays and probably (on this topic) not ever.

His site, his rules.  I will endeavor to obey.  But I have no doubt this new rule will hit me directly at some point.

And respectfully, that's my last word on it, I'm opting out of this discussion.  

 

Max is talking specifically about the people who feel the need to take a Zach/JD/Saleh sucks dump in every thread, regardless of the topic. This is not any new rule, but there’s no reason to think this announcement will hit you directly, either. 

[Green Ghost]

1 hour ago, munchmemory said:

Whether it was arguing with your pals and others in bars or at work before the internet days, the heated discussion is just a part of being a fan of this team.    The only thing that ever bothers me is when some folks call you less of a fan for deriding a player, GM or coach, as well as the team in general.   

You just saved me the trouble of posting the exact same thing Munch.

You and I grew up in a different era. I’ll just say I’m surprised to see a thread like this on a site where grown men gather to talk football and leave it at that.

As someone said earlier this is Max’s site, and if he feels people are going too far, that’s all that matters.

@Charlie Brown my heart goes out to you. There is never a good time for a son to lose his dad, but to have it happen this time of year makes it even worse. Take solace in the fact you were a good son, and trust me, you’ll eventually get the feeling he’s up there looking out for you. It’s not the same as having him around, but hopefully you’ll get comfort from that and the fond memories you have.

[freestater]

so sorry @Charlie Brown. I hate that it was at this time of year for you and yours. Words can be hollow comfort sometimes, but I hope the calm and patient manner you've always displayed here (and for which I've admired and appreciate you for) is equally present with your loss. Take care of yourself, and I hope precious memories can fill your heart and head. Peace. 

[faba]

Sorry Charlie Brown for the loss

 

We all want the jets to win the end goal try to be respectable to others

[Peace Frog]

A very polite and entirely legitimate request by the MAN to stop polluting every single thread by the AZM. This is the second time he's asked nicely. 

And STILL there is pushback.  Can't make this up.  

We get it.

We get it already.  

[The Crusher]

I like the part were the people that constantly and incessantly attack Zach in about every thread feel like they are being unfairly treated by @Maxman making this thread. Yet, the one poster who constantly and  incessantly praised Zach was literally banned from the site! He gets banned you guys get a thread about toning it down. Haha Attica! Attica! 

[undertow]

4 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

I like the part were the people that constantly and incessantly attack Zach in about every thread feel like they are being unfairly treated by @Maxman making this thread. Yet, the one poster who constantly and  incessantly praised Zach was literally banned from the site! He gets banned you guys get a thread about toning it down. Haha Attica! Attica! 

we should start more #freemims threads amirite? 

[Peace Frog]

1 hour ago, Flea Flicking Frank said:

 one in particular decides to spray diarrhea all over the thread, and worse he sprays that same diarrhea all over any thread that he can to get the topic back to ZW as the worst QB who has ever lived. There are a few that do this, and it's making the boards unreadable. I blocked the worst of them, but others aren't far behind.

Ouch.  Even it he doesn't listen to Max, I hope he takes this to heart.  

 

[jgb]

29 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said:

You inserted yourself (huh huh, inserted) into a conversation that was not directed at you. 

If you don't want something commented on, take it to PM and don't post it publicly.