Westhoff on Zach and Brees/Marino

[pointman]

29 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I would like to dunk all over Zach on this one, but I’ve listened to a bunch of Mike Westhoff interviews over the past few months and in every one he’s litigating some personal slight from some coach or player who didn’t heed his sage advice. You feel a little bad for him because he’s an old man who lived a charmed life, but is now finding out that retirement is a dark and lonely place and nobody really cares that he coached up a bunch of good kick return squads in the 90’s.

 

EXACTLY THIS. END OF THREAD. I knew one day I'd agree with TrollShane.

[pointman]

1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Just take the L

[Spoot-Face]

4 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

You laughed at that?  Yikes.

A light chuckle, yes.

That's the first reaction from me he's gotten that wasn't either a downvote or a d'oh.

[T0mShane]

25 minutes ago, Paradis said:

Like everything this week, grains of salt. The point is simply that the narrative exists/persists. It’s not a concoction of fiction.  

Worth remembering that Zach is an ADD kid who rides the Ritalin train. As a fellow ADD weirdo, I cannot imagine the kind of torture it would be to end up sitting next to an old man talking about Dan Marino. I would literally self-injure in an attempt to create a distraction so I could leave the situation. 

[Spoot-Face]

7 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Which is why Westhoff was gonna call Marino.  Not tell Wilson about how to be a successful QB himself.  Wilson clearly wasn't interested.  And it kinda shows in his play.  

This stuff, collectively, matters in this league.

I mean, Zach sucks, we all know that, but we are talking about an anecdote of a 70+ year old man, Westhoff's past successes notwithstanding.

Not even T0m is jumping on this to eviscerate Zach.

[pointman]

So basically, everyone but me hates Zach yet most are saying Westhoff likes his cereal with tap water. Got it. 

[FTL Jet Fan]

 

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

People just looking for things to hate about Zach. Jesus. This is dumb. 

Zach just got benched?? Boy let me tell you this one time he didn’t want to listen to my Dan Marino story. I always knew that Wilson boy was a poor leader and human being since that moment. 
 

Gimme a break. 

[Beerfish]

Did Joe Namath get upset as well that Zac did not want to listen to his set list, highlighted by sweet home alabama?

[Spoot-Face]

6 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I would literally self-injure in an attempt to create a distraction so I could leave the situation. 

My go-to Thanksgiving move.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

Can’t wait to hear how Zach kicked Kleckos puppy. And didn’t take ownership of it. 

[Spoot-Face]

"Laces out, Dan."

 

--Mike Westhoff

[JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF]

40 minutes ago, Lurker89 said:

Its only 2 minutes long.

Long story short at Practice in the offseason Westhoff was scheduled to do a few interviews during his visit.

For one of them he was with Zach and beforehand they're sitting there and Westhoff tried to strike to some strike up some convo about Dan Marino and pass along some grandfatherly advice to which Westhoff felt Zach was unresponsive and nonattentive.

Then he told Wilson “Hey I know Marino’s phone number, I’ll call him for you right now, he’ll school ya”.

Then in a Mr. T voice Wilson said “Shut up old man”, and slapped Westhoff off the grandstand the two were sitting on.  Westhoff declined medical attention, but once again we now find more Evidence that Wilson truly is the Devil.

 

[PorP]

1 hour ago, Paradis said:

I don’t know if this sh*t is floating around in one of the 300 ZW threads, but I do know the appetite remains to lament over the grande canyon gap Wilson has yet to leap in the leadership/awareness dept

 

No one has accepted Zach has an ego problem that certainly contributed to his benching?

Like what is your point? 

 

[Jetsfan80]

25 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said:

I mean, Zach sucks, we all know that, but we are talking about an anecdote of a 70+ year old man, Westhoff's past successes notwithstanding.

Not even T0m is jumping on this to eviscerate Zach.

If it was just this one thing, yeah, no big deal.  But its a combination of things that have come to light the last couple weeks to suggest Wilson is missing some things from a personality perspective that are likely hindering him from success.

[Guilhermezmc]

This one is weak

[undertow]

1 hour ago, Paradis said:

I don’t know if this sh*t is floating around in one of the 300 ZW threads, but I do know the appetite remains to lament over the grande canyon gap Wilson has yet to leap in the leadership/awareness dept

 

I'm glad Mike Westoff got to tell his story to the 12 viewers of The Jets group Chat podcast...is this guy really that bored?

[RevisIsland610]

42 minutes ago, pointman said:

 

Westhoff comes off real arrogant. I liked him here but every time he talks after his tenure has been about how amazing he is, according to him. I can see how someone could be turned off to anything he has to say. 

He was one of the best ST coaches in the league. 

[tfine]

I would love to dunk all over Zach on this one, but I’ve listened to a bunch of Mike Westhoff interviews over the past few months and in every one he’s litigating some personal slight from some coach or player who didn’t heed his sage advice. You feel a little bad for him because he’s an old man who lived a charmed life, but is now finding out that retirement is a dark and lonely place and nobody really cares that he coached up a bunch of good kick return squads in the 90’s.

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[Dunnie]

Worth remembering that Zach is an ADD kid who rides the Ritalin train. As a fellow ADD weirdo, I cannot imagine the kind of torture it would be to end up sitting next to an old man talking about Dan Marino. I would literally self-injure in an attempt to create a distraction so I could leave the situation. 

Loved Mike W when he was with the JETS ... Because he was good at his job. Since his retirement I have seen him drone on and on in various forums and even bought his book. The guy has an amazing story and has had some torturous battles with cancer .... But man ....

He can sound self aggrandizing and always sound bitter towards anyone that didn't make him a head coach. So basically everyone.

Definitely.not afraid to tell you how important he was/is

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[doitny]

53 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said:

I mean, Zach sucks, we all know that, but we are talking about an anecdote of a 70+ year old man, Westhoff's past successes notwithstanding.

Not even T0m is jumping on this to eviscerate Zach.

would it be any different if it was Parcells another 70 plus maybe 80 year old. ? how about Joe Namath? age shouldnt matter a young guy like Zach should be willing to take all advice.

[Dunnie]

would it be any different if it was Parcells another 70 plus maybe 80 year old. ? how about Joe Namath? age shouldnt matter a young guy like Zach should be willing to take all advice.

I'd love to know the forum and context. Mike might have been one of 5 voices talking to him.

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[pointman]

27 minutes ago, RevisIsland610 said:

He was one of the best ST coaches in the league. 

And? No one said he wasn't. I even said I liked him here. 

[JetPotato]

1 hour ago, Larz said:

Can someone please post the executive summary?

It's about the time Westoff and Wilson figured out they were Eskimo brothers.

[SickJetFan]

Everybody needs to leave westie alone...cannot blame him for this era of anyone can have their own tv show.

[Beaver]

Westoff’s problem is trying to relate a QB who retired about when Zach was born.   Oh yeah and said QB never won the Super Bowl.   Older people will remember just how good Marino was but it does not resonate with the younger crowd.  

[RevisIsland610]

13 minutes ago, pointman said:

And? No one said he wasn't. I even said I liked him here. 

You seem to be upset that he knows he was good. 

[RevisIsland610]

3 minutes ago, Beaver said:

Westoff’s problem is trying to relate a QB who retired about when Zach was born.   Oh yeah and said QB never won the Super Bowl.   Older people will remember just how good Marino was but it does not resonate with the younger crowd.  

Marino was great and the only reason he never won a SB was because his defense's couldn't stop a nose bleed. 

[Gastineau Lives]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

I would like to dunk all over Zach on this one, but I’ve listened to a bunch of Mike Westhoff interviews over the past few months and in every one he’s litigating some personal slight from some coach or player who didn’t heed his sage advice. You feel a little bad for him because he’s an old man who lived a charmed life, but is now finding out that retirement is a dark and lonely place and nobody really cares that he coached up a bunch of good kick return squads in the 90’s.

He did a book signing for The Lounge. He was VERY nice. 

[Paradis]

52 minutes ago, undertow said:

I'm glad Mike Westoff got to tell his story to the 12 viewers of The Jets group Chat podcast...is this guy really that bored?

 

1 hour ago, PorP said:

No one has accepted Zach has an ego problem that certainly contributed to his benching?

Like what is your point? 

 

Fine. I’ll never post another video again unless it’s Breaking news. About the Jets and only featuring Jets. 

[LSJF]

So you see Zach, Drew Breeze would sit on my lap and I would tell him all the tales of the Dan Marino…Zach, Zach you hear me? Zach! 

[Paradis]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

Worth remembering that Zach is an ADD kid who rides the Ritalin train. As a fellow ADD weirdo, I cannot imagine the kind of torture it would be to end up sitting next to an old man talking about Dan Marino. I would literally self-injure in an attempt to create a distraction so I could leave the situation. 

Concerta veteran here. You’re reaching.  

[Spoot-Face]

1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

If it was just this one thing, yeah, no big deal.  But its a combination of things that have come to light the last couple weeks to suggest Wilson is missing some things from a personality perspective that are likely hindering him from success.

I didn't need this anecdote to tell me that, lol.

[pointman]

11 minutes ago, RevisIsland610 said:

You seem to be upset that he knows he was good. 

 

Thats what you got from my posts... and everyone elses? 

[Spoot-Face]

31 minutes ago, doitny said:

would it be any different if it was Parcells another 70 plus maybe 80 year old. ? how about Joe Namath? age shouldnt matter a young guy like Zach should be willing to take all advice.

If I needed advice on applying for Medicare, I'd definitely go to Joe Namath.