### The Official Draft Day One Discussion Thread ###

[Embrace the Suck]

30 minutes ago, Gramsci said:

Not really digging the whole "let's draft a tackle with the 15th". 

I think the OL has been dragged down by Qb play over the course of the last season's. With Rodgers being the Qb, I believe that we will see a much more efficient unit. 

I'm way more inclined to draft some IOL pieces in the later rounds.

It's a good point. However, MB is a huge question mark until he proves otherwise and the other guy is pretty old.  The position needs a strong investment also since injuries happen.

[BigRy56]

Have a feeling something outside the OL is coming tonight. My gut says Cancey but I can 100% see a TE coming to NY and for the record I’m 100% here for it - would love it

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

3 minutes ago, BigRy56 said:

Have a feeling something outside the OL is coming tonight. My gut says Cancey but I can 100% see a TE coming to NY and for the record I’m 100% here for it - would love it

I've been wanting them to draft a legit pass-catching TE forever.

But it doesn't make much sense if they're all in for '23.

TE is an especially hard transition from college to the pros.  Kelce basically redshirted his rookie year.

Pitts compiled stats in year 1, but headed into year 3, he has yet to truly breakout.

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

1 hour ago, Ecuadorian Jet said:

Any chance that the Jets trade Zach Wilson for a low round pick?

Not really.

But they should still sign Teddy to backup #8.

It's contradictory to be "all in" on '23 while having nothing behind your starter other than Zach freaking Wilson and Tim Boyle.

[Lith]

13 minutes ago, Dcat said:

Geez, your basing this on sacks alone?  Big mistake.  I know you watched the games. Flacco was constantly under intense pressure.  Constantly. White has his fair share as well. But he and Flacco got rid of the ball, sidelines, INTs sometimes, but they got rid of it.  Try using pressures instead of sacks.  Maybe it will be more revealing.  The OL has been atrocious to all Jets QBs, including White and Flacco.  It's not just Zach.  All of them have been in "run for your life mode".   Don't be surprised if JD goes Brick/Mangold with his first pair of choices today and tomorrow. 

I think the constant "swiss cheese OL" takes are overblown.  Yes I watched the games.  Last season, the OL was solid the first half of the season, until the injuries caught up with them and we were starting guys we plucked off the street two weeks earlier.   Messy pockets are a fact of life in the NFL.  

Your point is taken about Flacco -- but he also is a slow processor.  Team pressure rate last season was 23.3%.  23rd in the league.  Wilson and Flacco both at about 26%.  White was about 16% --  which would have been top 5 in the league.  Year before, WIlson and Flacco  were both about 30% which is horrific.  White at about 19%.  A QB who can process quickly can avoid pressure.  It is not all about the OL.

I expect Rodgers to make a difference in OL play.

[Dcat]

Just now, Lith said:

I think the constant "swiss cheese OL" takes are overblown.  Yes I watched the games.  Last season, the OL was solid the first half of the season, until the injuries caught up with them and we were starting guys we plucked off the street two weeks earlier.   Messy pockets are a fact of life in the NFL.  

Your point is taken about Flacco -- but he also is a slow processor.  Team pressure rate last season was 23.3%.  23rd in the league.  Wilson and Flacco both at about 26%.  White was about 16% --  which would have been top 5 in the league.  Year before, WIlson and Flacco  were both about 30% which is horrific.  White at about 19%.  A QB who can process quickly can avoid pressure.  It is not all about the OL.

I expect Rodgers to make a difference in OL play.

He should and I'm sure he will.  But I think JD is resolved to remove the dog poo for good.  We'll see.

[Paradis]

few bets i made 

• Zay Flowers #1 WR 
• Dalton Kincaide #1 TE
• Robinson #2 RB
• Gibbs #1 RB
• Robinson to ATL
• Levis to HOU

[TuscanyTile2]

1 hour ago, jamesr said:

Not as sad as waiting all off-season for us to trade for a franchise QB - after drafting the franchise QB two years ago.

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After drafting a franchise QB 3 years prior to that!

[Dcat]

1 minute ago, Paradis said:

few bets i made 

• Zay Flowers #1 WR 
• Dalton Kincaide #1 TE
• Robinson #2 RB
• Gibbs #1 RB
• Robinson to ATL
• Levis to HOU

Flowers #1 WR?   Wow.  Which team?

I agree on Kincaid. I hope spelling doesn't count for you.

Rbs flip?  Interesting, but don't think so.

Good choice for falcons there.  Highly possible. Last year's RB pick looks good though. 

Levis to Houston or Tennessee.  I'd make a bet on both.  Big rumor that Titans are moving up for him. 

[TuscanyTile2]

39 minutes ago, Larz said:

SNY JETS draft special just started 

The NFL and its obscenely long pre-game shows.

[C Mart]

1 hour ago, jago said:

is 8 coming out to announce a pick?

 

[oatmeal]

OMG if the pats trade Mac and then trade up for a QB, I’m going to be LAUGHING MY A** OFF TONIGHT! 

[Beerfish]

14 minutes ago, Paradis said:

few bets i made 

• Zay Flowers #1 WR 
• Dalton Kincaide #1 TE
• Robinson #2 RB
• Gibbs #1 RB
• Robinson to ATL
• Levis to HOU

I no longer bet with @Paradis after the Todd Gurley debacle of a few years back.  ?

[Beerfish]

We just literally pushed all our chips in with Rodgers, our oline has a history of getting hurt.

The people wanting to let oline slide to later rounds better recall their words after week one when becton goes down.

If there is one position to over build it is the oline, always.

I'll take a guy even a guard that plays 100% of snaps rather than some edge guy we are going to play 50% of the time.

[jetblue95]

23 minutes ago, Paradis said:

few bets i made 

• Zay Flowers #1 WR 
• Dalton Kincaide #1 TE
• Robinson #2 RB
• Gibbs #1 RB
• Robinson to ATL
• Levis to HOU

 

are you assuming atlanta trades down and then grabs robinson?  because i have a hard time seeing him as the 2nd RB taken if he's going 8th overall

[CanadienJetsFan]

TRADE DOWN, JD!!!

[jetblue95]

Just now, CanadienJetsFan said:

TRADE DOWN, JD!!!

if one of the top 4 QBs fall, then hopefully someone wants to jump in front of washington to grab him

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

 

 

[Beerfish]

The gal covering Detroit says the Lions at 18 were getting calls for their pick from teams wanting to trade up so I think there could be a market for teams to want the Jets pick.

[Beerfish]

1 minute ago, Zachtomims47 said:

 

 

Would have to be a lot more that is for sure.  I wonder which QB the Titans have the love for?

[Rangers9]

If Bijan Robinson available at 15 would you draft him. We saw what happened to our offense after Breece injured and can he fully recover? 

[undertow]

32 minutes ago, Lith said:

I think the constant "swiss cheese OL" takes are overblown.  Yes I watched the games.  Last season, the OL was solid the first half of the season, until the injuries caught up with them and we were starting guys we plucked off the street two weeks earlier.   Messy pockets are a fact of life in the NFL.  

Your point is taken about Flacco -- but he also is a slow processor.  Team pressure rate last season was 23.3%.  23rd in the league.  Wilson and Flacco both at about 26%.  White was about 16% --  which would have been top 5 in the league.  Year before, WIlson and Flacco  were both about 30% which is horrific.  White at about 19%.  A QB who can process quickly can avoid pressure.  It is not all about the OL.

I expect Rodgers to make a difference in OL play.

I agree but Brown will retire after the season and Mcgovern, Becton, and Tomlinson will all be free agents....with no 1st rounder and a large Rodgers cap hit it's probably a smart decision to get another tackle on the team incase of injury and for next year.

[Beerfish]

2 minutes ago, Rangers9 said:

If Bijan Robinson available at 15 would you draft him. We saw what happened to our offense after Breece injured and can he fully recover? 

No.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

4 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Would have to be a lot more that is for sure.  I wonder which QB the Titans have the love for?

Idk but Hopkins deserves better then a rookie QB. 

[undertow]

7 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said:

 

 

Strange if I were the Titans I would be in tank mode for Williams next year they are going nowhere. 

[Integrity28]

11 minutes ago, Rangers9 said:

If Bijan Robinson available at 15 would you draft him. We saw what happened to our offense after Breece injured and can he fully recover? 

Possibly, yes. If no takers for trade down and he’s head and shoulders above the rest of our board.

Can’t have enough “best players on the field”, however, I’d be pissed.

[jetblue95]

17 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said:

 

 

this makes no sense

why would the cardinals have to add DH to the trade for a lower pick

and why would the titans pay up for a veteran WR if they are going into rebuilding mode (and trading up for the #3 pick means rebuilding around a young QB) 

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

10 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said:

Idk but Hopkins deserves better then a rookie QB. 

Why? What's so special about him vs any other veteran receiver?  He was suspended for PEDs.  For that I'd say maybe he deserves a rookie QB at the end of his career.

[GreenFish]

While everyone is likely hoping we draft x or y player, I’m over here like “Joe - Trade for DeAndre Hopkins!!!”. 

[#27TheDominator]

3 minutes ago, GreenFish said:

While everyone is likely hoping we draft x or y player, I’m over here like “Joe - Trade for DeAndre Hopkins!!!”. 

Me too, but not until day 3. 

[Vudu]

Did anyone post that jets hype
Video yet?

I’m ready to put on a sports bra and some cleats

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CrjkHpoP0t7/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

[MR.GANGGREEN28]

One telltale sign of success is improvement. JD drafted 2 ROTYs last year and if he doesn’t draft 3 this year it will be a disappointment IMHO.

[playtowinthegame]

Jaxon Smith-Njigba dressing to impress. Thought Garrett Wilson woulda loaned him the pearls. 

[GreenFish]

1 minute ago, #27TheDominator said:

Me too, but not until day 3. 

Oh definitely. I think a 4th gets it done.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

14 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said:

Why? What's so special about him vs any other veteran receiver?  He was suspended for PEDs.  For that I'd say maybe he deserves a rookie QB at the end of his career.

Oh no. He must be a terrible human being ?