playtowinthegame Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: When he gave them grief for trying to buy a team and for wanting HK? What do the Jets have to do with Denver? Why does he bring the Jets up at all? Nathaniel Hackett being the HC they fired in Denver, and he's now the Jets OC with Aaron Rodgers coming here. He isn't stupid, he knows the Jets play Denver week 5. He's trying to put the blame for Denver sucking last season mostly on Hackett. He's just motivating the Jets, and I see it backfiring on him week 5 when the Jets handle their business in Denver. No kneeldowns or handshakes after this game. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: Nathaniel Hackett being the HC they fired in Denver, and he's now the Jets OC with Aaron Rodgers coming here. He isn't stupid, he knows the Jets play Denver week 5. He's trying to put the blame for Denver sucking last season mostly on Hackett. He's just motivating the Jets, and I see it backfiring on him week 5 when the Jets handle their business in Denver. No kneeldowns or handshakes after this game. That’s fine, he can complain Hackett was a bad HC. Not a startling revelation. Even forgetting he’s not the Jets HC. Where he went off the tracks was complaining about how the Jets are doing their business. Whining that the Jets are on HK as if it was their choice, complaing about building a dream team. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 14 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 23 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: Nathaniel Hackett being the HC they fired in Denver, and he's now the Jets OC with Aaron Rodgers coming here. He isn't stupid, he knows the Jets play Denver week 5. He's trying to put the blame for Denver sucking last season mostly on Hackett. He's just motivating the Jets, and I see it backfiring on him week 5 when the Jets handle their business in Denver. No kneeldowns or handshakes after this game. I don’t get why he would want to rattle the Jets cage. The Jets are the better team. It wasn’t just winning the offseason, what an idiot. It’s dumb making Rodgers even more motivated? He should worry about his own team. I agree he’s taking the blame off of Russ and putting it on Hackett. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: That’s fine, he can complain Hackett was a bad HC. Not a startling revelation. Even forgetting he’s not the Jets HC. Where he went off the tracks was complaining about how the Jets are doing their business. Whining that the Jets are on HK as if it was their choice, complaing about building a dream team. I can't wait for next season to start. We'll get to see if Russell Wilson is going to start "cooking" in Denver with Sean Payton like he did in Seattle with Pete Carroll. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Interesting broncos fans were fired up yesterday but it seems to have sunk in with them that this was an unforced error 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 16 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: That’s fine, he can complain Hackett was a bad HC. Not a startling revelation. Even forgetting he’s not the Jets HC. Where he went off the tracks was complaining about how the Jets are doing their business. Whining that the Jets are on HK as if it was their choice, complaing about building a dream team. I think it's all calculated - Denver had tons of hype last year, not quite "dream team" hype, but certainly media darlings. @ the start of training camp, I think Payton is letting his team (and the organization) know that this year, it's back to basics and "we don't care about headlines" etc. Also think a lot of this is about rebuilding Russ's confidence - "it wasn't his fault" - etc. I just don't see why we care, we're going to be good despite Hard Knocks and our superstar QB just gave us back $35M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, RedBeardedSavage said: I think it's all calculated - Denver had tons of hype last year, not quite "dream team" hype, but certainly media darlings. @ the start of training camp, I think Payton is letting his team (and the organization) know that this year, it's back to basics and "we don't care about headlines" etc. Also think a lot of this is about rebuilding Russ's confidence - "it wasn't his fault" - etc. I just don't see why we care, we're going to be good despite Hard Knocks and our superstar QB just gave us back $35M. That’s all fine but the Jets org has nothing to do with Russ and any confidence issue. Jets on HK has nothing to do with Russ. Hackett? He’s not the Jets. Payton’s going to have a hard time with Russ, he was as bad at his job as Hackett was as a HC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 18 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: I can't wait for next season to start. We'll get to see if Russell Wilson is going to start "cooking" in Denver with Sean Payton like he did in Seattle with Pete Carroll. Funny they were showing Wilson sitting over C and not calling for the snap until the last second and blaming Hackett. But when he does get the ball he sails it over the receiver in the flat, worse than a Zack miss. It wasn’t just Hack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 I don't know how any Jets fan can defend nate Hackett Besides being Paul's son, he really was terrible last year. He didn't call the plays when Rodgers won those mvp. Aaron loves him the same way kids love a babysitter that feeds them candy Nate Hackett is legitimately bad. Not an upgrade over MLF Payton is like walter in lebowski he's not wrong but he is an a$$hole And Billy Turner is done as a player 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 11 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: That’s all fine but the Jets org has nothing to do with Russ and any confidence issue. Jets on HK has nothing to do with Russ. Hackett? He’s not the Jets. Payton’s going to have a hard time with Russ, he was as bad at his job as Hackett was as a HC I think we're just this year's easy reference point or stand-in for the "hyped team". And I agree, Russ is done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, bitonti said: I don't know how any Jets fan can defend nate Hackett Besides being Paul's son, he really was terrible last year. He didn't call the plays when Rodgers won those mvp. Aaron loves him the same way kids love a babysitter that feeds them candy Nate Hackett is legitimately bad. Not an upgrade over MLF Payton is like walter in lebowski he's not wrong but he is an a$$hole And Billy Turner is done as a player He’s not the HC here. Rodger won’t need a scape goat like Russ needs. Using what he did as a HC to compare him to MLF as an OC is pointless. What has MLF done as an OC? Who in their right mind will defend him? Dumbest complaint is he sucks because he’s Paul’s son. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mphtrilogy Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Some folks aren't made out to be a HC, classless to throw a fellow coach under the buss. Should be a fun week 5. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Herm Edwards of Al people just like never seen a coach do this. You don't do this. Blast the ex coach. Yeah pretty much everyone things it was dumb Thing is Sean Peyton has done a whole lot of losing with our drew Brees. And I don't think Hackett is the only reason den didn't have a good season. Brah. The QB sucked! He was playing like Zach Wilson. No coach was going to do good in Denver. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Yes, Hackett really messed up on this play...poor Russ such the victim... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 i am incredibly triggered by the Payton fan club coming out of every hole on twitter with the "Payton doesn't do anything without intention" takes. what does that even mean? the guy threw a fellow coach on the train tracks...even if it was to make his over the hill QB feel better. It's just so gross all around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 They are gonna do a bunch of Taysom Hill style BS in week 5 and Saleh / Ulbrich will be caught totally off guard Regardless, that is virtually a must-win game given the difficulty of the other early season games 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 1 hour ago, bitonti said: I don't know how any Jets fan can defend nate Hackett Besides being Paul's son, he really was terrible last year. He didn't call the plays when Rodgers won those mvp. Aaron loves him the same way kids love a babysitter that feeds them candy Nate Hackett is legitimately bad. Not an upgrade over MLF Payton is like walter in lebowski he's not wrong but he is an a$$hole And Billy Turner is done as a player It's un-American to tie Nate's failure to his father's failure. He deserves to be labelled a failure based soley on his body of work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Biggs said: It's un-American to tie Nate's failure to his father's failure. He deserves to be labelled a failure based soley on his body of work. Perhaps. But his body of work is historically terrible too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 14 minutes ago, k-met57 said: i am incredibly triggered by the Payton fan club coming out of every hole on twitter with the "Payton doesn't do anything without intention" takes. what does that even mean? the guy threw a fellow coach on the train tracks...even if it was to make his over the hill QB feel better. It's just so gross all around. I live in Denver. I think Russ is done, but I can't deny that Hackett was absolutely terrible here. Payton has to go full Oppenheimer on the culture. He probably got a bit carried away bringing our team into it, but I just don't see the criticism of Hackett's tenure here as anything but factual. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Jet Nut said: Dumbest complaint is he sucks because he’s Paul’s son. When a prospect has a father who was a player it's a good thing. Notre Dame tackle Joe alt is the son of Kansas city lineman John alt. That's legacy, genetics and also what the kid learned Meanwhile Both Hackett are terrible coaches. Father and son both bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvill 51 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 16 minutes ago, k-met57 said: i am incredibly triggered by the Payton fan club coming out of every hole on twitter with the "Payton doesn't do anything without intention" takes. what does that even mean? the guy threw a fellow coach on the train tracks...even if it was to make his over the hill QB feel better. It's just so gross all around. The responses are too orchestrated to be anything other than after the fact spin. Honestly, Payton’s quotes sound more like he had a few too many and started spouting off than some kind of grand plan. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 17 minutes ago, RedBeardedSavage said: I live in Denver. I think Russ is done, but I can't deny that Hackett was absolutely terrible here. Payton has to go full Oppenheimer on the culture. He probably got a bit carried away bringing our team into it, but I just don't see the criticism of Hackett's tenure here as anything but factual. i get that, but there are things you don't say. maybe Payton has reached a point in his life where he just says whatever he wants, but coaching is a fraternity and what he did was low-brow garbage. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 12 minutes ago, jvill 51 said: The responses are too orchestrated to be anything other than after the fact spin. Honestly, Payton’s quotes sound more like he had a few too many and started spouting off than some kind of grand plan. you missed one lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facts Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Jet Nut said: No, you’ll pay me when Saleh is still the HC I was just trying to help out @Maxman, but if you want the money yourself, that's fine. We can both transfer $250 to Escrow.com to act as the mediating agent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 23 minutes ago, k-met57 said: you missed one lol This is a bad spin. The assumption was already that Denver collapsed because of Hackett. Payton’s comments now put the spotlight on Wilson. He has to play well after these comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 17 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 15 hours ago, nj meadowlands said: I love that the players are pissed. They’re not the only one pissed. This is my daughter when she read his comments 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 2 hours ago, RedBeardedSavage said: I live in Denver. I think Russ is done, but I can't deny that Hackett was absolutely terrible here. Payton has to go full Oppenheimer on the culture. He probably got a bit carried away bringing our team into it, but I just don't see the criticism of Hackett's tenure here as anything but factual. It is remarkable how good Russ was in Seattle and how inept he looked most of last season. To what extent does a HC / OC even have the ability to make a "great" player look like a complete JAG? In soccer or basketball, nobody would buy this as an excuse. Unrelated but: I was at the Denver game and can say this: Zach Wilson should never play another down for the NYJ. Brett Rypien was the better QB that day. Wilson was wild and lost, pancking at the slightest whiff of pressure, the entire day. Best thing he did was hand the ball off to Breece for a 60+ yard TD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 12 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: It is remarkable how good Russ was in Seattle and how inept he looked most of last season. To what extent does a HC / OC even have the ability to make a "great" player look like a complete JAG? In soccer or basketball, nobody would buy this as an excuse. Unrelated but: I was at the Denver game and can say this: Zach Wilson should never play another down for the NYJ. Brett Rypien was the better QB that day. Wilson was wild and lost, pancking at the slightest whiff of pressure, the entire day. Best thing he did was hand the ball off to Breece for a 60+ yard TD. Russ came up in seattle, he grew there, he knew how things worked. Russ was never the guy you "put in any system" and certainly not that guy after his head blew up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowles Movement Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 On 7/27/2023 at 9:46 AM, Zachtomims47 said: Jets play Broncos week 5. Buckle up. Funny Wilson was missing wide open receivers last year- not sure how that is Hacketts fault. If Wilson doesnt have a great year this year, what is Payton going to say? That he was horribly coached? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowles Movement Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 2 hours ago, k-met57 said: i get that, but there are things you don't say. maybe Payton has reached a point in his life where he just says whatever he wants, but coaching is a fraternity and what he did was low-brow garbage. Herm Edwards was just on TV and said exactly this. “Really disappointed”. “ Serves no one”. “ Gave the Jets bulletin board material”. I really want to see the Jets blow them out in front of their fans now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Dialing it back already... I guess he should've played better chess with his intentional actions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Now he’s trying to apologize lol .. sorry damage is already done 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 It wasn’t just bad from a motivational perspective. It was a deuchy thing to say. entirely unnecessary to publicly attack another person like that. Seemed unprovoked and unworthy of an NFL HC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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