Jets Panthers game day thread..... Beautiful downtown Charlotte NC

[DoubleDown]

Nice half for Zach. He's getting the ball out noticeably faster.

Progress.

[win4ever]

10 minutes ago, carlito1171 said:

This is the part that will always hold him back I believe….

Yeah, I could see it be an issue for a rookie or even second year guy, but by now he needs to be better.  At least he ended his day on a good note.  

I'll probably actually go do some work instead of watching Tim Boyle trying to hit people sitting on the bench.

[fltflo]

Not to be to critical, but did that last throw to the end zone for a touchdown looked very shaky


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[Jetsfan80]

1 minute ago, bostonmajet said:

Granted it is just preseason, but the D looks legit. ZW looks much improved, but it is hard to get too excited considering who he is playing against. OL looks like crap. We will need to do a lot of misdirection to protect the QB.

6.15 YPA is “much improved” for Zach?

Ok maybe for his standards.  

[bostonmajet]

Just now, Jet Blast said:

I want to see this cap space used where it is really needed. Beef up the O-line.

If they aren't going to beef up the OL they will need to save the cap space to keep signing QBs.

[Jetsfan80]

Just now, fltflo said:

Not to be to critical, but did that last throw to the end zone for a touchdown looked very shaky


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Took him forever to see a wide open Yeboah and make the throw.

Even his TDs are unimpressive.

[Hal]

Boring boring normal preseason football.  Maybe pump the brakes “zAcH Iz nOt a qB 2” guys lol.  
 

 

[frankiepapa]

Not to be to critical, but did that last throw to the end zone for a touchdown looked very shaky


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Looked a bit late, but we're not on the field

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[SCRUNO]

Just seeing Rodgers on the sideline smiling and high fiving guys makes this team feel so different. Saleh seems like the assistant coach. Which is good. Tired of the slogans. 

[SackExchangeNYJ]

Is Wilson ready to be a starter for a team that wants to compete for a title? Obviously no. He still has a lot of progress to make.

Has he made strides so far this preseason? Absolutely. He is showing that right now, he can be more than a capable backup. And his numbers show it.

[Hal]

Just now, Jetsfan80 said:

Took him forever to see a wide open Yeboah and make the throw.

Even his TDs are unimpressive.

[neckdemon]

This is the type of potential pass rush that closes games the f*ck out!!

[Greg555]

I thought it was a solid half for Zach.  Lot of detractors here…I see.

[win4ever]

My only problem with the defense is JJ wearing No. 11.  I keep thinking Denzel Mims is running out there. 

[bostonmajet]

2 minutes ago, DoubleDown said:

Nice half for Zach. He's getting the ball out noticeably faster.

Progress.

I think it is fair to say that ZW has looks much better this year. Does that mean he will be a successful starter some day? No, but ZW could have not improved or regressed - he has clearly worked hard to improve. Sure it is against #2/#3 defense, but more of a reason for him to show improvement - all you can really ask.

Hate him or love to hate him. The best thing he could do is improve and he clearly has. Is it enough, hard to tell. Will he look improved against real defenses? it is also hard to tell.

[Irish Jet]

Is that the Panthers starting OL?

Either they are really that bad and Young is gonna die or the Jets pass rush will be special. Or both.

[TBJ]

3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

6.15 YPA is “much improved” for Zach?

Ok maybe for his standards.  

3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Took him forever to see a wide open Yeboah and make the throw.

Even his TDs are unimpressive.

I'll have you know, I am very offended by these comments.

[SickJetFan]

3 minutes ago, Hal said:

Boring boring normal preseason football.  Maybe pump the brakes “zAcH Iz nOt a qB 2” guys lol.  
 

 

well the the hope (by me anyway) was he plays lights out and shows he is deserving of a starting gig somewhere.  He is not getting 2nd contract in NY so our best hope is he plays well enough for some team to take a chance on him.

That is the part that is not looking to promising - this season anyway.

[mrcoops]

We have too many good TEs. Yeboah deserves to be on the team. Kuntz looks good and has big upside. Doubt we can keep them both.

[SackExchangeNYJ]

1 minute ago, bostonmajet said:

I think it is fair to say that ZW has looks much better this year. Does that mean he will be a successful starter some day? No, but ZW could have not improved or regressed - he has clearly worked hard to improve. Sure it is against #2/#3 defense, but more of a reason for him to show improvement - all you can really ask.

Hate him or love to hate him. The best thing he could do is improve and he clearly has. Is it enough, hard to tell. Will he look improved against real defenses? it is also hard to tell.

A completely reasonable assessment of where ZW is at this point.

Duck.

[Hal]

1 minute ago, TBJ said:

I'll have you know, I am very offended by these comments.

Shocking stat with all the deep shots they took.  

[bgivs21]

21 minutes ago, SackExchangeNYJ said:

I'm sure.  It's not like I played OL from the time I was 5 through college, and then coached it for years afterward.

Clearly not, to come up with that ridiculous analysis. 

[T0mShane]

Pretty good sign that the OL and DL met the Panthers physicality this game. Supposedly, they were being pushed around in that joint practice. Would have been a bad sign if they took it in the face today. 
 

Also like Todd Downing incorporating some of that Titans/Tannehill waggle game for Zach. Just let him sprint out and target one dude on the move. 

[Sarge4Tide]

In the 2nd half on defense, we should see a lot of 2 DE/Edge types

Pita Taumoepenu - XFL Defensive MVP

Ife Odenigbo - journeyman Vet who played really well last week vs Cleveland

 

[doitny]

4 minutes ago, Hal said:

Boring boring normal preseason football.  Maybe pump the brakes “zAcH Iz nOt a qB 2” guys lol.  
 

 

oh the numbers look fine but if you watched the game it wasnt anything to get excited over.

he didnt complete a pass over 10 yards. yeah in a preseason game he can get away with that but when its for real they will take that short pass away like they did last year. 

being 0 for whatever over 10 yards sucks. 

 

[Joe W. Namath]

Breece and Abanakanda = Bo Jackson and Marcus Allen

[Vudu]

Defense looks amazing

[T0mShane]

4 minutes ago, bostonmajet said:

I think it is fair to say that ZW has looks much better this year. Does that mean he will be a successful starter some day? No, but ZW could have not improved or regressed - he has clearly worked hard to improve. Sure it is against #2/#3 defense, but more of a reason for him to show improvement - all you can really ask.

Hate him or love to hate him. The best thing he could do is improve and he clearly has. Is it enough, hard to tell. Will he look improved against real defenses? it is also hard to tell.

I think it’ll be important to find a handful of remedial plays that he can run in case of Rodgers missing a game or two.

[Bungaman]

Lol  - I am forced to listen to the Panthers TV guys, and it was comical to hear them blame the Panthers` only 2 first downs, no 3rd downs converted,  and -1 yards rushing on their "losing the time of possession " battle. 

[Sarge4Tide]

UDFA LB Caleb Johnson playing well on ST and D so far

[BCJet]

20 minutes ago, kdels62 said:

Here’s the question:

Do we really need Carl Lawson, JFM, JJ, Huff, McDonald, and Clemons? 

Lawson, JFM and Huff can pobably get a nice return in a trade

This is an excellent question and I guarantee teams are looking at Huff as tradeable.  He is an elite edge rusher on a per rush basis and is on a reasonable one year contract.

The counter argument though is that  keeping all of them allows us to bring McDonald along slowly.  I get that people want instant results from these first rounders but these guys go through a full college season, then traveling to meet teams while prepping for the combine, then OTA, then TC and essentially double their college season all in one year.  Its a lot on their bodies and I really think bringing guys along slowly is really important for their long term development and health.  

It would be interesting to see if there is a team that has a rookie OT that is doing well and could swap out a veteran OT for pass rush help - could be an interesting scenario for sure.

[SackExchangeNYJ]

Infuriating to see uneducated fans say false things about other posters they don't know. Typical, but infuriating.

[Sarge4Tide]

UDFA Deslin Alexandre from Pitt with a nice spin move 

[Jet Nut]

2 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

 

He was supposed to eat 20-25 ginger snaps during the game.

 

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[UntouchableCrew]

Unclear if he’s just tooling on backups but Jermaine Johnson looks good — much improved. He’s dropped weight and looks faster.