Daniel Jeremiah has us trading up for Marvin Harrison JR

[greenwichjetfan]

21 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

"He's Randy and Megatron and Julio as a prospect."   This seems to be pretty close to saying he is in their class.

I’ll stand by what I said. He is them as a prospect - he’s a can’t miss who is playing for the HOF as opposed to other 1st round WR prospects who are not can’t miss and are just playing for solid careers.

I never once intimated or explicitly stated that anyone is on Randy or Megatron’s level. Hell, even Julio is a peg beneath those two. 

[83Kelly2Allen18]

39 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

I think Tyreek has entered this conversation personally now that he is able to do it with a JAG at QB as well something Randy could not do in Oakland.

He's close. But I would take Randy and not think twice 

[Rhg1084]

26 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Non comparative vs other WRs.

Running away from a 4.55 cb from Indiana is not that telling.

 

they clocked him at over 22 MPH in a game. What other info do you need?

[Jetsfan80]

30 minutes ago, Claymation said:

Big picture? Fans have no control over the outcome of the game. None.

Whether they are happy or sad, it means a hill of beans. If I rooted against the Jets or for them, it makes no difference because there is no football god. Its up to the coaches and the players, and they are playing for the next contract. They don't care that the Jets have brought me misery for 50 plus years. They want a job next season playing in the NFL.

Tanking efforts are front office driven, not coach/player driven.  Easiest way to do this is to fire a HC midseason and instruct the interim coach to play only the young guys.

Woody has never fired a HC midseason in his tenure.

I feel like this has been explained about 80 times on this board.  

[FootballLove]

48 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

Especially considering the Jets were not supposed to have this 1st round pick and 100% would have used the 2nd on a WR this year if Rodgers doesn’t get hurt.

Exactly...

There's no such thing as 'too much talent'!

We can't forget how Brandon Marshall transformed our offense. Or how Randy Moss transformed the Pats offense into the record books.

Don't care who our QB is going forward, they will ALL appreciate world class weapons! Get 'er done Joe!

[Jetsfan80]

44 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Generational = once in a generation.   Is he going to be better than justin jefferson, jamar chase ?   Tyreek hill?   Cee dee lamb?  AJ Brown?

I'll believe it when I see it.

Yeah, probably better than Jefferson, Lamb and Brown.

[Smashmouth]

8 hours ago, Augustiniak said:

So we’re giving up next years’ 1 for a wr?

Who cares about next years 1 if we get MH Jr Think about this for a sec Williams, MH and GW with Breece and Rodgers . 

If we have all that fire power this team will be picking in the late first so why not give up that late first for a stud WR like Harrison since after this year Williams might move on and then we have Harrion for the next 4 years to 5 years after that along side Garrett. Makes sense to me its not like we are starting a rebuild and NEED to trade back to accumulate picks

[Smashmouth]

59 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Yeah, probably better than Jefferson, Lamb and Brown.

He does not have to be better than those guys it about the offense in general we will have an absolute stud at every level of the offense

[Matt39]

I’ve seen some recent hesitations regarding Harrison- just the latest one I saw today

 

is he running at his pro day? You’d like to see the speed. 

[83Kelly2Allen18]

We are overthinking this. 

You simply take one of

Harrison, Nabers, Odunze, Bowers, Thomas

 

One or two will be available. Take the best elite weapon. 

[jetstream23]

10 hours ago, Untouchable said:

It’s kind of a stupid move but I can’t deny that I would be psyched about it.

 

10 hours ago, Augustiniak said:

So we’re giving up next years’ 1 for a wr?

 

It's kinda like taking your entire paycheck to the casino and dropping it on Black an hour after you punch-out of work on a Friday.

But hey, I've done worse.

[jetstream23]

3 minutes ago, 83Kelly2Allen18 said:

We are overthinking this. 

You simply take one of

Harrison, Nabers, Odunze, Bowers, Thomas

 

One or two will be available. Take the best elite weapon. 

Is Thomas really worth the #10?

[Augustiniak]

4 minutes ago, 83Kelly2Allen18 said:

We are overthinking this. 

You simply take one of

Harrison, Nabers, Odunze, Bowers, Thomas

 

One or two will be available. Take the best elite weapon. 

I really doubt bowers is the pick.  He doesn’t stretch the field and it’s not a premium position and that’s not how douglas has drafted in round 1.  I do think thomas is a top 10 pick in other drafts that won’t have 4 qbs and maybe 3 other wrs going in the top 10.  

[CanadaSteve]

4 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

No, just stop winning meaningless December games EVERY f**king time we are in the midst of a lost season would be a nice start.  The Jets have been pulling this sh*t every few seasons for nearly 2 decades.

Yup....Professional athletes should just lose when it is convenient.

Clearly, you haven't played pro sports!

[Jetsfan80]

2 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said:

Yup....Professional athletes should just lose when it is convenient.

Clearly, you haven't played pro sports!

For the 8,567th time, tanks are front office driven.  They can, and do, happen in pro sports no matter how much you want to scream that it doesn’t.  

It isn’t the players or coaches trying to lose, and no one ever has argued that they do.  It’s the GM who makes it happen by putting the team in position to do so.

[83Kelly2Allen18]

51 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

I really doubt bowers is the pick.  He doesn’t stretch the field and it’s not a premium position and that’s not how douglas has drafted in round 1.  I do think thomas is a top 10 pick in other drafts that won’t have 4 qbs and maybe 3 other wrs going in the top 10.  

I mean you can't get upset at Thomas . Dude has insane traits 

[83Kelly2Allen18]

55 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

Is Thomas really worth the #10?

Yes. 

[Augustiniak]

1 minute ago, 83Kelly2Allen18 said:

I mean you can't get upset at Thomas . Dude has insane traits 

I think thomas isn’t getting enough love b/c of the other top wrs.  But a guy like mhj doesn’t come out every year, nabers is a garrett clone and rome is a true #1 wr.  And then there’s BTJ, who gets ranked in the 12-18 range of overall prospects b/c of the strength of the qbs and OTs.  But if the jets took him I’d be ok with that.  It’s been a long time since the jets had multiple weapons and mike Williams may not be here more than a season anyway. 

[Claymation]

4 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Tanking efforts are front office driven, not coach/player driven.  Easiest way to do this is to fire a HC midseason and instruct the interim coach to play only the young guys.

Woody has never fired a HC midseason in his tenure.

I feel like this has been explained about 80 times on this board.  

What does this have to do with fans wanting to watch their team win? Shesh

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

1 hour ago, Matt39 said:

I’ve seen some recent hesitations regarding Harrison- just the latest one I saw today

 

is he running at his pro day? You’d like to see the speed. 

We’ll find out tomorrow but I mean…he’s fast. You see it during the games lol. 

[Jetsfan80]

6 hours ago, Claymation said:

What does this have to do with fans wanting to watch their team win? Shesh

A lot.  Jets fans who find a 6-win season far more palatable than a 2-win season impact Woody Johnson’s thinking (or lack thereof).  

[Dunnie]

+"what happens when there is a month left before the draft for $200 Alex ... I mean Aaron"

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[Barry McCockinner]

3 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

A lot.  Jets fans who find a 6-win season far more palatable than a 2-win season impact Woody Johnson’s thinking (or lack thereof).  

[Claymation]

4 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

A lot.  Jets fans who find a 6-win season far more palatable than a 2-win season impact Woody Johnson’s thinking (or lack thereof).  

[Matt39]

Yikes

[Dunnie]

Yikes

Maybe he miraculously drops to 10 .. can you envisions this board if JD actually passed on MHJ at 10 ... Would be worth the price of admission and then some.

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[Jetsfan80]

19 minutes ago, Claymation said:

Keep thinking teams never tank bud.  

[Jethead]

Trade up for 1st WR pick. Take the one you want most. If the Jets could do that for next year's #2, I'm all in!

[Claymation]

9 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Keep thinking teams never tank bud.  

Never said that, but to think that fans have an impact on the outcome of a game is..well...absurd.

By all means, caring on with your tin foil theories.

[Jets723]

6 minutes ago, Jethead said:

Trade up for 1st WR pick. Take the one you want most. If the Jets could do that for next year's #2, I'm all in!

This class is deep.  No need to trade up.  Hell we could slide back and still get a damn good receiver 

[Jetsfan80]

2 minutes ago, Claymation said:

Never said that, but to think that fans have an impact on the outcome of a game is..well...absurd.

By all means, caring on with your tin foil theories.

Whether they do or do not I don’t care as much.  What I do care about is the fans who think meaningless wins in December matter when year after year the proof is that they don’t.  This is a message board so yeah it annoys me reading that particular dumb opinion for nearly 2 decades when we’ve seen tangible evidence it hurts far more than helps.  

But you go right ahead and treat every win as a good thing in every situation if it makes ya happy.  

[Claymation]

1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Whether they do or do not I don’t care as much.  What I do care about is the fans who think meaningless wins in December matter when year after year the proof is that they don’t.  This is a message board so yeah it annoys me reading that particular dumb opinion for nearly 2 decades when we’ve seen tangible evidence it hurts far more than helps.  

But you go right ahead and treat every win as a good thing in every situation if it makes ya happy.  

So you are annoyed by fans being fans? 

[Jetsfan80]

2 minutes ago, Claymation said:

So you are annoyed by fans being fans? 

I’m annoyed by people who have no grasp of nuance.  

[Dcat]

12 hours ago, Augustiniak said:

I really doubt bowers is the pick.  He doesn’t stretch the field and it’s not a premium position and that’s not how douglas has drafted in round 1.  I do think thomas is a top 10 pick in other drafts that won’t have 4 qbs and maybe 3 other wrs going in the top 10.  

Bowers' separation looks great on tape but those were college defenses.  It will have a whole different look in the NFL.  Love the prospect.  But not for Jets at #10.  There will be better value and Jets have greater needs.

[Smashmouth]

12 hours ago, Matt39 said:

I’ve seen some recent hesitations regarding Harrison- just the latest one I saw today

 

is he running at his pro day? You’d like to see the speed. 

We want football players not track stars