Cyberjet Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 12 hours ago, hmhertz said: According to the receiver coach of LSU, BT is super smart. You tell him once and he performs it exactly how I wanted it Interesting definition of super smart 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 These rankings are near meaningless in an absolute sense. Wasn’t Surtain or stingley ahead of sauce? Good corners but sauce is better. Or what about wrs that went ahead of gWilson? I don’t think anyone would make the swap now. IMO these rankings put players into tiers where just about anyone in the top tier can become the no 1 guy in the nfl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 15 hours ago, Plen T said: He was right though This schtick is old. Dude is trash, garbage, a Josh Rosen/JaMarcus Russell level of failure. Stop it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 I prefer Nabers too. mostly because the top receiver prospect rarely becomes the best pro. Playing the odds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUE GREEN Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 15 hours ago, usapaw said: I'm still waiting on his "Best TE in the draft" to emerge. Ruckert. How can he emerge when he is on a team that offensively does not develop talent. Everyone got Zach Wrong or did they? if Zach goes to San Fran would he really have been that horrible. I mean I think at this point he is washed.. but how much of that was what we put him through... I never liked Zach but I cannot put this all on him (SEE GENO SMITH). That said Ruckert has not been given enough of shot on an offense that is developed enough to get the ball to the TE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 minute ago, TRUE GREEN said: How can he emerge when he is on a team that offensively does not develop talent. Everyone got Zach Wrong or did they? if Zach goes to San Fran would he really have been that horrible. I mean I think at this point he is washed.. but how much of that was what we put him through... I never liked Zach but I cannot put this all on him (SEE GENO SMITH). That said Ruckert has not been given enough of shot on an offense that is developed enough to get the ball to the TE. San Fran also drafted a bust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 MHJ: 3rd Jets WR Duo: 3rd Is MHJ the Jets' density? #BakhToTheFuture 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUE GREEN Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 On 3/20/2024 at 9:29 AM, rangerous said: These rankings are near meaningless in an absolute sense. Wasn’t Surtain or stingley ahead of sauce? Good corners but sauce is better. Or what about wrs that went ahead of Wilson? I don’t think anyone would make the swap now. IMO these rankings put players into tiers where just about anyone in the top tier can become the no 1 guy in the nfl. Agreed. Too much weight is placed on the wrong measurables... what about the Work Ethic, Passion and Time spent in the film room. Two wide receivers to watch next year IMO Keon Coleman and Ricky Pearsall. Love their hands, route running and game speed. Forget the 40 yd run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 minute ago, TRUE GREEN said: How can he emerge when he is on a team that offensively does not develop talent. Everyone got Zach Wrong or did they? if Zach goes to San Fran would he really have been that horrible. I mean I think at this point he is washed.. but how much of that was what we put him through... I never liked Zach but I cannot put this all on him (SEE GENO SMITH). That said Ruckert has not been given enough of shot on an offense that is developed enough to get the ball to the TE. Did Geno even really play well last year? <4,000 yards, 20 TD's, 9 INTs. Idk, if Zach has a 2022 Geno season @ 30 and says "Joseph Smith once said"'thy shall never writeth back" should we care? He got most of three years and nearly every backup we played when he was hurt/benched outperformed him with the same roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 14 minutes ago, TRUE GREEN said: Agreed. Too much weight is placed on the wrong measurables... what about the Work Ethic, Passion and Time spent in the film room. Two wide receivers to watch next year IMO Keon Coleman and Ricky Pearsall. Love their hands, route running and game speed. Forget the 40 yd run. @The Crusher #MoreMeanThanFunny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 On 3/19/2024 at 9:20 PM, Barry McCockinner said: MHJ is like the pure uncut Columbian cocaine of WR prospects. I honestly don't understand all the people trying to knock him down all of the sudden. Not to take away from the other wr prospects but I don't see them as on the same level. Barry u r parroting if his name was bob smith instead of mhj hed be a second rounder. yes, i said this in the other thread 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 21 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: @The Crusher #MoreMeanThanFunny LOL, Well played. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 54 minutes ago, TRUE GREEN said: Agreed. Too much weight is placed on the wrong measurables... what about the Work Ethic, Passion and Time spent in the film room. Two wide receivers to watch next year IMO Keon Coleman and Ricky Pearsall. Love their hands, route running and game speed. Forget the 40 yd run. By definition work ethic, passion and time spent in the film room are not measurables. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 37 minutes ago, HighPitch said: Barry u r parroting if his name was bob smith instead of mhj hed be a second rounder. yes, i said this in the other thread Have you even watched the guy play? Can you name who played QB for Ohio State last year without looking it up? I like Legette. Do you want to argue he's better than MHJ because college stats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballLove Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Ya, Simms not always right, but he's one of the very few that actually watches film and gives his best opinion. Versus just re-packaging what other 'experts' say. Kinda like everyone on here 🤣 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballLove Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Chris Simms 'Unbuttoned' is a weird name for a podcast for someone who NEVER un-buttons his shirt, even a little. He even keeps the top button buttoned w/o wearing a tie. LOSER!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Ya, Simms not always right, but he's one of the very few that actually watches film and gives his best opinion. Versus just re-packaging what other 'experts' say. Kinda like everyone on here Totally agree ... I regurgitate the sh*t out of an amalgam of sources ... I definitely don't study college film and only have seen most of these guys in a handful of games.Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said: Have you even watched the guy play? Can you name who played QB for Ohio State last year without looking it up? I like Legette. Do you want to argue he's better than MHJ because college stats? As i said in the other thread, no i havent watched him play other that the highlight vids. yes the mcdermott kid or mcsomething all i am saying is i took it for granted that he was the next best thing but was surprised with the stat comparison. Ppl on this board have already mention the hof and “ red jacket” and the kid isnt even drafted yet. Then i find stats that rank him at 10. you dont find that interesting? I hope @warfish is proud of my data 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 It's silly season. Harrison is an absolute stud. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 On 3/19/2024 at 7:01 PM, doitny said: so he hit with everyone but Zach....lol He didn’t just whiff on Zach he called him generational. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 19 hours ago, DoubleDown said: It's silly season. Harrison is an absolute stud. Chris trying to be the smartest guy in the room again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaconJet Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 20 hours ago, HighPitch said: As i said in the other thread, no i havent watched him play other that the highlight vids. yes the mcdermott kid or mcsomething all i am saying is i took it for granted that he was the next best thing but was surprised with the stat comparison. Ppl on this board have already mention the hof and “ red jacket” and the kid isnt even drafted yet. Then i find stats that rank him at 10. you dont find that interesting? I hope @warfish is proud of my data So the stat you're quoting is one that has him 10th because he had less total yards than the other 9 guys, simply because he played less games, had less targets and thus less catches, in the Ohio State system? His YPC was as high or higher than anyone else on that list and he had the most TDs. He won the Biletnikoff Award. Won the Richter–Howard Receiver of the Year award the year before. MHJ is a stud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 On 3/19/2024 at 8:35 PM, Green Ghost said: Other than Zach, he’s been the best with QBs Yeah, a hell of a lot better than hit or miss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 On 3/21/2024 at 7:56 PM, HighPitch said: Barry u r parroting if his name was bob smith instead of mhj hed be a second rounder. yes, i said this in the other thread More over the top, ridiculous thinking to make your point. If his name was HighPitch he’s still a top of the 1st pick. Fun fact, talent of WRs isn’t set in order via yardage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 On 3/21/2024 at 6:21 PM, FootballLove said: Ya, Simms not always right, but he's one of the very few that actually watches film and gives his best opinion. Versus just re-packaging what other 'experts' say. Kinda like everyone on here 🤣 I find it nearly impossible to believe Chris Simms has watched more than 5 mins of film since retiring from the NFL 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 2 hours ago, Jet Nut said: More over the top, ridiculous thinking to make your point. If his name was HighPitch he’s still a top of the 1st pick. Fun fact, talent of WRs isn’t set in order via yardage. Fair enough but goof all you want, the stats are factual whether you like it or not. mhj, breaking down the stats and adjusting for games played, is maybe the #3 or #4 wr. And thats good! But there are at least a half dozen posters here that have literally posted about him being SO good, the he might up in the hall of fame. so believe what you want. Neither one of us knows what the future holds. But being that im smarter and more rational than you, I’m pretty sure I am right. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpinjoe Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 On 3/19/2024 at 8:38 PM, hmhertz said: Anyone taking Odunze over BT, is nuts. Brian Thomas has the ability to make Wilson a two. An injured Williams is not my cup of tea. We need an explosive receiver and that's what Thomas is Good to see you posting, Henry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsfan56 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 I don’t know anything but after watching Wilson and Olave I think I might buy what the receiver coach at OSU is selling assuming it’s still the same guy 🤷♂️Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 On 3/21/2024 at 7:21 PM, FootballLove said: Ya, Simms not always right, but he's one of the very few that actually watches film and gives his best opinion. Versus just re-packaging what other 'experts' say. Kinda like everyone on here 🤣 Yes, Chris Simms knows more than Dan Orlovsky. So does an empty Powerade bottle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 5 hours ago, jetsfan56 said: I don’t know anything but after watching Wilson and Olave I think I might buy what the receiver coach at OSU is selling assuming it’s still the same guy 🤷♂️ Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Ohio State is where the best WRs in the country all go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 On 3/21/2024 at 7:37 PM, TRUE GREEN said: Agreed. Too much weight is placed on the wrong measurables... what about the Work Ethic, Passion and Time spent in the film room. Two wide receivers to watch next year IMO Keon Coleman and Ricky Pearsall. Love their hands, route running and game speed. Forget the 40 yd run. Coleman is Anquan Boldin 2.0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 minute ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Coleman is Anquan Boldin 2.0 I agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmhertz Posted March 23 Author Share Posted March 23 1 hour ago, Rich Thornburgh said: Ohio State is where the best WRs in the country all go. Brian Hartline is the guy that developed them 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSxWRATH™ Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 On 3/20/2024 at 6:14 AM, Dunnie said: Tbh .. that draft was ass for QBs Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Bad class or not, Wilson turned out to be the worst of the bunch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 " userid="31705"] Bad class or not, Wilson turned out to be the worst of the bunchMeh .. Fields sucks balls too ... But the worst clearly is Trey Lance... Has he started a game yet .Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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