kevinc855 Posted Tuesday at 02:22 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:22 PM This will be a huge key to Thursday night. Stevenson has over 200 yards over 2 games and is averaging a workload of at least 20 carries per game. With a LOUD Metlife Thursday night and an average QB in Jacoby Brissett, I expect to see alot of Stevenson. McDonald on the edge worrries me as he isnt know for setting the edge for the run game and just bull rushing. Saleh and Ulbrich need to scheme this out..... 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BreeceHallofFame Posted Tuesday at 02:24 PM Popular Post Share Posted Tuesday at 02:24 PM holy sh*t I never thought of that 1 1 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted Tuesday at 02:24 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:24 PM 3 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: This will be a huge key to Thursday night. Stevenson has over 200 yards over 2 games and is averaging a workload of at least 20 carries per game. With a LOUD Metlife Thursday night and an average QB in Jacoby Brissett, I expect to see alot of Stevenson. McDonald on the edge worrries me as he isnt know for setting the edge for the run game and just bull rushing. Saleh and Ulbrich need to scheme this out..... McDonald is only known for bull rushing? Kevin please you are embarrassing yourself. He had 3 sacks and 4tackles. Pretty sure couple of those tackles were for a loss. If Mosley doesn't play and Echols does pretty sure that will help. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted Tuesday at 02:29 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 02:29 PM 5 minutes ago, BreeceHallofFame said: holy sh*t I never thought of that Your welcome 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted Tuesday at 02:37 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:37 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted Tuesday at 02:42 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:42 PM 18 minutes ago, The Crusher said: McDonald is only known for bull rushing? Kevin please you are embarrassing yourself. He had 3 sacks and 4tackles. Pretty sure couple of those tackles were for a loss. If Mosley doesn't play and Echols does pretty sure that will help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted Tuesday at 02:52 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:52 PM Pretty sure Will Macdonald is “known for” jumping over cars in his spare time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted Tuesday at 02:57 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:57 PM 14 minutes ago, Claymation said: Weird huh? Look like a spin move top me. not bad for a guy known to only BULLRUSH! haha OH Kevin, he so crazy!~ 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sciond Posted Tuesday at 03:05 PM Popular Post Share Posted Tuesday at 03:05 PM If only we had Huff Now he could really stop the run He is crushing it in Philly 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted Tuesday at 03:13 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:13 PM 50 minutes ago, kevinc855 said: This will be a huge key to Thursday night. Stevenson has over 200 yards over 2 games and is averaging a workload of at least 20 carries per game. With a LOUD Metlife Thursday night and an average QB in Jacoby Brissett, I expect to see alot of Stevenson. McDonald on the edge worrries me as he isnt know for setting the edge for the run game and just bull rushing. Saleh and Ulbrich need to scheme this out..... The most important element, Jet up and be ready to heckle if they lose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted Tuesday at 03:16 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:16 PM 18 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Weird huh? Look like a spin move top me. not bad for a guy known to only BULLRUSH! haha OH Kevin, he so crazy!~ no idea where it would come from that McDonald is known for a bullrush. Maybe he had him confused w/someone else? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted Tuesday at 03:30 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:30 PM 13 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: no idea where it would come from that McDonald is known for a bullrush. Maybe he had him confused w/someone else? I mean I think I saw him kinda sorta do it while he was doing a battling top like spin move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted Tuesday at 03:40 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:40 PM 23 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: no idea where it would come from that McDonald is known for a bullrush. Maybe he had him confused w/someone else? Or he only understands football on a very superficial level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted Tuesday at 03:45 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:45 PM 4 minutes ago, JetPotato said: Or he only understands football on a very superficial level. pretzel guy? no way. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted Tuesday at 03:50 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:50 PM As long as Mosley is out, our run D is fine. If he plays, I am concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gibby Posted Tuesday at 03:55 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:55 PM Get ya pretzels ready Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted Tuesday at 04:16 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:16 PM Fortunately nothing else about the pats offense really scares me so we'll be ok just loading the box, but man our run defense needs to step up significantly compared to the first two weeks. Don't love the idea of a no name backup in week1 and a guy who was jettisoned from his last team in week 2 tearing us up. This week we're going up against a bonafide RB1 on short rest. We were supposed to be the bully defense; hopefully we see that this Thursday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Rogers Posted Tuesday at 04:22 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:22 PM My top concern is the offense actually scoring. This pats team knows what it's doing. Brissett will NOT turn the ball over and they will wear the Jets down with short plays until they can break a few long ones needed to win. Just like they grinded out the Bengals. Regardless of how we do, they will likely score 13-21 points and take a lot of game clock doing it. If the jets can get a lead and force brissett to actually try and beat them, I'm pretty sure we'll win. But the jets need to jump out the gate hot and not get sucked into a grind-out game - I'm not confident we can win one if so. The patriots will be thinking the same thing, get their noses in front and then sit back, contain the big plays and wait for mistakes. If it's a slow start this week with the usual Hackett weak early game plan, I'm very worried for this team. Where's "all gas, no brakes" when you actually need it? ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Rogers Posted Tuesday at 04:24 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:24 PM The only thing I take heart from is that Rodgers shouldn't (🤞) be falling for the type of disguised scheme bull crap our other recent QBs have in patriots games. We need him to move the ball, but even moreso to avoid mistakes. I'm a little worried about him getting strip sacked but not being fooled by coverages, at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted Tuesday at 04:30 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:30 PM 2 hours ago, kevinc855 said: This will be a huge key to Thursday night. Stevenson has over 200 yards over 2 games and is averaging a workload of at least 20 carries per game. With a LOUD Metlife Thursday night and an average QB in Jacoby Brissett, I expect to see alot of Stevenson. McDonald on the edge worrries me as he isnt know for setting the edge for the run game and just bull rushing. Saleh and Ulbrich need to scheme this out..... The reason this is a great thread for discussion is that Saleh and Ulbrich dont seem to EVER scheme things out. They play their system regardless of injuries, opponent, weather etc, and its cost us games before. With the new rules, the practice squad isnt just for young guys anymore and Im shocked they couldnt bring in Al Woods last week to get 4-5 practices under his belt and then activate him for this game. Maybe Sherwood being in there for mosley will help (it will certainly add speed) but this is a game where we need to be in a base 4-3 and bring clark down into the box instead of that ridiculous "3-safety" look we used in SF with Ashytn Davis. We will also likely be giving a decent amount of snaps to Jayln Holmes, Suratt, Mcgregor and Watts or Taylor none of whom are known as run stuffers so it will really come down to a schematic change for the defense which is scary 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted Tuesday at 04:34 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:34 PM All kidding aside, the lack of beef up front is a concern. NE wants to avoid putting the ball in the air. I'd expect a lot of heavy sets: more 12, 22, and even 13 personnel. Jets need to counter with heavier personnel in their gameday 53 or adjust tactically. Play single high or even cover 0. Load up the box and dare Brissett to take some risks down the field. Hopefully Saleh isn't a complete idiot and realizes this. Would be nice if we could see preseason beast Leonard Taylor III get a chance. Is he injured? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted Tuesday at 04:34 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:34 PM The Jets seem pedestrian so far when it comes to stopping the run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted Tuesday at 04:38 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:38 PM 2 hours ago, kevinc855 said: This will be a huge key to Thursday night. Stevenson has over 200 yards over 2 games and is averaging a workload of at least 20 carries per game. With a LOUD Metlife Thursday night and an average QB in Jacoby Brissett, I expect to see alot of Stevenson. McDonald on the edge worrries me as he isnt know for setting the edge for the run game and just bull rushing. Saleh and Ulbrich need to scheme this out..... I'm hopeful that LT III gets on the field on Thursday night. At 6'03 & 305 lbs he is big enough that he should hold up well at the point of attack, against the run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted Tuesday at 04:40 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:40 PM 12 minutes ago, BCJet said: The reason this is a great thread for discussion is that Saleh and Ulbrich dont seem to EVER scheme things out. They play their system regardless of injuries, opponent, weather etc, and its cost us games before. With the new rules, the practice squad isnt just for young guys anymore and Im shocked they couldnt bring in Al Woods last week to get 4-5 practices under his belt and then activate him for this game. Maybe Sherwood being in there for mosley will help (it will certainly add speed) but this is a game where we need to be in a base 4-3 and bring clark down into the box instead of that ridiculous "3-safety" look we used in SF with Ashytn Davis. We will also likely be giving a decent amount of snaps to Jayln Holmes, Suratt, Mcgregor and Watts or Taylor none of whom are known as run stuffers so it will really come down to a schematic change for the defense which is scary The Jets obviously have more talent, but this is actually a bad matchup for them. NE's strength offensively and playcalling lean is to their run game, which the Jets have shown an inability to stop thus far. There likely won't be a ton of sacks or INTs because NE won't throw more than 25 passes (if they can help it) and the ones they do throw will be quick game or at best short to intermediate because they have no real weapons on the outside, no deep threats. HH and the RBs will be the key targets in the passing game. I'd expect a ton of screen game and delayed screen game when they do throw the ball. NE should probably be 2-0 right now. This will not be an easy win. Unlike a Saleh-coached team, NE won't beat themselves with crushing penalties and mental errors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted Tuesday at 04:46 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:46 PM Saleh should be preaching ball security and avoiding stupid penalties all week. You know NE is going to be aggressive trying to force fumbles and trying to bait the Jets into doing something stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted Tuesday at 04:48 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:48 PM The problem is our guy only bull rushes. Or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted Tuesday at 08:30 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:30 PM 6 hours ago, kevinc855 said: This will be a huge key to Thursday night. Stevenson has over 200 yards over 2 games and is averaging a workload of at least 20 carries per game. With a LOUD Metlife Thursday night and an average QB in Jacoby Brissett, I expect to see alot of Stevenson. McDonald on the edge worrries me as he isnt know for setting the edge for the run game and just bull rushing. Saleh and Ulbrich need to scheme this out..... He is the offense. Antonio Gibson is a nice compliment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted Tuesday at 08:39 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:39 PM 3 hours ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Saleh should be preaching ball security and avoiding stupid penalties all week. You know NE is going to be aggressive trying to force fumbles and trying to bait the Jets into doing something stupid. Do you blame them? Chances are it’ll work 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted Tuesday at 08:45 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:45 PM The jets have been historiclly bad at actually scheming vs the other teams biggest threat. We 'jsut like to play our defense' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted Tuesday at 08:47 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:47 PM 4 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: As long as Mosley is out, our run D is fine. If he plays, I am concerned. Please stop. It makes me very uncomfortable to agree with you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted Tuesday at 08:51 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:51 PM Would be nice if Leonard Williams were here to clog up the middle. Was the king of pressures but not getting home but at least could use him to help stop the bleeding in the run game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted Tuesday at 08:53 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:53 PM 15 minutes ago, CanadienJetsFan said: Do you blame them? Chances are it’ll work No of course not. That’s the smart thing to do. It’s the star players coughing up the ball, too, not just scrubs. Breece and Garrett have been loose with the football, and coach cupcake Bobby is too nice of a guy to actually do anything about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted Tuesday at 08:57 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:57 PM 3 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: No of course not. That’s the smart thing to do. It’s the star players coughing up the ball, too, not just scrubs. Breece and Garrett have been loose with the football, and coach cupcake Bobby is too nice of a guy to actually do anything about it. He should super glue the ball to both of their hands. Teach them a lesson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted Tuesday at 09:21 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 09:21 PM Jets are 1-13 in their last 14 nationally televised games, last years opener the only win. They key is for the stadium to be PACKED and LOUD!!! If they win this game I’ll be very happy with 2-1. But their impressive track record speaks for itself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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