FidelioJet Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago It's just far too easy to blame this mess on the HC. If there's one person to blame it's JD. The OL is awful, the QB has been worse, you have WR's that can't get separation and RB's that can't break a tackle. This is a league about scoring points and through 5 years of Joe Douglas the Jets have been incapable of doing so. 3 9 3 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bgivs21 Posted 1 hour ago Popular Post Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, FidelioJet said: It's just far too easy to blame this mess on the HC. If there's one person to blame it's JD. The OL is awful, the QB has been worse, you have WR's that can't get separation and RB's that can't break a tackle. This is a league about scoring points and through 5 years of Joe Douglas the Jets have been incapable to doing so. JD is the last person to blame for this. The talent is there, this is on coaching. 7 2 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PS17 Posted 1 hour ago Popular Post Share Posted 1 hour ago Another incredible Fidelio take. 3 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post FidelioJet Posted 1 hour ago Author Popular Post Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, bgivs21 said: JD is the last person to blame for this. The talent is there, this is on coaching. The talent is awful. I'll even go as far as to say the only reason this team is sometimes competitive is because Saleh knows how to run a defense. 1 1 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwave81 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago For some reason t he Jets offense cannot seem to get going from the start....I just don't get it. TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT for Pete's sake. That is my beef with the COACHING both Saleh and Hackett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Remember that time we out schemed the other?! When they were totally baffled??? Me neither. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwave81 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Come to think of it, the D gets off the blocks slow too....but the O is maddening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgivs21 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, FidelioJet said: The talent is awful. I'll even go as far as to say the only reason this team is sometimes competitive is because Saleh knows how to run a defense. Negative. Time for your eye doctor exam 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post carlito1171 Posted 1 hour ago Popular Post Share Posted 1 hour ago 8 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: It's just far too easy to blame this mess on the HC. If there's one person to blame it's JD. The OL is awful, the QB has been worse, you have WR's that can't get separation and RB's that can't break a tackle. This is a league about scoring points and through 5 years of Joe Douglas the Jets have been incapable to doing so. We've reached the point where someone has to fall on the sword for 29-59..... It's not even worth the battles of who's fault is it more......it's just time for the organization to move in a different direction..... The generational (maybe even slightly overrated by Jets fans) 2022 draft and overrated patchwork re-signings mean nothing if your record is 29-59 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago OL looks worse because the defense knows when its run or pass, IMO. Hackett has to go. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Mind blowing take 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, PS17 said: Another incredible Fidelio take. Cant wait for what fideliobitonti has to say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted 1 hour ago Author Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, PS17 said: Another incredible Fidelio take. Sometimes I truly wonder if you guys watch the games. How you can come away from watching that awful offense and come away thinking it's all bad coaching is beyond me. I'm not saying Saleh has been good - but I am saying any coach would struggle to win with this team. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevisIsland610 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: The talent is awful. I'll even go as far as to say the only reason this team is sometimes competitive is because Saleh knows how to run a defense. Dude, you have outdone yourself. Saleh has a .360 winning % in his 4th year. The minute he is fired this team will be in better shape. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PS17 Posted 1 hour ago Popular Post Share Posted 1 hour ago Just now, FidelioJet said: Sometimes I truly wonder if you guys watch the games. How you can come away from watching that awful offense and come away thinking it's all bad coaching is beyond me. I'm not saying Saleh has been good - but I am saying any coach would struggle to win with this team. Offense is awful. But the coaches aren’t responsible. Got it! 4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago the talent isn’t as good as we probably thought but the practice habits/offseason/training camp approach is horrific. A month into the season and they’re still figuring out how to break a huddle 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Maybe if we repeat 29-59 over and over it will seep into the brains of those who want to cope based off one draft in 6 years 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted 1 hour ago Author Share Posted 1 hour ago Just now, PS17 said: Offense is awful. But the coaches aren’t responsible. Got it! Look, ultimately teams win and lose with QB play. And Rodgers is clearly shot - I don't blame Rodgers for getting old. I blame Joe Douglas for trading major assets for a clearly declining 40 year old QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers1 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago I don’t know what to say to this. its amazing to me that you are defending this person who cannot use these high caliber players that he was given on a silver platter. The coaches are the ones responsible for game play. Maybe if they had a clue it would not be the horror show that this has turned into 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, FidelioJet said: Look, ultimately teams win and lose with QB play. And Rodgers is clearly shot - I don't blame Rodgers for getting old. I blame Joe Douglas for trading major assets for a clearly declining 40 year old QB. Other teams do more with less. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TuscanyTile2 Posted 1 hour ago Popular Post Share Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Sometimes I truly wonder if you guys watch the games. How you can come away from watching that awful offense and come away thinking it's all bad coaching is beyond me. I'm not saying Saleh has been good - but I am saying any coach would struggle to win with this team. That's ridiculous. A better HC can absolutely win with this team. But JD hired Saleh. And the biggest problem personnel-wise is that our OL still stinks despite JD having 5 full offseasons to build it. Jim Harbaugh came in and drafted Joe Alt when he didn't truly need to. He said that he sees OL as a weapon. I agree with him on that. I realize that JD tried to build the OL (Becton, AVT, ) but it hasn't worked out and he has to take the blame for that. But Saleh gets no pass for any of this. He's an atrocious HC, one of the worst in the NFL. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 11 minutes ago, PS17 said: Another incredible Fidelio take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Omg this thread should be incinerated 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 13 minutes ago, bgivs21 said: JD is the last person to blame for this. The talent is there, this is on coaching. We have a patchwork OL that hasn't come together and JD hired Saleh. So JD definitely gets his share of the blame. But none of that excuses our CS. Saleh needs to go. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago "Scapegoating" - LMAO! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 15 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: It's just far too easy to blame this mess on the HC. If there's one person to blame it's JD. The OL is awful, the QB has been worse, you have WR's that can't get separation and RB's that can't break a tackle. This is a league about scoring points and through 5 years of Joe Douglas the Jets have been incapable to doing so. You’re nuts. The only reason they have two wins is because the talent on field can occasionally overcome the inept coaching of Saleh and Hackett. There is plenty of talent on this team. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 7 minutes ago, PS17 said: Offense is awful. But the coaches aren’t responsible. Got it! I’ve seen more creativity on offense with my local pee wee teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Ideal Fidelio offense: HC: Robert Saleh OC: Nathaniel Hackett QB: Zach Wilson 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgivs21 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, TuscanyTile2 said: We have a patchwork OL that hasn't come together and JD hired Saleh. So JD definitely gets his share of the blame. But none of that excuses our CS. Saleh needs to go. We have a patchwork OL? LOL You guys are delusional. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Just now, PS17 said: Ideal Fidelio offense: HC: Robert Saleh OC: Nathaniel Hackett QB: Zach Wilson And be patient…. Relax and be patient 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joejet Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 14 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: The talent is awful. I'll even go as far as to say the only reason this team is sometimes competitive is because Saleh knows how to run a defense. Ok Mrs Saleh, calm down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Green Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Ahhhh. Ok. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted 1 hour ago Author Share Posted 1 hour ago Just now, JetsFanatic said: You’re nuts. The only reason they have two wins is because the talent on field can occasionally overcome the inept coaching of Saleh and Hackett. There is plenty of talent on this team. Aaron Rodgers won two MVP's with Hackett. The difference is Aaron Rodger is a QB that lived and died with mobility. Once he lost that, which he clearly has, he became a liability. The inability to move the ball is mostly on Rodgers - and bringing in an aging 40 year old QB reliant on mobility, is on the GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago I am usually against firing people mid season but Saleh and Hackett have to go. how can an offense with Breece Hall, Garrett Wilson, Mike Williams, Lazard. Conklin be this bad ? How is Hall having such a miserable season ? They addressed the issues on the OL with one of the best LEft tackles in the game. Brought in Morgan Moses, John Simpson who were starters in Baltimore and yet they can’t open a hole for a RB or hold off a pass rush to let Rodgers take a shot down the field ? Something is really wrong. Is it scheme ? Is it abandoning the run game early ? The penalties continue to flow with no end in sight. I would at the least change the OC. If Rodgers doesn’t like it we’ll tough go home then and we’ll put Taylor in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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