At least Ulbrich is all business

[Ecuadorian Jet]

9 minutes ago, ARodJetsFan said:

Dude you're totally out to lunch.

Let the man coach, before you start bumping your gums.

Get a f_cking grip.....really.

I'm taking receipts 😉

1) my opinion of him does not stopping from coaching

2) My opinion is based on the fact that ulbrich was hand picked by saleh, and

3) we know the odds of success when a DC becomes a rookie hc for the Jets

[THE BARON]

2 hours ago, GreenFish said:

He gives me Mike Tomlin / Mike Vrabel vibes.

We can only hope he’s as good a coach as those guys.

When was the last time Tomlin or Vrabel made a deep playoff run or won a Super Bowl ? I think they both suck. Any HC that says "we are going to unleash hell" can go fuk off to the playground with the "all gas no brakes guy". 

Add to that... The only Super Bowl that poser Tomlin won was the one that the officials stole from the Cardinals.

[Jet_Engine1]

1 hour ago, Vader said:

wait so we are saying that not one of us would google W-L record of other coaches if we were the coach that lost the starting QB? 

It literally never even came to mind when Rodgers, Testaverde, Pennington, or Sanchez went down for me. Thats loser thinking. 

[Jet_Engine1]

1 hour ago, Ecuadorian Jet said:

No he won't. Ulbrich was made in the same mold as Saleh. It is all fictitious bravado

Saleh was planning to be a corporate D-Bag before suddenly deciding to be a Football coach.

 

Ulbrich was a Linebacker and Special Teams kamikaze for 10 years. 

 

Stop it.

[varjet]

2 hours ago, Warfish said:

Saleh was widely considered the best candidate that cycle, and I'd agree, most folks at the time supported the move once it was made and a fait accompli.

For example, I very much was opposed to hiring Gase and wanted McCarthy.  I deeply believed Mike McCarthy would have had more success than Gase, and that therefore hiring Saleh wouldn't have happened/been needed.  So I did not want Saleh, nor Gase, I wanted McCarthy.

Saleh was the best hire from his class.  Were the Jets and everyone else fooled, or did the Jets/Woody ruin Saleh?

The Jets may very well likely have another shot in an older Mike McCarthy.  Do we want him?

[ARodJetsFan]

1 hour ago, Ecuadorian Jet said:

I'm taking receipts 😉

1) my opinion of him does not stopping from coaching

2) My opinion is based on the fact that ulbrich was hand picked by saleh, and

3) we know the odds of success when a DC becomes a rookie hc for the Jets

You take those receipts.

We'll revisit this conversation on Tuesday morning.

[Ecuadorian Jet]

55 minutes ago, ARodJetsFan said:

You take those receipts.

We'll revisit this conversation on Tuesday morning.

I am 100% sure that the Jets will win against Buffalo thanks to the firing of The Salehsman. What happens after that will definitely fall on Ulbrich and his capability to actual be a Head Coach. Preparing the entire team, designing and carrying out a game plan, and adjust in-game are all qualities of a Head Coach. 

[Darnold's Forehead]

3 hours ago, Gastineau Lives said:

Where do your ideas come from?

He googles “dumbest posts on JN”, finds a post at least a few months old and posts the opposite opinion.  What he doesn’t notice is that they’re all his posts.

 

[BornJetsFan1983]

4 hours ago, jetsruinedmylifeandhealth said:

I have no clue what kind of coach he will be...really none whatsoever. But my initial feelings of him are much MUCH more positive than they were of Saleh when he was hired. And who knows maybe we stumbled into "the guy" who can lead us for the next 10-15 seasons. Sometimes it's not plainly obvious...the NFL landscape has been littered with great coordinators who rise through the ranks, get the league's attention, and begin to present themselves are someone who will be the next great can't miss head coach. Of course you just don't know until he is in the building and everything is squarely on his shoulders

One things that was just so cheesy and pitiful was the 2nd rate motivational speaker shtick that Saleh performed. From "All Gas No Brakes" to various stupid training camp t-shirts he would have printed - One had 60% on it...another said "What Now" It just reeked of cheap amateur hour nonsense...especially when nothing changed in terms of the teams preparation and discipline game in game out. Nobody takes this stuff seriously anymore or cares..."Positive Vibes Only" was the latest in the cringe cliché from Saleh. Positive vibes only...Jets outcoached again...Positive Vibes Only....14 penalties...Positive Vibes only...Jets again unprepared and it's 17-0 midway through the 1st.

. Meanwhile cueball Tony Robbins is texting Joe Benigno and leaving an electronic trail of messages of his true feelings on things that could one day be used to embarrass him or the organization. 

The childishness too...the taking receipts nonsense. When Rex chimed in instead of ignoring it as he should've Saleh said "He knows where he can find me". What are you 12? Just shut up and do your job better you don't have to respond to every snipe from the media. Then we of course see the real Saleh, where he apparently was crying like a sissy

Plus we find out he was researching other teams records after they've lost their starting quarterbacks

After all of the above, I doubt he had even a morsel of respect left in the building. And to top it all off he reported to work yesterday at 20-36, year 4....gleefully enjoying his positive vibes and somehow didn't think his job was in danger. He was that oblivious. Even now with that farewell letter he actually signs off with "All Gas No Brakes"...as if he still has everyone fooled and All Gas No Brakes is some kind of rallying cry that we believe in and that did some good for the franchise

The thing with Ulbrich is that all of this seems gone for good. No pitiful slogan shirts, no head cheerleader routine...no more yukking it up and foolishly venting to media talking heads that expose you as a fraud to the players or whiney and weak to the fans. No more vibes no more players friend, no more excuses for stupidity....just work, plan, prepare, and win. 

 

Saleh was outscored 267 points in the 1st half - worst in all NFL

Jets had 60 more penalties than their opponents, worst margin in NFL

Much worse when you consider all teams...

I don't think Brick will allow that sloppiness as HC...those penalties sure as hell wasn't all def.

[Untouchable]

2 hours ago, varjet said:

Saleh was the best hire from his class.  Were the Jets and everyone else fooled, or did the Jets/Woody ruin Saleh?

The Jets may very well likely have another shot in an older Mike McCarthy.  Do we want him?

The Jets didn’t ruin Saleh, the guy just isn’t fit to run the entire operation.

The league has been, is presently, and will forever and always be littered with quality OC’s and DC’s who simply aren’t cut out to oversee the whole shebang.

And no, we don’t want Mike McCarthy.

I’ve begged for the last 3 HC searches for the Jets to get an established guy instead of throwing darts trying to land some young savant who likely turns out to be garbage. It’s even more frustrating that Harbaugh was out there for the taking this offseason and we decided to give Saleh a 5 game tryout instead.

But McCarthy ain’t it.

If Ulbrich doesn’t set the team straight and make a run, then Woody needs to bite the bullet and throw $15+ million a year at Belichick. If Jets fans want to fill their pusses with sand over sh*t that happened 25 years ago, that’s on them. But we’re on borrowed time to make a run. And no one preaches discipline and accountability like BB.

[Ecuadorian Jet]

5 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

..then Woody needs to bite the bullet and throw $15+ million a year at Belichick. If Jets fans want to fill their pusses with sand over sh*t that happened 25 years ago, that’s on them. But we’re on borrowed time to make a run. And no one preaches discipline and accountability like BB.

Bellichick will never take the Jets job for as long as Woody is the owner.

[jetstream23]

5 hours ago, BreeceHallofFame said:

Let’s not forget that he fostered the toxic environment around the Moore, Mims, Carter, Becton, White, Wilson drama.

Yikes!  Those are some bad players.  Are those all JD guys?

 

[kevinc855]

Even back in 2021 I wasn’t one of these “don’t let him leave the building guys” I didn’t complain about the hire but I wasn’t ever sold.

Saleh always had this type of used salesman vibes I could never shake. Just want a smart football man not info slogans and crow speeches. Maybe ulbrich can be that guy. Time will tell

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

Shanahan tried to hire Ulbrich in a lateral move off of Saleh’s staff (despite his friendship with Saleh).

This speaks to Ulbrich’s value and rising star.

Whereas Shanahan was virtually begging other teams around the league to consider Saleh as a HC candidate before he was eventually hired by the Jets.

The 9ers got a free compensatory 3rd out of it because Saleh happens to fall into the category of a minority candidate. 

[Matt39]

8 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

Shanahan tried to hire Ulbrich in a lateral move off of Saleh’s staff (despite his friendship with Saleh).

This speaks to Ulbrich’s value and rising star.

Whereas Shanahan was virtually begging other teams around the league to consider Saleh as a HC candidate before he was eventually hired by the Jets.

The 9ers got a free compensatory 3rd out of it because Saleh happens to fall into the category of a minority candidate. 

Remember @bitonti theory that the Jets wanted Mike Pettine and not Rex. Maybe falls into this category as well.

[BornJetsFan1983]

1 hour ago, Untouchable said:

The Jets didn’t ruin Saleh, the guy just isn’t fit to run the entire operation.

The league has been, is presently, and will forever and always be littered with quality OC’s and DC’s who simply aren’t cut out to oversee the whole shebang.

And no, we don’t want Mike McCarthy.

I’ve begged for the last 3 HC searches for the Jets to get an established guy instead of throwing darts trying to land some young savant who likely turns out to be garbage. It’s even more frustrating that Harbaugh was out there for the taking this offseason and we decided to give Saleh a 5 game tryout instead.

But McCarthy ain’t it.

If Ulbrich doesn’t set the team straight and make a run, then Woody needs to bite the bullet and throw $15+ million a year at Belichick. If Jets fans want to fill their pusses with sand over sh*t that happened 25 years ago, that’s on them. But we’re on borrowed time to make a run. And no one preaches discipline and accountability like BB.

I think its interesting that everyone defending Saleh as far he should not have been fired, say basically he has performed in making our team have a top d. Like that somehow means he is notat fault. But the thing is he was not he DC. It is a problem to be the HC and not have anythign to do with one side of the ball. Its ridiculous. What good HC only over seas part of the team. 

Saleh was a bad HC for alot of reasons but the whole not being a aprt of the offense is crazy. How as a HC do you think its ok to jjust not be apart of the offense.

[OtherwiseHappyinLife]

4 hours ago, freestater said:

Shocked this didn’t get a few more laughs.  It’s still early.

A close examination of the poop yields the numbers 13-4

[Untouchable]

24 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

I think its interesting that everyone defending Saleh as far he should not have been fired, say basically he has performed in making our team have a top d. Like that somehow means he is notat fault. But the thing is he was not he DC. It is a problem to be the HC and not have anythign to do with one side of the ball. Its ridiculous. What good HC only over seas part of the team. 

Saleh was a bad HC for alot of reasons but the whole not being a aprt of the offense is crazy. How as a HC do you think its ok to jjust not be apart of the offense.

It’s absurd 

Ulbrich has been making the defensive calls since Day 1, as per Saleh himself.

Ulbrich may very well not be “the guy”, but at least he’s a desirable HC candidate who is a former player and by all accounts will hold people accountable within the organization. And the Jets get first dibs.

He has a legitimate chance to lay claim to the HC job for the foreseeable future if the Jets make a playoff run. Unlike a Ron Middleton or Brant Boyer.

But if he doesn’t seize the reigns, then the Jets can’t dick around with another head coaching “prospect”.

It has to be a veteran HC IMO. And not a reclamation project of the Adam Gase variety.

Woody is pushing 80 f*cking years old. Go lay it on the line for a guy like Belichick and let bygones be bygones.

[Frankie Green]

1 hour ago, Untouchable said:

The Jets didn’t ruin Saleh, the guy just isn’t fit to run the entire operation.

The league has been, is presently, and will forever and always be littered with quality OC’s and DC’s who simply aren’t cut out to oversee the whole shebang.

And no, we don’t want Mike McCarthy.

I’ve begged for the last 3 HC searches for the Jets to get an established guy instead of throwing darts trying to land some young savant who likely turns out to be garbage. It’s even more frustrating that Harbaugh was out there for the taking this offseason and we decided to give Saleh a 5 game tryout instead.

But McCarthy ain’t it.

If Ulbrich doesn’t set the team straight and make a run, then Woody needs to bite the bullet and throw $15+ million a year at Belichick. If Jets fans want to fill their pusses with sand over sh*t that happened 25 years ago, that’s on them. But we’re on borrowed time to make a run. And no one preaches discipline and accountability like BB.

Agreed w everything but the Belicheat thing. Would rather lose in same ol jets fashion forever. F Belicheat The Scumbag 

[doitny]

5 hours ago, Claymation said:

Ulbrich is in a can't lose situation.

If the Jets squander this opportunity and fire everyone. He will be a DC somewhere next year. If the Jets catch fire, he will either be a HC here or somewhere else in the NFL. His Floor will be a DC.

So yeah, he is all business.

not only that but they cant fire him this year. thats would be unprecedented. so he could demote Hacket if he wants to.

Rodgers getting Saleh fired could backfire on him if Ulrich has the balls. Rodgers could lose the power he has now.

[Frankie Green]

1 hour ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

Shanahan tried to hire Ulbrich in a lateral move off of Saleh’s staff (despite his friendship with Saleh).

This speaks to Ulbrich’s value and rising star.

Whereas Shanahan was virtually begging other teams around the league to consider Saleh as a HC candidate before he was eventually hired by the Jets.

The 9ers got a free compensatory 3rd out of it because Saleh happens to fall into the category of a minority candidate. 

This cannot be ignored. Also seems to have done a great job in those senior games things or whatever it was... he seems like a REAL version of what Saleh was trying to project, but was just really a softie. It was only a matter of time before we lost Ulbrich to a HC job elsewhere and this is a great move by Woody, to see if the guy has the goods or if we need a proven HC. I have a good feeling about coach Brick... so glad he's at least not gonna punt the season like it looked like was coming! 

[Integrity28]

7 hours ago, jeremy2020 said:

Saleh is the poster boy of toxic positivity.

Thank you. You’re the only other person I’ve seen say this other than me. It’s 10000% spot on. The guy was all TED talk rip offs, zero substance.

[Integrity28]

7 hours ago, jetsruinedmylifeandhealth said:

I have no clue what kind of coach he will be...really none whatsoever. But my initial feelings of him are much MUCH more positive than they were of Saleh when he was hired. And who knows maybe we stumbled into "the guy" who can lead us for the next 10-15 seasons. Sometimes it's not plainly obvious...the NFL landscape has been littered with great coordinators who rise through the ranks, get the league's attention, and begin to present themselves are someone who will be the next great can't miss head coach. Of course you just don't know until he is in the building and everything is squarely on his shoulders

One things that was just so cheesy and pitiful was the 2nd rate motivational speaker shtick that Saleh performed. From "All Gas No Brakes" to various stupid training camp t-shirts he would have printed - One had 60% on it...another said "What Now" It just reeked of cheap amateur hour nonsense...especially when nothing changed in terms of the teams preparation and discipline game in game out. Nobody takes this stuff seriously anymore or cares..."Positive Vibes Only" was the latest in the cringe cliché from Saleh. Positive vibes only...Jets outcoached again...Positive Vibes Only....14 penalties...Positive Vibes only...Jets again unprepared and it's 17-0 midway through the 1st.

. Meanwhile cueball Tony Robbins is texting Joe Benigno and leaving an electronic trail of messages of his true feelings on things that could one day be used to embarrass him or the organization. 

The childishness too...the taking receipts nonsense. When Rex chimed in instead of ignoring it as he should've Saleh said "He knows where he can find me". What are you 12? Just shut up and do your job better you don't have to respond to every snipe from the media. Then we of course see the real Saleh, where he apparently was crying like a sissy

Plus we find out he was researching other teams records after they've lost their starting quarterbacks

After all of the above, I doubt he had even a morsel of respect left in the building. And to top it all off he reported to work yesterday at 20-36, year 4....gleefully enjoying his positive vibes and somehow didn't think his job was in danger. He was that oblivious. Even now with that farewell letter he actually signs off with "All Gas No Brakes"...as if he still has everyone fooled and All Gas No Brakes is some kind of rallying cry that we believe in and that did some good for the franchise

The thing with Ulbrich is that all of this seems gone for good. No pitiful slogan shirts, no head cheerleader routine...no more yukking it up and foolishly venting to media talking heads that expose you as a fraud to the players or whiney and weak to the fans. No more vibes no more players friend, no more excuses for stupidity....just work, plan, prepare, and win. 

This is a great post. Like one of the best things I’ve read here in forever. 

[Ecuadorian Jet]

1 hour ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

Shanahan tried to hire Ulbrich in a lateral move off of Saleh’s staff (despite his friendship with Saleh).

This speaks to Ulbrich’s value and rising star.

Whereas Shanahan was virtually begging other teams around the league to consider Saleh as a HC candidate before he was eventually hired by the Jets.

The 9ers got a free compensatory 3rd out of it because Saleh happens to fall into the category of a minority candidate. 

I did not know this 

[TheNuuFaaolaExperience]

6 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

I HATED the motto "AGNB". It was stupid. It IS stupid. It is meaningless. At least for a few minutes, "Play Like a Jet" was kinda cool and meant something. 

 

I like Ulbrichs breakdown for the Senior Bowl... "KILL on 3!" LOL Reminded me of the Infantry. Good times...

The motto wouldn't be a problem for me if the team didn't come out of the tunnel all ass, no gas. 

[Larz]

Parcells had slogans printed on shirts. 
 

never understood the slogan hate lol

[doitny]

43 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

I think its interesting that everyone defending Saleh as far he should not have been fired, say basically he has performed in making our team have a top d. Like that somehow means he is notat fault. But the thing is he was not he DC. It is a problem to be the HC and not have anythign to do with one side of the ball. Its ridiculous. What good HC only over seas part of the team. 

Saleh was a bad HC for alot of reasons but the whole not being a aprt of the offense is crazy. How as a HC do you think its ok to jjust not be apart of the offense.

Saleh was a top DC in SF. its crazy to think he doesnt have a heavy hand in the defense. thats Andy Reids offense in KC not the OCs. its McKays offense not MLF in LA.

my biggest problem with this is we just made our team weaker not better.

since we havent named a DC yet i assume Ulrich will handle both DC and HC. if this is true then how the hell will he have time to do the defense AND try to fix the offensive problems? we are a coach short now. even if he names a DC someone will have to do 2 positions on the coaching staff. 

we are battling for 1st place in week 6 and we now have to shuffle the defense coaches. thats not helpful.

In 2018, Sports Illustrated found that only 16 of 87 interim coaches since 1960 managed a winning record in their interim stint and only two of those teams made the playoffs.

historically this does not work. if Woody wants to make the playoffs odds are he just killed it for us.

[Integrity28]

7 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Ulbrich is "All Rodgers".  Hes a puppet aaron identified as someone he can push around.

 

I get that you’re trying on new shtick here, but try harder on this. Theres a gross miscalculation in your redundantly stupid posts… that being nobody here thought Saleh was more valuable than Rodgers. Plus, AR was already pushing Saleh around like a beaten dog AND nobody on JN cared.

[Jet_Engine1]

6 minutes ago, Larz said:

Parcells had slogans printed on shirts. 
 

never understood the slogan hate lol

For training camp. The only one I remember was 1998, "Take the Next Step". 

 

AGNIB is lame. 

[Jet_Engine1]

5 minutes ago, doitny said:

Saleh was a top DC in SF. its crazy to think he doesnt have a heavy hand in the defense. thats Andy Reids offense in KC not the OCs. its McKays offense not MLF in LA.

my biggest problem with this is we just made our team weaker not better.

since we havent named a DC yet i assume Ulrich will handle both DC and HC. if this is true then how the hell will he have time to do the defense AND try to fix the offensive problems? we are a coach short now. even if he names a DC someone will have to do 2 positions on the coaching staff. 

we are battling for 1st place in week 6 and we now have to shuffle the defense coaches. thats not helpful.

In 2018, Sports Illustrated found that only 16 of 87 interim coaches since 1960 managed a winning record in their interim stint and only two of those teams made the playoffs.

historically this does not work. if Woody wants to make the playoffs odds are he just killed it for us.

I have NEVER seen Saleh on the sideline with a playsheet, tablet, or... you know... COACHING anyone. 

 

His entire defensive Philosophy from Seattle to SF to NY was, "Give me Pro-Bowlers at every position and play the most static, vanilla defensive scheme in the league and hope the players win their matchups".

 

Revolutionary. 

[Integrity28]

6 minutes ago, doitny said:

Saleh was a top DC in SF. its crazy to think he doesnt have a heavy hand in the defense. thats Andy Reids offense in KC not the OCs. its McKays offense not MLF in LA.

my biggest problem with this is we just made our team weaker not better.

since we havent named a DC yet i assume Ulrich will handle both DC and HC. if this is true then how the hell will he have time to do the defense AND try to fix the offensive problems? we are a coach short now. even if he names a DC someone will have to do 2 positions on the coaching staff. 

we are battling for 1st place in week 6 and we now have to shuffle the defense coaches. thats not helpful.

In 2018, Sports Illustrated found that only 16 of 87 interim coaches since 1960 managed a winning record in their interim stint and only two of those teams made the playoffs.

historically this does not work. if Woody wants to make the playoffs odds are he just killed it for us.

Odds are, the 2-3 start is what actually killed it. Not Woody. Look at the historical data if you want odds, not your emotions.

[TheNuuFaaolaExperience]

All Fart, No Shart

All Beans, No Gas

All Balls, No Cock

All Biscuit, No Gravy

All Talk, No Game

All Stairs, No Hair

 

Edit - I put this in a Jeff Ulbrich thread. I took an edible. 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by TheNuuFaaolaExperience

[Creepy Lurker]

All business, no pleasure. 

[MR.GANGGREEN28]

8 hours ago, joewilly12 said:

All business no brakes 

No breaks

[More Cowbell]

Before we start throwing bouquets at Ulbrich's feet, can we watch him coach a game first? 

Yeah,  it's  easy to pile on Saleh. He was about as bad as HC as we have ever had. I'm not sure if he was the worst, but he is definitely in the top 5. What was written wasn’t so much a positive for Ulbrich, it just pointed out all the corny crap Saleh did and Ulbrich hasn't,  at least not yet.