kelly Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Entering this season, it seemed running backs Matt Forte and Bilal Powell would make a nice, fairly equitable tandem for the Jets.But so far, Forte has received the vast majority of the workload. Through two games, Forte has 52 carries for 196 yards and seven catches for 68 yards, while Powell has just five carries for 43 yards and three catches for 8 yards. In Thursday's 37-31 win at the Bills, Forte played 61 of 75 snaps, while Powell played 17 snaps, getting almost exclusively third-down action. This was basically the same ratio as the opener against the Bengals — 54 to 17, for Forte. It'll be interesting to see if the Jets mix in Powell more as the season progresses. Forte, after all, is a 30-year-old running back who now has 2,087 career regular season carries on his body. But he has looked good so far. And the Jets have continued to ride him — 30 carries and two catches on Thursday. Consider that Chris Ivory, during his time with the Jets, had more than 23 carries just twice — 34 in 2013 against the Patriots and 29 last season in London against the Dolphins. rest of above article : > http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2016/09/why_is_bilal_powell_barely_playing_jets_snap_count.html#incart_river_index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Probably to help keep him fresh and healthy. His injury was huge in Week 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De-Jet-Erate/Duane Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 32 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Probably to help keep him fresh and healthy. His injury was huge in Week 17 If I remember correctly the Jets lost all of the games he was out because of injury last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Two words secret weapon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 We've been in 2 dog fights this year .... You keep your best players on the field while the outcome is still up in the air. big lead at KC ... We'll see some more touches for Powell in the 2nd half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 4 minutes ago, De-Jet-Erate/Duane said: If I remember correctly the Jets lost all of the games he was out because of injury last season Yea, I recall saying the same last year and checking on it. I think you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraVerde Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 OMG it's week 2 and Forte is killing it whats wrong with people?? media just trying to start crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I posted about this in another thread, I dont like see Forte getting 30+ touches a game. That's wayyyy to much for a 30 year old RB. Especially when Powell is a very capable back. It doesnt really make a ton of sense to me but Forte has been solid so I get it, I just hope he doesnt fall off from being over worked. We dont have a ton of RB Depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 We are really thin at RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 1 minute ago, JiF said: I posted about this in another thread, I dont like see Forte getting 30+ touches a game. That's wayyyy to much for a 30 year old RB. Especially when Powell is a very capable back. It doesnt really make a ton of sense to me but Forte has been solid so I get it, I just hope he doesnt fall off from being over worked. We dont have a ton of RB Depth. Well we probably don't have to count the one where he walked untouched into the end zone so there's that Seriously though, he doesn't seem to be ending his runs with violent collisions. So while 30 every week is a high number, I think he could thrive in the mid-20s if he continues to avoid jarring hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Just now, nycdan said: Well we probably don't have to count the one where he walked untouched into the end zone so there's that Seriously though, he doesn't seem to be ending his runs with violent collisions. So while 30 every week is a high number, I think he could thrive in the mid-20s if he continues to avoid jarring hits. On one of his TD's, he got rocked!!! Loudest hit of the game and yet he managed to somehow keep moving forward and break the goal line. For someone who is supposedly a terrible short yardage back he's fighting for every extra yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 1 minute ago, JiF said: On one of his TD's, he got rocked!!! Loudest hit of the game and yet he managed to somehow keep moving forward and break the goal line. For someone who is supposedly a terrible short yardage back he's fighting for every extra yard. Fair point. that was tough sledding and a great job You know...when you read all this stuff about Forte, you'd think he's not a big guy. But he's 6'1" 220 lb. Just a few comparison points: Chris Ivory: 6'0" 220 lb., Adrian Peterson: 6'2" 217 lb., Marshawn Lynch: 5'11" 215 lb. Forte is right in there with a bunch of guys who do just fine in short distance rushing. Styles are different but no reason he can't bust it up down the middle now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Powell and Forte in the backfield together with our 3 WR;'s should be a match-up nightmare for defenses if the Oline holds up. I saw them together in at least one play yesterday. Hope to see this more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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De-Jet-Erate/Duane Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, prime21 said: Powell and Forte in the backfield together with our 3 WR;'s should be a match-up nightmare for defenses if the Oline holds up. I saw them together in at least one play yesterday. Hope to see this more. It's nice to finally have some serious weapons on offense!! It doesn't matter how good the D is they ca't cover and account for everyone if you load it up like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted September 19, 2016 Author Share Posted September 19, 2016 @Connor_J_Hughes why so little involvement of Powell (especially on 1st and 2nd down). Personally think he's more explosive than Forte. 11:14 AM - 16 Sep 2016 HUGHES: The Jets signed Matt Forte to be their featured back, and they're using him as a featured back. He is the team's runner on every first- and second-down play, along with goal line and short yardage. Powell is the third-down back. He only comes in the game on third downs or if Forte needs an immediate rest. In camp, preseason, and throughout the first two weeks of the regular season, the Jets have made it abundantly clear they will not ease Forte's touches until they have to. Forte's still holding up, so they are giving it to him time and time again.I do not agree with this, but that's their thinking. If it was me, I'd want to preserve Forte now, to ensure I have him down the road. But I'm a reporter, not a coach. So what do I know? Another thinking is the Jets are using him now during the incredibly difficult six-game stretch, to rest him more when they play some easier teams.As far as Powell being more explosive? Maybe from a technical standpoint, but there's no comparison between the two as runners. Forte is better. Much better. rest of above article : > http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2016/09/how_impressive_has_darron_lee_been_will_quincy_enu.html#incart_river_index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscoeword Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Loving Forte, but just like I always preferred Powell over Ivory, I think he can be as good if not better than Forte. Give him the damn ball once in a while! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 On 9/16/2016 at 1:20 PM, JiF said: On one of his TD's, he got rocked!!! Loudest hit of the game and yet he managed to somehow keep moving forward and break the goal line. For someone who is supposedly a terrible short yardage back he's fighting for every extra yard. He was terrible in short yardage last year but I think he's been excellent around the goalline his whole career otherwise. Chalk it up to the Bears being stupid and not using him properly the last year or so. Or perhaps their O-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Love to see more Powell, dont run Forte into the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 after last season when he comes in the game the defense is in automatic screen alert, so if you are just going to run it, give it to forte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Jets coaches think Forte is still 25 yrs old. They have no idea what they are doing giving him all these touches. Powell should be getting at least 10 carries a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 On September 16, 2016 at 1:20 PM, JiF said: On one of his TD's, he got rocked!!! Loudest hit of the game and yet he managed to somehow keep moving forward and break the goal line. For someone who is supposedly a terrible short yardage back he's fighting for every extra yard. He is smart. He slides or takes the hit in an oblique way. Rarely gets lined up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 2 hours ago, jack48 said: He is smart. He slides or takes the hit in an oblique way. Rarely gets lined up. That's like saying "I getin car accidents but before impact I slightly turn the wheel so I don't go head on." There's still damage no matter how he gets tackled or how you drive your car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 35 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: That's like saying "I getin car accidents but before impact I slightly turn the wheel so I don't go head on." There's still damage no matter how he gets tackled or how you drive your car. Lololol ... If crashing cars 20-30 times every Sunday was your job it might make a difference! Nobody wants to grind Forte down before he can help push us into the playoffs (through 2 games though he's been the best non D-line player on the team ... Both games have been in doubt to the very end ... You don't take your best offensive player out of a game that could go either way) i'm sure the coaches are trying to get him a breather when the game allows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Powell will get his touches. I seriously doubt the you are going to continue to see Forte getting 30 touches a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 1 hour ago, CrazyCarl40 said: That's like saying "I getin car accidents but before impact I slightly turn the wheel so I don't go head on." There's still damage no matter how he gets tackled or how you drive your car. I drove Demo derbies for years, damn right taking a glancing blow causes much less damage then a head on one. Same thing with a RB, glancing much better then a head on one. Answer to why Powell not playing, simple, their is a HOF running back ahead of him on the depth chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 11 hours ago, CrazyCarl40 said: That's like saying "I getin car accidents but before impact I slightly turn the wheel so I don't go head on." There's still damage no matter how he gets tackled or how you drive your car. He still avoids the kind of hits our RB took last year. Reminds me of Curtis a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJCAP2 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 11 hours ago, shawn306 said: Powell will get his touches. I seriously doubt the you are going to continue to see Forte getting 30 touches a game. Agreed, I also think that the 2 games being very close has something to do with it. They clearly trust Forte because he is the better back, they spent money on him to play him. As defenses adjust to Forte, so will the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 On 9/16/2016 at 1:16 PM, CobraVerde said: OMG it's week 2 and Forte is killing it whats wrong with people?? media just trying to start crap +1. Forte's playing most partly because Powell's big contribution the last few years is pass receiving, and Forte does that very well. Another reason is that Forte has been one of the league's best backs for the past few years, Powell has been one of the league's best substitute/situational backs the last few years, so guess who gets more touches? A third reason is that it is hard to take a man out when he is averaging 130 yards a game for you. I'm sure Powell's share of touches will increase as the season progresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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