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10 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

"Other than attempting to trade up for Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota, Carson Wentz, and Jarad Goff, but failing to do so because the other teams that selected them needed those guys too, Macc has shown zero desire to get a top tier QB prospects because he passed on mediocre prospects in the 1st like Paxton Lynch in 2016 and an entirely weak class in 2017".

 

I attempted to create an operating system but failed to do so because Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and Ken Thompson beat me too it.

Cross my heart! 

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5 minutes ago, AFJF said:

You still take the best QB on the board.

Well yeah, no duh.  No one who wanted Rosen and Darnold are currently suggesting otherwise.  They just realize that those 2 are significantly more safe and special prospects than any of the other guys and would have rather gotten one of them over the much larger gambles.  I love Luke Falk but he is a significantly riskier prospect than Rosen or Darnold.

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1 hour ago, AFJF said:

The Jets did not win their 8th game in week 4 yesterday, they won their second.

In all likelihood they'll only win 2-3 more games the rest of the way and they'll be in the top five or able to easily move up a few slots in to the top 5.

Some of the teams likely to finish ahead of the Jets won't be shopping for a QB

SF- Gonna' sign Cousins

Chi- Just took Trubisky at 2

Colts- Luck

Cleveland will be in the mix, and if there's one thing history has shown us, it's that the Browns always take the right guy in the first round.

In summary, the Jets will probably be 3-2 after next week but then life is good for you guys once again as not many wins remain on the schedule.

Enjoy the wins, there won't be many....then enjoy the draft when they get a QB.

Dude   we're  gonna be 10-6 or 11-5.  Stop being such a hater. :) 

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Just now, JiF said:

I attempted to create an operating system but failed to do so because Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and Ken Thompson beat me too it.

Cross my heart! 

Shoulda told all those other guys that you had dibsies.  That woulda convinced em, right killer?

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Just now, Lot K Tailgaters said:

Indy tanked for Luck.  Never had an OL for him and he's had a ruptured spleen and bum shoulder.  

That goes back to the point of: Prioritizing a QB over a team around a QB.

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Just now, Mogglez said:

Well yeah, no duh.  No one who wanted Rosen and Darnold are currently suggesting otherwise.  They just realize that those 2 are significantly more safe and special prospects than any of the other guys and would have rather gotten one of them over the much larger gambles.  I love Luke Falk but he is a significantly riskier prospect than Rosen or Darnold.

Great QBs are taken outside of 1 and 2.

Sign Cousins and draft one.

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2 minutes ago, Lot K Tailgaters said:

Indy tanked for Luck.  Never had an OL for him and he's had a ruptured spleen and bum shoulder.  

If you go 1-15, you generally have way more problems than just a bad QB. 

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14 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

How about just general happiness that your team won a game. Real carpe diem fans are happy when their rebuild team wins games in the first quarter of a season.

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1 minute ago, AFJF said:

Great QBs are taken outside of 1 and 2.

Sign Cousins and draft one.

Again, I'm not disagreeing.  You just said we better trade the farm for the top pick and I'm explaining to you why that is still a pretty big long shot and, overall, a unrealistic dream.

As far as Cousins goes, we're probably looking at a solid 3-4 years away from being competitive because of the talent deficiencies on this roster.  That means that, at best, he'll likely be 33-34 when we're finally re-tooled and ready to go be a contender. You wanna give a 30 year old QB 200 million dollars, only for him to be a washed up corpse when we're ready to compete?  I don't.

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19 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

How about just general happiness that your team won a game. Real fans are happy when their team wins games in the first quarter of a season.

You're right. #RealFans are satisfied and at peace with drafting Vernon Gholston over Matt Ryan in 2008 because they got to celebrate a siiiiiick win over the Kansas City Chiefs at the end of the 07-08 season.

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Just now, Mogglez said:

Again, I'm not disagreeing.  You just said we better trade the farm for the top pick and I'm explaining to you why that is still a pretty big long shot and, overall, a unrealistic dream.

As far as Cousins goes, we're probably looking at a solid 3-4 years away from being competitive because of the talent deficiencies on this roster.  That means that, at best, he'll likely be 33-34 when we're finally re-tooled and ready to go be a contender. You wanna give a 30 year old QB 200 million dollars, only for him to be a washed up corpse when we're ready to compete?  I don't.

I still think the 9ers take the proven Cousins over a crapshoot draft pick.

This team, like many others, would be exponentially better with a QB.  They just gave up two TDs in two weeks and we’ve seen what the receivers, RBs and TE can do when the ball is on target. 

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4 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Again, I'm not disagreeing.  You just said we better trade the farm for the top pick and I'm explaining to you why that is still a pretty big long shot and, overall, a unrealistic dream.

As far as Cousins goes, we're probably looking at a solid 3-4 years away from being competitive because of the talent deficiencies on this roster.  That means that, at best, he'll likely be 33-34 when we're finally re-tooled and ready to go be a contender. You wanna give a 30 year old QB 200 million dollars, only for him to be a washed up corpse when we're ready to compete?  I don't.

3 to 4 more years? Absolutely ridiculous! 

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7 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

You're right. #RealFans are satisfied and at peace with drafting Vernon Gholston over Matt Ryan in 2008 because they got to celebrate a siiiiiick win over the Kansas City Chiefs at the end of the 07-08 season.

Hoping your team losses a game towards the end of the season is completely different than rooting for your team to lose in September and early October.

And yeah that example was an awful pick by the Jets. But they just as easily could have drafted a really good player with that pick as well. You're looking at a worst case scenario situation where the Jets fall a couple slots back and then go on to pick an awful player. They won a meaningless game last year and were still able to get what looks like a really good player in Adams...

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39 minutes ago, AFJF said:

GMs miss.  Before Flacco and Brady, Ozzy Newsome and BB had done nothing to make you believe they should be allowed to draft another QB.

Huh?  BB inherited Bledsoe.  And Newsome Testaverde and he drafted Boller in the first plus had McNair before Flacco.

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Just now, JiF said:

Huh?  BB inherited Bledsoe.  And Newsome Testaverde and he drafted Boller in the first plus had McNair before Flacco.

BB was a head coach with the Browns before he took over in New England and he loved Todd Philcox.

Newsome didn't draft Vinny, and even if he had, would anyone care?  He was one of the biggest busts in NFL history despite having a nice two or three year run at the end of his career.

Newsome didn't draft McNair.

Newsome did draft Boller, in the first round of the NFL draft after he completed 48% of his passes in college, and shockingly, he sucked.

 

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38 minutes ago, AFJF said:

Great QBs are taken outside of 1 and 2.

Sign Cousins and draft one.

 

30 minutes ago, AFJF said:

I still think the 9ers take the proven Cousins over a crapshoot draft pick.

We should sign Cousins, who is also signing with the 49ers

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In projecting the rest of the season, I have the Jets at 5 wins (Cle, Mia & LAC).

That would put us behind Cle, SF, Ind, LAC, Mia, Balt, Cin, and possibly Jax, Chi, & NYG.

Of those teams, Cle, SF, LAC, Mia, Jax could all go QB.  That doesn't leave a ton of options.  Either spend a ton of draft capital to move up for the 4th or 5 th rated QB, take Mayfield or Jackson (because these guys might not. E the prototypical QB and others pass) or just go with the short term crap we have now.

I feel that 2017 and 2018 are going to wind up like 2015/2016.  No playoffs, no QB.

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1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

 

All wins are bad in a tank season.  We're not catching up with the 0-4 Giants anytime soon.  

There's no such thing as a win-win.  Either you're in the "let's win 6 games and have some fun!" camp or you're in the "# 1 pick or bust" camp.

In no universe does getting the 6th pick mean good news for this franchise.  

Catch up to Giants?  Dude that team does the dead in the water thing every year then go's on a 8-9 game winning street then beat Pats in Superbowl.

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2 minutes ago, HessStation said:

Hilarious if the Giants take the next future stud QB 2 picks before the Jets.

Like the Colts did when they sucked for Luck? They still suck with Luck. Sadly need some players to go along with the QB.

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people predicted the Jets would lose every game

they are 2-2. 

now the OP predicting they won't win another game after their 3rd. 

 

are you using the same information that led you to believe they would lose every game? 

 

Maybe this team isn't so bad 

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2 hours ago, ChuckkieB said:

In a year that the Jets SHOULD be tanking, they are about to be 3-2 after beating the hapless Browns next week.  There is no way that any Jets fan can be happy about this.  Yes, their schedule gets much tougher as the season moves along, and there aren't too many more wins on the schedule after next week, but watching the team win meaningless games against garbage teams which further diminishes their chances of getting a top 2 pick in 2018 gives me no joy whatsoever.  Beat the Pats.  Beat the Chiefs. Beat the Broncos.  That will impress me.    

So, if the Jets rolled into the Pats game at 0-5 and won you'd be impressed? 

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1 hour ago, shuler82 said:

I've been a vocal tank guy, but as a Jets fan it's time to face reality - This is a 6-10 team that's going to be drafting 7th or 8th next year. Get ready for your 2018 QB - Alex Smith.

*Josh McCown

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16 minutes ago, HessStation said:

Hilarious if the Giants take the next future stud QB 2 picks before the Jets.

Giants play Chargers next week.  Someone's gotta win.

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