T0mShane Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Thought this would be a good one for the archives, but who starts more games this year? There's some early buzz that Sanchez could go to either Cleveland or St Louis--both of whom have vulnerable QB slots--and we know the Jets situation. Who do you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Neither start a single game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 Neither start a single game. u cray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Thought this would be a good one for the archives, but who starts more games this year? There's some early buzz that Sanchez could go to either Cleveland or St Louis--both of whom have vulnerable QB slots--and we know the Jets situation. Who do you have? the plan is for Vick to start none, so I would say Sanchez has a shot--but neither will start on merit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 u cray he's cray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowmoe57 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I would go with the one who is employed right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Neither start a single game. It wouldn't surprise me one but if Vick is the Week 1 starter after beating out Geno. Vick gets hurt same week and fragile Geno comes back in and leads the team to another .500 record. Rex is given lifetime contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 They say Sanchez may go to St. Louis. If that happens he would make more starts with Bradford being the being the most injury prone QB currently. He's also coming off a bum ACL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorge o8 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 i think sanchez goes to the texans and starts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I think MS's best shot to start was Oakland. May not have a starting gig now. Minnesota get a QB yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 i think they both start > 8 Better question, who has a better year stats wise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budda12ax7 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Vick will be the starter......sorry geno. 1.Vick motivated by redemption ....this might be his last chance. 2. He is better than Geno..... 3. He is better than Geno.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 If Vick is the starter week one, that means that Geno drastically under-performed this off-season. The organization clearly wants Geno to be the guy and unless he really sh*ts the bed, he'll be our opening day starter. So, I'll have to say that Mark will start more. He'll latch on with Cleveland or another one of the scrub teams and make a spot start due to injury. He never came across as the sharpest crayon, so I doubt he'd pick up the offense and beat out Hoyer in just one off-season. However, I can see Hoyer getting knocked out of a game, be it injury or performance, and Sanchez getting the spot stat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 In a true competition, Vick at least start until week 6. Hopefully Geno will be on his heels at that time. If not, adios Vick, Geno stays in the bullpen and we go find someone else. Net gain of $6 million cap regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 In a true competition, Vick at least start until week 6. Hopefully Geno will be on his heels at that time. If not, adios Vick, Geno stays in the bullpen and we go find someone else. Net gain of $6 million cap regardless. Geno's stats the last four weeks of last season were better than Vick's career numbers. I don't think he'll be an easy out in a fair competition, and I'm not yet sold on the idea that it will be a fair competition. I think it's a lot better for the Jets long term if Geno wins the job. Either he wins it and succeeds, or the Jets go back and draft a QB high in 2015. If Geno doesn't get a shot this year, they might put drafting another QB high on hold until they let Geno play out. I think Vick is a $5M insurance policy against Geno getting hurt or sucking, in that order. For Mark, I'll wait and see where he winds up before chiming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJetsVets91 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Neither start a single game. Wouldn't surprise me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Well I hope it's not Vick because of geno doing well. Something tells me Brady is going to get hurt and Sanchez will start for that pats, just because that's probably the least likely thing to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 i think they both start > 8 Better question, who has a better year stats wise? Even if he proves to be the better QB and becomes the starter, Vick isn't making it through 8 games. There's enough desperate teams out there with horrible QBs that Sanchez will go to a team that gives him a real shot, and he'll definitely get some serious playing time. Meanwhile, the Jets are going to do everything in their power to have Geno be their guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Geno's stats the last four weeks of last season were better than Vick's career numbers. I don't think he'll be an easy out in a fair competition, and I'm not yet sold on the idea that it will be a fair competition. I think it's a lot better for the Jets long term if Geno wins the job. Either he wins it and succeeds, or the Jets go back and draft a QB high in 2015. If Geno doesn't get a shot this year, they might put drafting another QB high on hold until they let Geno play out. I think Vick is a $5M insurance policy against Geno getting hurt or sucking, in that order. For Mark, I'll wait and see where he winds up before chiming in. Absolutely. I just don't see Smith out playing Vick in the preseason. More then likely Smith will still get his chance in the long run, as the probability of Vick getting hurt is very high. It might help Smith in the long run. Take some pressure off him, and the boo birds off his back early in the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSage Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I personally don't like Smith's accuracy or lack thereof but after starting for year, he should not be affected by the pressure of a starting quality qb competing. If he feels "pressure" (at this point) he should be looking for another line of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Vick easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 u cray very cray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Geno's stats the last four weeks of last season were better than Vick's career numbers. I don't think he'll be an easy out in a fair competition, and I'm not yet sold on the idea that it will be a fair competition. I think it's a lot better for the Jets long term if Geno wins the job. Either he wins it and succeeds, or the Jets go back and draft a QB high in 2015. If Geno doesn't get a shot this year, they might put drafting another QB high on hold until they let Geno play out. I think Vick is a $5M insurance policy against Geno getting hurt or sucking, in that order. For Mark, I'll wait and see where he winds up before chiming in. So in other words If Mark winds up on a team loaded with offensive talent we could get a nice smack right in the chops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 So in other words If Mark winds up on a team loaded with offensive talent we could get a nice smack right in the chops Man, if he lands on a team that's loaded with offensive talent in addition to a top 5 defense, I bet he could probably get them to the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Absolutely. I just don't see Smith out playing Vick in the preseason. More then likely Smith will still get his chance in the long run, as the probability of Vick getting hurt is very high. It might help Smith in the long run. Take some pressure off him, and the boo birds off his back early in the season Correct. All this talk about what Geno did for the last four games against the dregs of the NFL is way overblown. I heard some espn show state his QBR was inflated due to the rushing yards he gained during that stretch. In a fair competition Vick wins which makes me question Idzik's overall plan. The better long term scenario for the Jets would have been letting Geno either succeed or fail this year. Losing a pre-season competition to Vick still leaves us wondering what we have in Geno. I am only on board w/the Vick signing if we come out and name Geno the starter prior to camp. If he falls on his face again at least we gave him a season and a half or so to justify our moving on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Vick did beat out Nick Foles last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Sanchez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Geno's stats the last four weeks of last season were better than Vick's career numbers. I don't think he'll be an easy out in a fair competition, and I'm not yet sold on the idea that it will be a fair competition. I think it's a lot better for the Jets long term if Geno wins the job. Either he wins it and succeeds, or the Jets go back and draft a QB high in 2015. If Geno doesn't get a shot this year, they might put drafting another QB high on hold until they let Geno play out. I think Vick is a $5M insurance policy against Geno getting hurt or sucking, in that order. For Mark, I'll wait and see where he winds up before chiming in. Link? You are a moderator after all. Need to set a good example for the other students. Not sure how a 4 game window can beat an entire career? TD throws, Yds. Rushing, Completions, Passing Completions, Passing Yds...? Did Vick ever have a 4 game window with incredible #'s? I bet he did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Correct. All this talk about what Geno did for the last four games against the dregs of the NFL is way overblown. I heard some espn show state his QBR was inflated due to the rushing yards he gained during that stretch. In a fair competition Vick wins which makes me question Idzik's overall plan. The better long term scenario for the Jets would have been letting Geno either succeed or fail this year. Losing a pre-season competition to Vick still leaves us wondering what we have in Geno. I am only on board w/the Vick signing if we come out and name Geno the starter prior to camp. If he falls on his face again at least we gave him a season and a half or so to justify our moving on. Just don't agree. At the very least, it's not a given. Mike Vick completed 44% of his passes as a rookie for a 62.7 passer rating (worse than Geno), the next year, he managed a 55% completion rate, with an 81.6 QBR (which is better than his career number). Why can't Geno improve from his rookie year at a similar rate? Especially with potentially improved weapons to throw to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Just don't agree. At the very least, it's not a given. Mike Vick completed 44% of his passes as a rookie for a 62.7 passer rating (worse than Geno), the next year, he managed a 55% completion rate, with an 81.6 QBR (which is better than his career number). Why can't Geno improve from his rookie year at a similar rate? Especially with potentially improved weapons to throw to? I am not saying he might not improve if given a 2nd season in which to do so. I'm saying right now or in pre-season, Vick is the better QB much like Sanchez was last pre-season therefore Geno does not get a full 2nd season to show any growth. The better move would have been to sign/trade for a QB who is not a threat to Geno. Then if Geno fails we move on comfortable in the fact we gave him an extended look. This is just a silly signing unless Idzik is already convinced Geno is not the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Geno has to really stink the bed or suck for Vick to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Thought this would be a good one for the archives, but who starts more games this year? There's some early buzz that Sanchez could go to either Cleveland or St Louis--both of whom have vulnerable QB slots--and we know the Jets situation. Who do you have? You couldn't have just added a poll to this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Vick did beat out Nick Foles last year That was before Nick Foles was Nick Foles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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