CTM Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Better chance of Mike reuniting with Mad Dog but not as good a chance as dblatesman peeing standing up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Terror Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I'd take Mickey Rivers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsRay Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 oh boy his salary is $15,750,000 jets can't afford the chargers long snapper without trading harris, wilkerson or marshall as part of the deal as in 2 of those guys plus harvard, lololol A deal for Rivers would probably include a contract restructure, turning salary into bonus, to lower his cap hit for this year, there wouldn't be any issue financially I a move for Rivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Why do you make me deal with this heartbreak? A bolo-tie wearing redneck a$$hole coming to my team to win titles? Please make it so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I'd prefer Geno to win the job over a 32 year old journeyman on his 6th NFL team. I'd prefer Rivers, who may in fact be available, over either. the jets have $5 million in cap room and need $3 million for the rookies and $5 million for in season flexibility. the only way to get rivers is to trade wilkerson and harris or wilkerson and marshall and he's a choker no thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 A deal for Rivers would probably include a contract restructure, turning salary into bonus, to lower his cap hit for this year, there wouldn't be any issue financially I a move for Rivers. he will be redone like big ben. brees was 3 days away form being a free agent before he was redone if I'm not mistaken this is all just leveraging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 They are not trading Marshall if they are getting a QB. Trading Wilkerson would not be the best thing for this team but they just might have to because we are soon going to find out that overpaid Harris is immovable. Those Cro and Harris overpaid deals are going end up biting us. So assuming Rivers is available its either Mo Wilk or Philip Rivers. if you look at jason page there are only 3 players the jets can trade away to make room for a QB without having a ton of dead money on the cap the jets would have to include 2 of the players to make room for a QB salary its not wilk or rivers its wilk and marshall or rivers or wilkerson and harris or rivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted March 18, 2015 Author Share Posted March 18, 2015 the jets have $5 million in cap room and need $3 million for the rookies and $5 million for in season flexibility. the only way to get rivers is to trade wilkerson and harris or wilkerson and marshall and he's a choker no thanks Not sure where you get $5 million in cap room from. Haven't seen it reported that low anywhere. Also, you bash Rivers for being a choker while simultaneously blowing a QB that has never won more than six games in a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 the jets have $5 million in cap room and need $3 million for the rookies and $5 million for in season flexibility. the only way to get rivers is to trade wilkerson and harris or wilkerson and marshall and he's a choker no thanks Cap room is pretty easy to manufacture. Some of the deals that have been reported can easily be monkeyed to create more space. What "in season flexibility" is required? Is a legit starting QB coming available during the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Cap room is pretty easy to manufacture. Some of the deals that have been reported can easily be monkeyed to create more space. What "in season flexibility" is required? Is a legit starting QB coming available during the season? injuries squeezing $15 million into a $5 million dollar sack is tough even for tanny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Not sure where you get $5 million in cap room from. Haven't seen it reported that low anywhere. Also, you bash Rivers for being a choker while simultaneously blowing a QB that has never won more than six games in a season. I'm the sh*t - Tanner Purdum signed a 2 year / $1,810,000 contract with the New York Jets, including $265,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $905,000. - Antonio Cromartie signed a 4 year / $32,000,000 contract with the New York Jets, including $20,000,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $8,000,000. - Marcus Gilchrist signed a 4 year / $22,000,000 contract with the New York Jets, including $10,000,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $5,500,000. http://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space do the math fun time is over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I'm the sh*t http://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space do the math fun time is over He's got us at $19 mil before those signings. Depending on how those contracts are structured, we could have anywhere from $0 to $12 mil in cap room left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted March 18, 2015 Author Share Posted March 18, 2015 I'm the sh*t http://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space do the math fun time is over Have you ever heard of frontloading and backloading? Those numbers are not there. No one knows what those guys are making this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 He's got us at $19 mil before those signings. Depending on how those contracts are structured, we could have anywhere from $0 to $12 mil in cap room left. it's hard to say exactly, but no matter how you slice it, the fun is over, there is no way to get a franchise QB in here without sending players back. the jets can't get it done with picks and a cap trickeration rivers isn't available anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Have you ever heard of frontloading and backloading? Those numbers are not there. No one knows what those guys are making this season. marshall and cro probably came for the minimum. my bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted March 18, 2015 Author Share Posted March 18, 2015 marshall and cro probably came for the minimum. my bad Marshall was traded. We already know what he's making. Valiant attempt to make your disproved argument sound better, though. I applaud it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 They are not trading Marshall if they are getting a QB. Trading Wilkerson would not be the best thing for this team but they just might have to because we are soon going to find out that overpaid Harris is immovable. Those Cro and Harris overpaid deals are going end up biting us. So assuming Rivers is available its either Mo Wilk or Philip Rivers. if this is true you have to do the deal. rivers is a franchise level qb and has at least 5 good years left. wilk is good, but he's a d-lineman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 it's hard to say exactly, but no matter how you slice it, the fun is over, there is no way to get a franchise QB in here without sending players back. the jets can't get it done with picks and a cap trickeration rivers isn't available anyway There most certainly is a way to get $15M in there. If this guy does not have the flexibility to get a QB in here he should be fired right now. Rivers probably isn't available, but if they want a $15-20M QB they should be able to fit one in by moving some money around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 A deal for Rivers would probably include a contract restructure, turning salary into bonus, to lower his cap hit for this year, there wouldn't be any issue financially I a move for Rivers. You're still alive, hey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsRay Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 You're still alive, hey? Of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Why do you make me deal with this heartbreak? A bolo-tie wearing redneck a$$hole coming to my team to win titles? Please make it so Lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Money is not going to be the obstacle to getting Rivers. Jets can easily restructure contracts as already mentioned. The issue will be whether he's available and whether the Jets can trade for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 This actually seems a little more realistic than whatshisname. Optimism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 The 49ers took another hit today. I have no idea if that affects how they view keeping Kaepernick but potentially maybe they'll think they need to rebuild (and thus be willing to trade him). I'm almost fine w/ drafting MM at this point though. I've heard people say he's a better version of Kaepernick. The only reason I would want Kaepernick is that he doesn't need a year or two on the bench plus a year or two of playing time before he's developed. I could be wrong but it feels like we have probably a 2-3 year window w/ the defense we've got before we're in salary cap trouble. While I would love to groom a quality young QB (which is really the best way to build a winner), we have an opportunity right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 In case Rivers is available and we cannot get him because of the cap please try to enjoy Cro + Harris to the max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Don't get me wrong I'd take Rivers on this team in a heartbeat if it were possible. Part of the challenge is that Maccagnan has built this team with the assumption of no QB taking up a HUGE chunk of cap space. You'd have to give up a big cap-eater that they'd want. Like Wilkerson with a new deal. But Rivers will turn 34 this season. Is it just assumed QBs are going to play till their 40 nowadays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revis Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Take the 6th pick now. Makes us a contender tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 If we got Rivers (which would be incredible) ESPN might have to move us up into the top-25 in their power rankings. All hell would break loose then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementi49 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Anyone who says they wouldn't take Rivers for whatever reason needs to just stop rooting for this team immediately. Your opinions aren't valid anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Anyone who says they wouldn't take Rivers for whatever reason needs to just stop rooting for this team immediately. Your opinions aren't valid anymore Pretty much. Whatever it took you have to get it done. No player on the team right now would make us more likely to be very competitive this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I just don't see this happening. Rivers might tell the Chargers "trade me to NY and I'll retire" Just don't see this guy uprooting his family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Smokescreen .... Nothing to see here. Mariota won't be a charger and Rivers is betting on himself this year to cash out next year . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 the jets have $5 million in cap room and need $3 million for the rookies and $5 million for in season flexibility. the only way to get rivers is to trade wilkerson and harris or wilkerson and marshall and he's a choker no thanks So if Rivers is a choker what does that make Mark Sanchez? A winner? This is what I hate about sports fans pigeon-holing players as chokers. Eventually the Peyton Mannings and Arods are going to win in the clutch even if they failed in the past. It's law of averages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I just don't see this happening. Rivers might tell the Chargers "trade me to NY and I'll retire" Just don't see this guy uprooting his family. Rivers is going nowhere. This whole thing is a contract negotiation. Rivers sees The money Flacco and Wilson are getting and wants the same type of deal and he knows the chargers have no leverage. So the chargers put out some bs story about wanting mariota over rivers which they would be retarded if that was true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 He's younger than Brees (Rivers is 33, Brees 36). Obviously the concern is him going from San Diego to NY, but then again, Brees is a dome guy. I can't imagine the Chargers giving him a massive deal OR franchising him. So this would make a lot of sense. Rivers DVOA rank since 2006: 2006: 6th 2007: 20th 2008: 1st 2009: 1st 2010: 3rd 2011: 8th 2012: 22nd 2013: 3rd 2014: 10th Conclusion: He's a top 10 QB with several effective years left. If he's available you make the deal for the 6th pick without question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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