Savage69 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Please..REX is below 500 as a coach. Next you'll tell us about how great Chad was in 2002. So was Weeb and most other Jet HC's except the Tuna that had better QB play which is key as most fans know.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komba Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 By everyone you mean for two years and on defense right? He had almost nothing to do with the offensive side of the ball. After the 1st two years, the team steadily declined. A vast majority of draft resources was used on the defense. We all know that rex gets all the credit for the AFC title years and little blame for anything after. If anyone should be hailed as heros of those 1st few years it should be the oc who got them to the afc title with with a rookie wb and lousy big play talent, and yet shotty, then sparano and then Morninweg were always the black hats of the organization. Once the talent level of the D evened off or there was injuires the defense fell on its ass hard. No, he deserves blame for after as well. But ultimately it comes down to how far did the team get when you were in charge? Under Rex the team got pretty damn far. They got farther under Rex than any other coach in my lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetmech Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 People will continue to defend Rex and bypass his failings, BUT there have been three players that have criticized his practices: Davis Mangold Decker And a rookie that has criticized his accountability. Enough said They were sounding off on Geno being late and texting in the "classroom" and well you know playing like garbage.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I thought Geno should have been benched for a half in that game where he was "confused" with the time zone. That would have a sent a message to rest of the team. Great to know the new guy is taking care of this important aspect of team management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 No, he deserves blame for after as well. But ultimately it comes down to how far did the team get when you were in charge? Under Rex the team got pretty damn far. They got farther under Rex than any other coach in my lifetime. And that is why teams like the Jets have decades of utter fail. Even a smidgen of a sniff of a Superbowl appearance gives you tons of team and fan credit to ride on for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Rex sucked. Was he in an Alley ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetmech Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I thought Geno should have been benched for a half in that game where he was "confused" with the time zone. That would have a sent a message to rest of the team. Great to know the new guy is taking care of this important aspect of team management.You're right it was a mistake but what's worse is Geno didn't reciprocate the non-benching by playing like garbage.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 No, he deserves blame for after as well. But ultimately it comes down to how far did the team get when you were in charge? Under Rex the team got pretty damn far. They got farther under Rex than any other coach in my lifetime. Fassel and Bobby Ross for The Hall, baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 The lies never stop from you do they?? You know what I have said about Rex and his faults.. BTW when Mangini went 4-12 in 2007 was that Rex's fault as well?? REX will go down in history much like his dad. There is no defending him. He is what we all see. Well..most of us see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I disliked Rex Ryan for 1 simple reason. He was hired as the HC but instead he was the DC, leaving the team without a HC for 6 yrs. Someone once told me after I stepped down from my job as Manager. "Next time you get the opportunity to command, command". I have never forgotten this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 REX will go down in history much like his dad. There is no defending him. He is what we all see. Well..most of us see. Or liking the 09-10 seasons it's the ISIS mentality hate Rex or die..LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Or liking the 09-10 seasons it's the ISIS mentality hate Rex or die..LOL 2 seasons doesn't make up for 4 seasons without a winning record. Last years 4 wins just took the cake though. If those 2 years justified the last 4 years of garbage then he would still be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 2 seasons doesn't make up for 4 seasons without a winning record. Last years 4 wins just took the cake though. If those 2 years justified the last 4 years of garbage then he would still be here. Look I think Rex should have gone with Tanny my problem is trashing just everything he did.. Rex should have fought to get a decent NFL QB but according to Woody he was silent at owner GM meetings.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Look I think Rex should have gone with Tanny my problem is trashing just everything he did.. Rex should have fought to get a decent NFL QB but according to Woody he was silent at owner GM meetings.. This. Rex had plenty of faults and in all honesty it would have been easier to justify firing him two years ago moreso than it was after this season. With that being said, he did some amazing things here that no other coach in my lifetime has come close to. Parcells did but he needed a pro-bowl QB to do it. What Rex did with Mark Sanchez was unreal. Nearly went to a SB with the worst QB in the NFL on his roster...how often do we see that in the NFL other than never? I'm fine with sending him packing, but all the love for Mangini and Pettine along with my favorite claim of "Rex knows nothing about football" is just insanity. Mangini did nothing with a HOF QB, Pettine took less than one season to have his team go off the rails...or is it "on the rails"...not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 By everyone you mean for two years and on defense right? He had almost nothing to do with the offensive side of the ball. After the 1st two years, the team steadily declined. A vast majority of draft resources was used on the defense. We all know that rex gets all the credit for the AFC title years and little blame for anything after. If anyone should be hailed as heros of those 1st few years it should be the oc who got them to the afc title with with a rookie wb and lousy big play talent, and yet shotty, then sparano and then Morninweg were always the black hats of the organization. Once the talent level of the D evened off or there was injuires the defense fell on its ass hard. I like Rex and I am surely labeled firmly in the apologist camp, but I would never dispute those reasons to dislike him. I had hoped that they hired Idzik to be the boss, put together a team that could actually move the ball and force Rex to gameplan on D. Unfortunately, it seems that Idzik was inept and they were just at odds philosophically. If I were King of the Jets I would have given Rex CBs and forced him to deal with stopping the run and developing pass rush by scheme. That seems like what Bowles intends to do. Even a bad contract to DRC would have been preferable to Patterson and aging scrubs like Vick and Johnson. I would have invested heavily, both in money and draft, on the offense. Maybe Idzik did this, but his short term draft results were so poor we can't really be sure. One thing about Idzik is that he seemed sort of combine/speed crazy. That is not much of a surprise when you consider the premium the Seahawks place on athletes - they are apparently obsessed with cornerback arm length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Or liking the 09-10 seasons it's the ISIS mentality hate Rex or die..LOL Are you workshopping an ISIS bit for your Groundlings audition, or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 And Cumar had the Tuna as his daddy.. And some people thought Lamont Jordan would be the savior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 . What Rex did with Mark Sanchez was unreal. In 2009 and 2010 Sanchez was not close to the worst qb in the league, in terms of stats. 2010 was actually a good year for him. After that, he progressively got worse. Maybe it was the mentors, that they gave him. In fact, last year, I believe Sanchez broke the Eagles record for season completion percentage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Being a Jets fan and loving Bill Parcells makes about as much sense as rooting for the Mets. Wait, you root for the Jets, and yet have the audacity to criticize someone else for rooting for the Mets? Are you daffy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Bill Parcells on Geno Smith infamously missing a meeting: http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2014/10/bill_parcells_on_geno_smiths_missed_meeting_i_dont_think_it_was_a_big_deal_1.html or even if he did commit a crime----see LT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 And some people thought Lamont Jordan would be the savior He did better in the playoffs then Martin ever did.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Wait, you root for the Jets, and yet have the audacity to criticize someone else for rooting for the Mets? Are you daffy? If you know the history of how the Mets treated the Jets when they were their landlord I don't see how any self-respecting Jets fan could root for that team. That is what is "daffy," my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 IMO Rex was a better defensive coach game plan wise. Parcells was world's better in terms of administration/team culture. yet rex could never figure out 3rd and long and hold leads late in game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Rex is a punk. He has some positive qualities, but they are mainly limited to interacting with his players and hogging all the attention. His teams underachieved in 2009 & 2010 and Rex was NOT the reason they had a great run in the playoffs. The team's talent & accountability only exponentially deteriorated once Rex's fingerprints were all over the roster (defensive drafts , signing washed up WRs like Mason & Burress). Rex is a quick fix pimp. Yes, he was fun. Yes, he made us laugh. But he never won us ANYTHING. losing back 2 back AFCCG is nothing to be proud of and that argument of validation for Rex expired in 2012. We're better off without him, we're better Jets fan in part due to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Are you workshopping an ISIS bit for your Groundlings audition, or what? Nah I'm on a Mo watch to make sure he don't join if he doesn't get the contract he wants..LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Rex is a punk. He has some positive qualities, but they are mainly limited to interacting with his players and hogging all the attention. His teams underachieved in 2009 & 2010 and Rex was NOT the reason they had a great run in the playoffs. The team's talent & accountability only exponentially deteriorated once Rex's fingerprints were all over the roster (defensive drafts , signing washed up WRs like Mason & Burress). Rex is a quick fix pimp. Yes, he was fun. Yes, he made us laugh. But he never won us ANYTHING. losing back 2 back AFCCG is nothing to be proud of and that argument of validation for Rex expired in 2012. We're better off without him, we're better Jets fan in part due to him. Yet losing to Denver in the AFCCG was?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Yet losing to Denver in the AFCCG was?? Random uncorrelated Tangent post that has nothing to do with the topic conversed, anybody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Random uncorrelated Tangent post that has nothing to do with the topic conversed, anybody? Not really you were saying Rex losing 2 AFCCG's was nothing to be proud of then neither is losing one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 His teams underachieved in 2009 & 2010 Forget the rest. That statement borders on insanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Look I think Rex should have gone with Tanny my problem is trashing just everything he did.. Rex should have fought to get a decent NFL QB but according to Woody he was silent at owner GM meetings.. You trash most everything CuMar did, why the fuss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 If you know the history of how the Mets treated the Jets when they were their landlord I don't see how any self-respecting Jets fan could root for that team. That is what is "daffy," my friend. You want me to worry about 1977? The city was as much at fault as the Mets. I don't see how any self respecting Jet fan could root for the Yankees. So we are even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 You trash most everything CuMar did, why the fuss? You can't find one post I ever made trashing Cumar.. Unless because I don't think he was the best Jet back ever you consider that trashing him?? If I say Adrian Murrell out rushed him on less carries on a 1-15 team and Martin was on a bowl team that's a fact it's not trashing.. Unless of course like many Martinette's the truth should never be allowed for poor little Cumar.. Or is it because I call him the compiler??? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 You want me to worry about 1977? The city was as much at fault as the Mets. I don't see how any self respecting Jet fan could root for the Yankees. So we are even. Meh... I was born in the Bronx. The Yankees are my birthright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 In fact, last year, I believe Sanchez broke the Eagles record for season completion percentage. He also had 11 INT's in just 309 throws with a supposed QB whisperer as his HC. This represented a higher INT/ATT ratio (3.6 %) than his 2010 (2.6 %) and 2011 (3.3 %) seasons and only slightly lower than his disastrous campaign in 2012 (4.0 %). He also had 7 fumbles in his 9 games and displayed the same knack for allowing far too many sacks (23) like he he did in New York. Sanchez sucks. It's not a reason to defend Rex, but he sucks nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 You can't find one post I ever made trashing Cumar.. Unless because I don't think he was the best Jet back ever you consider that trashing him?? If I say Adrian Murrell out rushed him on less carries on a 1-15 team and Martin was on a bowl team that's a fact it's not trashing.. Unless of course like many Martinette's the truth should never be allowed for poor little Cumar.. Or is it because I call him the compiler??? LOL I understand Martin's role in history. Just making sure you understand Rex's also. Both ran their course. Then again, as I said earlier, you were pumping Lamont Jordan, weren't you at the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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