Klecko73isGod Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 At I'm sure it did in court when all the evidence was presented. A little ridiculous to believe Kraft knew enough about the crime/investigation to be able to catch the fact that Hernandez was making a statement against interest at that time. That's a real stretch. Kraft said "were you involved?" Hernandez said "I was in the club all night, I couldn't have." Kraft said "Ok." To expect Kraft to think like a detective at that moment and say "But whataminute... how do you know time of death?" Is a pretty big stretch IMO. Kraft did know that Hernandez was accused of murder and didn't cut him until he would have been wasting a roster spot on a player that couldn't possibly participate. That's really the main point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Kraft did know that Hernandez was accused of murder and didn't cut him until he would have been wasting a roster spot on a player that couldn't possibly participate. That's really the main point. He was not accused at that time. He was a suspect/person of interest. Perfectly reasonable to wait until he was arrested. Lots of people are initially suspected of something when police cast a wide net. They made the decision to cut him the second he was arrested, which they did. The manufactured outrage here is a little incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Perfectly reasonable to wait until he was arrested. Lots of people are initially suspected of something when police cast a wide net. They made the decision to cut him the second he was arrested, which they did. The manufactured outrage here is a little incredulous. You're no fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 You're no fun. If Patriots are guilty of anything it is believing their own "Patriots Way" schlock and that they have perfected the formula to turn thug turds into boy scouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 If Patriots are guilty of anything it is believing their own "Patriots Way" schlock and that they have perfected the formula to turn thug turds into boy scouts. Which is a point I made earlier. It's a big part of the reason they drafted Hernandez in the first place. Belichick convinced himself that being around his coterie of ass-kissing yes men would fix him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Which is a point I made earlier. It's a big part of the reason they drafted Hernandez in the first place. Belichick convinced himself that being around his coterie of ass-kissing yes men would fix him. They are as arrogant a team that has ever existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_in_pads02 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 If Patriots are guilty of anything it is believing their own "Patriots Way" schlock and that they have perfected the formula to turn thug turds into boy scouts. Thkx for your few post. I know there are reasonable jet fans here. But this "patriot way" crap is laughable. That term was used back in 01 after 9/11 n the football team don't even use it now. Just hurt fans mad cuz they win. They do business better than everyone else point blank. Every team has a "patriot" way about them.. It's called running your team how you believe it should be run. Again patriots just do it better than most..n some jet fans are hurt n obsessed about it. Must suck to be them..torture souls.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Thkx for your few post. I know there are reasonable jet fans here. But this "patriot way" crap is laughable. That term was used back in 01 after 9/11 n the football team don't even use it now. Just hurt fans mad cuz they win. They do business better than everyone else point blank. Every team has a "patriot" way about them.. It's called running your team how you believe it should be run. Again patriots just do it better than most..n some jet fans are hurt n obsessed about it. Must suck to be them..torture souls.. There is a lot to envy about how the Pats are run... and a lot to despise. I could learn to deal with the negatives if the Jets won using similar methods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Somewhere in that prison is a another 'nothing to lose' Lifer who's been lifting weights years longer and who is twice the size of Aaron and is a Jets, Bills or Dolphin fan Karma baby, karma... Instead of 'squeal like a Piggy', it will be 'Aaron, sing the Jets/Bill or Dolphins chant' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_in_pads02 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 There is a lot to envy about how the Pats are run... and a lot to despise. I could learn to deal with the negatives if the Jets won using similar methods. jets have to get the right "football guys" in there to run their franchise correctly n they should be fine.. It's taken their owner too long to get a clue..seems like they might be on the right track now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 There is a lot to envy about how the Pats are run... and a lot to despise. I could learn to deal with the negatives if the Jets won using similar methods. Winner winner chicken dinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Just another heathen from the dirtiest franchise in pro football history. And yes that out bids the Raiders of the 70s. Over 15 years of cheating in the NFL and still doing it today with deflate gate. Good thing atleast one of them got what he deserved. Scumbag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 They are as arrogant a team that has ever existed. In assume you never saw the Raiders of the 60's and 70's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 In assume you never saw the Raiders of the 60's and 70's? no he wasnt born yet.. They cheated for sure,, greased shirts, stickum, bugged locker rooms at halftime (if u believe Jets coach Walt Michaels) and Maddens famous quote of taking a roughing penalty on purpose against teams best Offensive player on 1st series to ste tone and intimidate. He said , 'Hey, they are 80 yards for endzone, perfect time to take a 15 yd penalty to set tone' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 so which patriot is the most shameful, hernandez or christian peter ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 so the pats* hall of shame now includes murder rape cheating ped's player named leagues dirtiest player bribery trying to keep $1,000,000 from a dead man what am I missing ? Adultery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 It will be nice when the Pats recoup the $40MM signing bonus. It got tossed out in the mystery box Shayanna spent all night driving around trying to find a dumpster for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flushing Roots Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Maybe he'll show some expression in the can when he gets it up the can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 While I believed he was guilty, I also thought it was very unlikely that they were going to get a murder 1 conviction, No weapon, no witness and no motive. Props to the prosecutors office on a great job. 1. No weapon. If the gun he flaunted (that mysteriously disappeared) wasn't the murder weapon, ballistic tests would've helped the defense. He discarded the gun for a reason and one reason only. 2. No witness. Ortiz and Wallace are witnesses and they're about to spill the whole story. 3. No motive. What motive did he have for shooting others? A spilled drink at a bar? Thank god no teammate dumped Gatorade on him. I'm sure jurors did some research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetophile Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 I almost forgot that Jose Baez took over as AH's attorney. Obviously, Aaron Hernandez is paying for his representation. Baez will do anything for the spotlight. Anyway, I've been keeping loose tabs on the second trial. https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/03/09/aaron-hernandez-defense-suggests-slaying-was-gunfight-rather-than-one-sided-attack/EWOajXfhqVJuxheLWMcfqJ/story.html Sorry for the hatchet copy and paste job and all of the empty white space at the bottom. I was trying to get rid of as much annoying extraneous crap in the article as possible. Quote Aaron Hernandez defense suggests slaying was a gunfight, rather than one-sided attack By Travis Andersen GLOBE STAFF MARCH 09, 2017 Hernandez has pleaded not guilty to charges of killing Daniel de Abreu and Safiro Furtado in an early morning drive-by shooting on July 16, 2012, in Boston’s South End. He allegedly fired into the BMW from the front passenger seat of a Toyota 4Runner, after de Abreu bumped into him at a nightclub hours earlier and caused him to spill his drink. On Wednesday in Suffolk Superior Court, defense attorney Jose Baez asked Aquilino Freire, a BMW occupant who was shot in the arm, if he recalled telling a nurse that “both of your friends were killed in a gunfight.” “I might” have, Freire said. The defense contends the driver of the 4Runner, Alexander Bradley, Hernandez’s former friend and marijuana supplier, shot the victims in a dispute over a drug deal. Hernandez is also charged with shooting Bradley in Florida in February 2013 in a failed effort to silence him about the killings. Bradley, currently jailed for an unrelated gun offense, will testify for prosecutors under an immunity deal. Prosecutor Patrick Haggan on Wednesday aggressively pushed back against the notion that a predawn gun battle had taken place at the murder scene. “You just said it’s possible that you used the word ‘gunfight,’” Haggan said to Freire during re-direct examination. “I don’t remember that,” Freire said. Haggan then asked Freire, a native of Cape Verde, if his English has improved since 2012, and he said it has gotten “way better.” The prosecutor then asked if there was an exchange of gunfire between the two cars.“There wasn’t, no,” Freire said. Freire stared toward Hernandez when he stepped down from the witness stand Wednesday. Hernandez was shielded by a court officer. The once-promising athlete is already serving a life sentence for the June 2013 fatal shooting of Odin Lloyd, a 27-year-old Dorchester man who dated the sister of Hernandez’s fiancée. An appeal of his first-degree murder conviction in that case will be heard at a later date. Testimony in the double murder trial resumes Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetophile Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Well, I guess that was mildly interesting. The one-eyed guy Bradley who got shot in the face and got immunity, the girlfriend who cleaned. Trial about to close. If Hernandez gets a not guilty verdict - which he in all probability will not - what does that do for him? Odin Lloyd was still shot dead, but it paves the way for an appeal. I suppose that was part of the point. Never getting out, didn't get the juice; but if he's acquitted of the double pop pop, he might be able to sell ice cubes on a street corner in the desert someday. Ah, well, American jurisprudence isn't always wrong, but fukk Aaron Hernandez. Goddamn, I once saw this ass forensics show where a woman poisoned her husband for a 100K life insurance policy because she wanted to open a tropical fish store. I never looked at Fish Town USA on 17 the same way again. Ugh, could the lead up to Paterson Plank Road ever be made worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 The Pats have taken Joe Mixon off their draft board due to character issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetophile Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 36 minutes ago, Beerfish said: The Pats have taken Joe Mixon off their draft board due to character issues. Haha, shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Not guilty this time Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, DetroitRed said: Not guilty this time Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Sign this beast. jk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 32 minutes ago, DetroitRed said: Not guilty this time Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app I think it was Eli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Sign this innocent beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Justice system fails again. Least shocking news ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCEastFan Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 He got convicted on the gun possession charge though. That will get him at least two games from Goodell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Jose Baez..........ugh. If karma is a thing he is in line for some nasty sh!t during his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Dude's already in jail so it really doesn't matter for him. Sad for the families Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Wait, how did he dodge this? Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetophile Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Color me Clarence Darrowed. It was Colonel Mustard with the revolver in the Library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Jose baez. This guy is good. Hes got some high profile wins on his resume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Free Aaron. Amirite, Pats fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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