Shockwave Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Mcnown is older but could probably be better then Fitz. On that crap team last year he played excellent at times. Through 8 Games was on pace for 4200 yards, 24 TD, 8 Int, and 64%. I could see Denver trading a late pick for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Don't forget McCown's best play came for CHI in 2013 when Cutler went out. On that team he had Marshall & Forte: http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/3609/josh-mccown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 BUMP Links are on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 12 tds and 4 Ints for a terrible Browns team last year. When he had weapons in Chicago, he put up 13tds and 1 Int in 8 games. Not suggesting Mccown is the answer, but how do we know he is worse than Fitz? Most of the people bashing Mccown were the same ones bashing Fitz before last year. Both are journeyman QBs that can win with the right talent. Not to mention he is familiar with both Forte and Marshall. And he excelled with both of them in Chicago a couple of years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Mccown doesnt totally suck and if he's less expensive than Fitz I'm ok with that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Just now, Matt39 said: Mccown doesnt totally suck and if he's less expensive than Fitz I'm ok with that one. as long as they don't give up a draft pick for him i'm ok with it, they only have 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, KRL said: Don't forget McCown's best play came for CHI in 2013 when Cutler went out. On that team he had Marshall & Forte: http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/3609/josh-mccown http://www.nfl.com/player/mattforte/234/gamelogs?season=2013 http://www.nfl.com/player/brandonmarshall/2495893/gamelogs?season=2013 Good call. Both Forte and Marshall had a better 8 games than with Cutler the first 8 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I'm on board with Fitz at Reasonable # ... Glennon giving up 3rd or less ... Or McCown ... Besides the 4.4 mil anyone know if there are any other #'s involved for future years? i don't want any of the other guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I would definitely take McCown if we can't sign Fitz. I would go in this direction. A capable lower tier Qb who is actually better than this and when given a chance to start has done well. But I don't think the Browns would just give him away unless they sign RG3 and draft a Qb in the first round. But how many times have they drafted a Qb in the first round anyways. If I'm them I'd keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsamuel84 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 50 minutes ago, JiF said: If not for that play we probably lose that Brown game, played pretty awful for most of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 IMO McGown has more natural talent than Fitz. Equal sorta players but he has more natural ability.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 How can ANYBODY be crappy with Marshall, Decker, Forte, and Treadwell (once he drops and we pounce)?! Weapinzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 12 minutes ago, drsamuel84 said: If not for that play we probably lose that Brown game, played pretty awful for most of it. Yeah, I posted it partly because the hit was awesome but also because he's a moron and ruined a 10 minute drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 16 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: IMO McGown has more natural talent than Fitz. Equal sorta players but he has more natural ability.... I like the idea of bringing in McCown (decent/cheap competition for Geno), but saying he has more natural talent than Fitz is like me pointing out I have bigger boobs than Natalie Portman. True, but who doesn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=due%20diligence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Josh McCown? Please God no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I'd take a chance on that dirtbag Manziel before wanting Josh McWhoever. Please no. I don't want a Browns leftover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 6 minutes ago, pointman said: I'd take a chance on that dirtbag Manziel before wanting Josh McWhoever. Please no. I don't want a Browns leftover. I won't negative Rep you for that comment (I feel like a Tween typing that) but GOOD GOD MAN!!!!!! Manziel?!?!?! Really? that's just a HORRIBLE IDEA. McCown is WAY more competent a QB by EXPERIENCE ALONE than that alcoholic adderral snorting smurf from the A&M. We need COMPETENT Veteran QB play, not NY Post Page 6 headlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Lynch Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 The big factor in all of this is Gailey, (a guy I did't want when it was 1st rumored he was coming here). He seems to have the talent to get a lot out of medium quality QB's who have had a bit of playing time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Hate to mention this but: If were looking for a QB just for 1 or 2 years Mccown might be the way to go ESPECIALLY if hes released. Fitz will get atleast 8-10m somewhere meaning that hell likely garner a 3rd round comp pick. McCown may also be much cheaper (Hell be roughly 4m yearly). So the equation will be: Fitz @ 10million OR McCown @ 4m PLUS a 3rd round Comp pick. In that case Mccown is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, Shockwave said: Hate to mention this but: If were looking for a QB just for 1 or 2 years Mccown might be the way to go ESPECIALLY if hes released. Fitz will get atleast 8-10m somewhere meaning that hell likely garner a 3rd round comp pick. McCown may also be much cheaper (Hell be roughly 4m yearly). So the equation will be: Fitz @ 10million OR McCown @ 4m PLUS a 3rd round Comp pick. In that case Mccown is the way to go. All except for this upcoming season..... Fitz is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 35 minutes ago, Gas2No99 said: I won't negative Rep you for that comment (I feel like a Tween typing that) but GOOD GOD MAN!!!!!! Manziel?!?!?! Really? that's just a HORRIBLE IDEA. McCown is WAY more competent a QB by EXPERIENCE ALONE than that alcoholic adderral snorting smurf from the A&M. We need COMPETENT Veteran QB play, not NY Post Page 6 headlines. I don't want Manziel. I just really don't want McCown. Zero upside to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 o no o no no no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Had Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 18 minutes ago, Paradis said: Lynch Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I think this is what will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 54 minutes ago, pointman said: I'd take a chance on that dirtbag Manziel before wanting Josh McWhoever. Please no. I don't want a Browns leftover. 9 minutes ago, pointman said: I don't want Manziel. I just really don't want McCown. Zero upside to him. You're contradicting yourself. Regardless, whoever is picked up is NOT the final answer to our problems at QB. And is there any MORE upside with Fitzy? At least McCown has a stronger arm. Neither are LONGTERM answers, merely HOLD THE FORT guys - "Bridges" or temporary "Gate Keepers" - until MacCags ACTUALLY lands the YOUNG QB he wants to be the foundation of this franchise. Unless Petty develops or we hit the lotto on a QB in the draft (Wentz, Lynch, HOGAN!!!, or Adams Jr.) then we're merely remaining COMPETITIVE with a SAVY VETERAN COMPETENT QB until said opportunity presents itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Take McCown this year and we have to be certain his replacement is being developed this year or next. At thirty-six he has little time left in the league before age and/or injury takes him to retirement. That means the front office is either warm on Petty or certain to take a first round QB in the draft this year or next. It would almost certainly mean Geno is out after this year because if Geno could be the default vet starter then you don't need Fitz or McCown to hold the fort. I can't say I'm thrilled to see McCown at QB but I can accept the logic if he's holding the position while we coach up the potential future of the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 2 hours ago, Gas2No99 said: News of Brussels, Phife Dawg, and now POSSIBLY trading for McCown - $HIIIIITTTTTTY week of bad news and it's ONLY WEDNESDAY! Just heard about Phife. Dude died really young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Hate to mention this but: If were looking for a QB just for 1 or 2 years Mccown might be the way to go ESPECIALLY if hes released. Fitz will get atleast 8-10m somewhere meaning that hell likely garner a 3rd round comp pick. McCown may also be much cheaper (Hell be roughly 4m yearly). So the equation will be: Fitz @ 10million OR McCown @ 4m PLUS a 3rd round Comp pick. In that case Mccown is the way to go. A 3rd round comp pick for Fitz? Do you even know how comp picks work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 1 hour ago, munchmemory said: Josh McCown? Please God no. ^^^^^^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: A 3rd round comp pick for Fitz? Do you even know how comp picks work? Do you? Assuming he starts somewhere (Denver?) and makes 9m a year or more he will fetch a very good comp pick. http://overthecap.com/compensatory-draft-picks-cancellation-chart/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Before last season, none of the guys we are hearing about were regarded as a big step down from Fitz. Which makes me think Gailey could do something with some of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 3 hours ago, Paradis said: OKay we have to talk about this. If true, then you couldn't scream any louder: "we're drafting a qb in round 1" Everything they've done continues to suggest that finding a vet QB right now is nothing more than for insurance purposes. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I don't think it's a secret that the Jets are looking for a young QB. If we don't pick one this year in R1, then it'll absolutely happen next year when we can trade all the comp picks in a move-up to 1 overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 7 minutes ago, Shockwave said: Do you? Assuming he starts somewhere (Denver?) and makes 9m a year or more he will fetch a very good comp pick. http://overthecap.com/compensatory-draft-picks-cancellation-chart/ In looking at that chart, I don't see how Forte can be considered as equal compensation to what we lost in Harrison. $4m - $9 mil AYS. We should get a 3rd rd. comp for that IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 1 minute ago, Integrity28 said: I don't think it's a secret that the Jets are looking for a young QB. If we don't pick one this year in R1, then it'll absolutely happen next year when we can trade all the comp picks in a move-up to 1 overall. +1 Next year will will draft the golden child.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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