The NY Jets staff hate Geno Smith

[SAR I]

Just now, Villain The Foe said:

I know, it's just one of those subjects that can get out of control even when in jest. We don't need anymore people going super Saiyan or putting up Madea gifs. 

You have every right to like/dislike a player. Just don't want things getting out of hand because the forum sucks when the mods have to micromanage us like children. 

Keep your position though! **** Chad! 

Agree completely.  Now why is it that Geno doesn't suck again?

SAR I

[win4ever]

2 hours ago, SAR I said:

I didn't realize until now that you're the guy who puts up the threads breaking down the quarterback each week so I humbly apologize and withdraw this tangent, I am not worthy of your time for such an argument, your threads are awesome and you clearly know more about the QB position than I ever will.

Best regards,

SAR I

Thank you, although I don't feel like I'm any more qualified than you or any of the other posters here because I do make plenty of mistakes in those articles.  

1 hour ago, section314 said:

I'll bet anybody on the board a beer and burger in the parking lot Sunday that if Geno was cut today, he wouldn't even get a sniff.

Now this won't happen because there is almost no chance he gets dropped before the game, but he would absolutely get a shot with another team.  Infact, if you go look at Brock Oswellier stat's his last season, and Geno's stats in 2014, they aren't that different.  Ossweiler is slightly better, but he also had a team that was much better, and look at the contract he got.  I'm not saying Geno should start looking at private planes to buy, but he would absolutely get a shot.  

[Villain The Foe]

4 minutes ago, SAR I said:

Agree completely.  Now why is it that Geno doesn't suck again?

SAR I

I think things are being misunderstood. All we're saying is that we rather see what a young guy on a rookie contract could do instead of a 34 year-old that everyone has said "we know what he is". That's all. 

[Jet Nut]

5 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

I think things are being misunderstood. All we're saying is that we rather see what a young guy on a rookie contract could do instead of a 34 year-old that everyone has said "we know what he is". That's all. 

And because there's at least a chance he's a better QB than he was in 2014.  While we know what Fitz is after all these years and it's not good enough. 

[jeremy2020]

10 minutes ago, SAR I said:

Agree completely.  Now why is it that Geno doesn't suck again?

SAR I

All this time Geno has been operating on the assumption that there are 12 zodiac signs. Now that NASA has revleaed there is a 13th sign, he is reading the correct horoscope and is no longer one of the worst QBs to ever play for the Jets, but a future hall of famer.

[Villain The Foe]

4 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

And because there's at least a chance he's a better QB than he was in 2014.  While we know what Fitz is after all these years and it's not good enough. 

Exactly. No one has ever said that the Jets are benching a bona-fide Starter, but to say that Geno or any young guy on the roster has no chance I disagree with...especially when we all know what Fitz is.

[section314]

1 hour ago, Villain The Foe said:

I'd take that bet. The two biggest busts of the 20th and 21st century both got sniffs. Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russell. 

Geno is a 2nd or 3rd string qb at worst at this point. 

Want to bet a friendly wager Geno is on a team next year? 

You're on!

[Jetsplayer21]

It is embarrassing Fitzpatrick is playing as bad as what we assume geno would be. We say geno is an idiot, fitz is the genius boy.. I don't know about that on the field. Some of the throws fitz makes you think he doesnt have a brain. 

     Geno stunk with bad receivers and a coach who is  a qb nightmare , Rex Ryan. Fitzpatrick is bad with great vet receivers and a very competent OC who works well with the HC.. Before the " know it all coach coaches " put all their $ on geno failing in this improvement environment, let's actually see him play 1 game in it first.. I hope it doesn't come to that, maybe Fitzpatrick wakes up and realizes he will never be chosen to play on a team with this much talent around him ( if he ever gets another starting gig anywhere). It's early, but I'm glad to see Bowles pretty much put him on notice..

[Warfish]

1 hour ago, Villain The Foe said:

It's hateful, but not racist. Can we keep Max from locking this thread? Thanks. 

Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, George Bush, Donald Trump, Sarah Palin, John McCain.

Democrats, Liberals, Republicans, Conservatives, Libertarians, Anarchists, Socialists, Communists.

Rabble, Rabble, Rabble.

 

In short, lock city baby.

[Warfish]

26 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said:

It is embarrassing Fitzpatrick is playing as bad as what we assume geno would be. We say geno is an idiot, fitz is the genius boy.. I don't know about that on the field. Some of the throws fitz makes you think he doesnt have a brain. 

Fitz graduated from Harvard, an Ivy League School with no football scholarships, with a (I believe) Mathematics degree and has the highest Wonderlic in NFL history.

Geno Smith graduated (I presume) for West Virginia, a party school of the top order, as a full ride scholarship athlete, with an English Degree and a middling Wonderlic score.

Yes, Fitz is demonstrably more intelligent by any reasonable metric.

But that doesn't mean he's a smarter QB or makes better decisions in the moment.

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Geno stunk with bad receivers and a coach who is  a qb nightmare , Rex Ryan. Fitzpatrick is bad with great vet receivers and a very competent OC who works well with the HC.

Geno was the worst QB in the NFL for two years, his first two.  Not bad, the worst.  In admittedly hard conditions.

He then got beat up by his own guy in a situation he could have easily avoided.  He then failed to beat out an absent Fitz in offseason 2016, and in camp/preseason 2016.

Fitz was brought in to back up, got the job because of Geno's immaturity-caused injury, and set a franchise record and we had a great, if ultimately disappointing at the end, season.

Geno could have come in, and shown himself better to Bowles and Macc and Chan and Co.  He didn't.  So we resigned Fitz and he's the #1 again. 

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Before the " know it all coach coaches " put all their $ on geno failing in this improvement environment, let's actually see him play 1 game in it first.

Bowles and Macc and Chan don't seem to agree with you, and don't seem to want to see that (or, perhaps, don;t think they need to see that).

Try to remember that all us "know it all coaches", yourself included, have no control over what the team does or does not do.

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I hope it doesn't come to that, maybe Fitzpatrick wakes up and realizes he will never be chosen to play on a team with this much talent around him ( if he ever gets another starting gig anywhere).

Fitz is what he is, expecting more is folly.  He's a below-average Journeyman QB with enough talent to turn a 7th round selection into an 11 year+ career and hundreds of starts, but not good enough to carry a team or win games on his back regularly, or to handle good teams at all some days.

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It's early, but I'm glad to see Bowles pretty much put him on notice.

Putting Fitz on notice would have been benching him after INT #4, standard NFL procedure.

The fact he didn't says far more than any words Bowles said afterwards.

Gird your loins, when and if the time comes, we're very likely to see Petty get a shot.  Not Geno.

[BigRy56]

I really hope Fitz goes out and beats Seattle so we can rid ourselves of this conversation (at least for 1 week)..........

[Villain The Foe]

2 hours ago, Warfish said:

Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, George Bush, Donald Trump, Sarah Palin, John McCain.

Democrats, Liberals, Republicans, Conservatives, Libertarians, Anarchists, Socialists, Communists.

Rabble, Rabble, Rabble.

 

In short, lock city baby.

The habitual line crosser! lol

[August]

How can Geno win a job he wasn't even in contention for? Geno couldve looked like Aaron Rodgers in the offseason and Fitzpatrick would still be the starter when he eventually resigned. 

[SAR I]

4 hours ago, Villain The Foe said:

I think things are being misunderstood. All we're saying is that we rather see what a young guy on a rookie contract could do instead of a 34 year-old that everyone has said "we know what he is". That's all. 

Under normal circumstances I'd wholeheartedly agree, I'm always on the side of the next young buck worth a look, but the last thing we need is a guy taking first-team snaps from Bryce Petty.  No knock on Geno, but his contract is done in 4 months and we need to validate Petty before the draft, can't hit April with Fitz gone, Geno gone, Petty an unknown, and the 15th pick, would set us back yet another year.

SAR I

[SAR I]

4 hours ago, jeremy2020 said:

All this time Geno has been operating on the assumption that there are 12 zodiac signs. Now that NASA has revleaed there is a 13th sign, he is reading the correct horoscope and is no longer one of the worst QBs to ever play for the Jets, but a future hall of famer.

SAR I

[afjetsfan]

I think we can all name a team where Geno would look like the next first ballot hall of famer.....hint they play in our division.

[Villain The Foe]

1 hour ago, SAR I said:

Under normal circumstances I'd wholeheartedly agree, I'm always on the side of the next young buck worth a look, but the last thing we need is a guy taking first-team snaps from Bryce Petty.  No knock on Geno, but his contract is done in 4 months and we need to validate Petty before the draft, can't hit April with Fitz gone, Geno gone, Petty an unknown, and the 15th pick, would set us back yet another year.

SAR I

This is where the two of us differ. What do you mean by "under normal circumstances"? It's not a personal thing. You find the right QB, no matter who it is. The Jets messed up by resigning Ryan Fitzpatrick. Sure, business wise it was correct to do (which I will explain). It's the job of the GM to put together a team that the Coach can win games with. However, if Geno is not in the plans then you release him. 

I understand what you're saying with his contract being over in 4 months, but if he's no use to the team then why keep 4 QB's on the team? This is why I dont ascribe to the notion that Geno is irrelevant to the Jets future, even on his last year. The purpose is to find your quarterback, not overlook them. 

 

Im not saying that Geno's the answer, or Petty/Hackenberg, im saying that fans (us) tend to be influenced by our emotions of a guy we like/dislike. This is a business. You know why Geno wasnt cut? Because Petty and Hackenberg werent ready to play that spot. You know why Fitz was signed? Because Macc couldnt get a team to get him out of dealing with Fitz contract demands. No other team would touch Fitz. However, not resigning Fitz while still available after 5 months and running the risk of losing games wouldnt be received the same as signing Fitz and running the risk of losing games. If Fitz would have signed with another team during FA then Macc would have been in the clear because Macc KNEW what Fitz was. This is why Fitz was on the market for 5 months, because the league also knew what Fitz was. Fans have quickly forgotten that. If we had a poor season the first thing that would be said is "If we had Fitz we would have won". Sure, there's no guarantee to that, but this is the way it would have looked, especially if we would have just left him in free agency. However, as we can see, we signed Fitz and its indeed not a guarantee. Macc tried to get away from Fitz contract demands but no other team would touch him and Macc had no choice but to sign him given last years over achievement. That was the business aspect of this situation.

 

The reason why this GM didnt go all "balls out" and just stuck with Geno/Petty  is because Petty wasnt ready and Geno wasnt a guy that Macc brought in. However, Macc understands that Geno is still a talent, no matter the personal opinion of him. That circumstance is as normal as any other around the league. You cut loose what you dont need and keep the rest. 

Think about it. We cut Dee Milliner then put him on IR only to cut him again. He wasnt disliked AND we have problems in our secondary...yet Macc still found a reason to cut him. Why is he not finding a similar reason to cut Geno? That scenario right there should tell you that our assumptions based on our feelings on Geno dont affect Macc the same way. 

[joewilly12]

JERSEY CITY — Two months ago, ex-Jets linebacker and current CBS analyst Bart Scott harshly criticized free agent quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick. 

Among many other things, Scott said, "It's all downhill right now for Fitz."

Analyzing Jets' Muhammad Wilkerson contract

On Thursday, Scott clarified those comments, while explaining why Geno Smith could be an upgrade over Fitzpatrick, if the Jets wind up going with Smith. (Fitzpatrick is still locked in a contract standoff with the Jets.) 

"I'm sure they would want to reward him for what he was able to do," Scott told NJ Advance Media, regarding Fitzpatrick. "But at the end of the day, we would be having a different conversation if they would've made it to the playoffs. I didn't say he doesn't have much left. What I'm saying is, Geno went 8-8 [in 2013] with Clyde Gates and some other receivers that we didn't know of." 

Quick aside: Clyde Gates! 

Anyway, back to Scott's comments:

"Geno bring something to the table because he can throw the long ball, so it makes defenses have to step back and play more honestly, defend the entire field, because he can throw the 70-yard bomb on a rope. Fitz has to step into that. He can throw the same route, but he has to let it go earlier, which doesn't allow the big receivers or the speed of [Eric] Decker to separate. So he has to throw it up, and they have to go get it. That's just what it is, man. I wasn't trying to cause any controversy, but I just understand the business side of it, from both sides, because I've been in that same situation."

[Saul Goodman]

3 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

JERSEY CITY — Two months ago, ex-Jets linebacker and current CBS analyst Bart Scott harshly criticized free agent quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick. 

Among many other things, Scott said, "It's all downhill right now for Fitz."

Analyzing Jets' Muhammad Wilkerson contract

On Thursday, Scott clarified those comments, while explaining why Geno Smith could be an upgrade over Fitzpatrick, if the Jets wind up going with Smith. (Fitzpatrick is still locked in a contract standoff with the Jets.) 

"I'm sure they would want to reward him for what he was able to do," Scott told NJ Advance Media, regarding Fitzpatrick. "But at the end of the day, we would be having a different conversation if they would've made it to the playoffs. I didn't say he doesn't have much left. What I'm saying is, Geno went 8-8 [in 2013] with Clyde Gates and some other receivers that we didn't know of." 

Quick aside: Clyde Gates! 

Anyway, back to Scott's comments:

"Geno bring something to the table because he can throw the long ball, so it makes defenses have to step back and play more honestly, defend the entire field, because he can throw the 70-yard bomb on a rope. Fitz has to step into that. He can throw the same route, but he has to let it go earlier, which doesn't allow the big receivers or the speed of [Eric] Decker to separate. So he has to throw it up, and they have to go get it. That's just what it is, man. I wasn't trying to cause any controversy, but I just understand the business side of it, from both sides, because I've been in that same situation."

Petty and Hackenberg both have better arms than Geno.

That aside, it's really puzzling to see these calls to put Geno it. Dee Milliner and Jace Amaro both produced similarly to what Geno did and no one was even mildly upset when they were outright cut. It's like a cult. 

[JohnnyLV]

2 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said:

Petty and Hackenberg both have better arms than Geno.

That aside, it's really puzzling to see these calls to put Geno it. Dee Milliner and Jace Amaro both produced similarly to what Geno did and no one was even mildly upset when they were outright cut. It's like a cult. 

It's FAR more bewildering that people are making excuses and still supporting Fitz

[JohnnyLV]

2 hours ago, SAR I said:

Under normal circumstances I'd wholeheartedly agree, I'm always on the side of the next young buck worth a look, but the last thing we need is a guy taking first-team snaps from Bryce Petty.  No knock on Geno, but his contract is done in 4 months and we need to validate Petty before the draft, can't hit April with Fitz gone, Geno gone, Petty an unknown, and the 15th pick, would set us back yet another year.

SAR I

The moment Fitz was signed we were set back a year.

[Jet Nut]

6 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said:

Petty and Hackenberg both have better arms than Geno.

That aside, it's really puzzling to see these calls to put Geno it. Dee Milliner and Jace Amaro both produced similarly to what Geno did and no one was even mildly upset when they were outright cut. It's like a cult. 

The key to the puzzle is Fitz isn't good and came up short, shltting the bed with the season on the line. 

 

[joewilly12]

58 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said:

Petty and Hackenberg both have better arms than Geno.

That aside, it's really puzzling to see these calls to put Geno it. Dee Milliner and Jace Amaro both produced similarly to what Geno did and no one was even mildly upset when they were outright cut. It's like a cult. 

Geno went 8-8 with the worst HC in the NFL worst OC and worst WR corps the Patriots dress 1 QB a rookie why arent the Jets cutting Geno if he's as bad as you say he is the cult is the Fitzpatrick supporters who just dont  get it he sucks has his entire career. 

[Villain The Foe]

3 hours ago, Saul Goodman said:

Petty and Hackenberg both have better arms than Geno.

That aside, it's really puzzling to see these calls to put Geno it. Dee Milliner and Jace Amaro both produced similarly to what Geno did and no one was even mildly upset when they were outright cut. It's like a cult. 

The cult reference is based in sensationalism. Kinda like not liking something but instead of presenting a clear and thought out reason for your position, you instead choose the avenue of ridicule in order to discredit the topic.

Also, I can only speak for myself and what I've seen, but I haven't seen these puzzling calls to put Geno in. I've seen people request to put Geno, Petty, Hackenberg and even Mike Glennon in via trade (my personal favorite) instead of paying a journeyman 12 million to see the current results. But what I haven't seen are people pounding the table for Geno Smith. You probably got that from the other sensationalist remarks such as "those Geno fans". Tactics like that are used to drive in the masses for popularity points, but proves absolutely nothing nor does it even deal with what was actually said. It just muddies the waters which is really the purpose.

What I've seen that's actually puzzling is the level of emotions Geno seemingly has control over from humans who've in one way or another been emotionally drained or damaged by this man's very existence, to the point that grown men talk about another grown man's private pics 4 YEARS AGO sent to a female that wasn't their wife. Either that or they're insecure? I don't know, but THAT sh*t is puzzling. Who even does that, really?

I've never seen Jace or Dee produce anything similar to Geno since I never seen them throw a football. 

State your position, the sensationalist ridicule is weak...still. 

 

[SAR I]

15 hours ago, Villain The Foe said:

This is where the two of us differ. What do you mean by "under normal circumstances"? It's not a personal thing. You find the right QB, no matter who it is. The Jets messed up by resigning Ryan Fitzpatrick. Sure, business wise it was correct to do (which I will explain). It's the job of the GM to put together a team that the Coach can win games with. However, if Geno is not in the plans then you release him. 

I understand what you're saying with his contract being over in 4 months, but if he's no use to the team then why keep 4 QB's on the team? This is why I dont ascribe to the notion that Geno is irrelevant to the Jets future, even on his last year. The purpose is to find your quarterback, not overlook them.

Im not saying that Geno's the answer, or Petty/Hackenberg, im saying that fans (us) tend to be influenced by our emotions of a guy we like/dislike. This is a business. You know why Geno wasnt cut? Because Petty and Hackenberg werent ready to play that spot. You know why Fitz was signed? Because Macc couldnt get a team to get him out of dealing with Fitz contract demands. No other team would touch Fitz. However, not resigning Fitz while still available after 5 months and running the risk of losing games wouldnt be received the same as signing Fitz and running the risk of losing games. If Fitz would have signed with another team during FA then Macc would have been in the clear because Macc KNEW what Fitz was. This is why Fitz was on the market for 5 months, because the league also knew what Fitz was. Fans have quickly forgotten that. If we had a poor season the first thing that would be said is "If we had Fitz we would have won". Sure, there's no guarantee to that, but this is the way it would have looked, especially if we would have just left him in free agency. However, as we can see, we signed Fitz and its indeed not a guarantee. Macc tried to get away from Fitz contract demands but no other team would touch him and Macc had no choice but to sign him given last years over achievement. That was the business aspect of this situation.

The reason why this GM didnt go all "balls out" and just stuck with Geno/Petty  is because Petty wasnt ready and Geno wasnt a guy that Macc brought in. However, Macc understands that Geno is still a talent, no matter the personal opinion of him. That circumstance is as normal as any other around the league. You cut loose what you dont need and keep the rest. 

Think about it. We cut Dee Milliner then put him on IR only to cut him again. He wasnt disliked AND we have problems in our secondary...yet Macc still found a reason to cut him. Why is he not finding a similar reason to cut Geno? That scenario right there should tell you that our assumptions based on our feelings on Geno dont affect Macc the same way. 

What I mean by "under normal circumstances" is that once I decide that the quarterback I'm seeing isn't good I always and immediately cut-and-run to the next man up, the young QB we have on the roster.  Pennington after Testeverde got bad.  Clemens after Pennington got bad.  That sort of thing.

But in this circumstance I've seen enough of Geno and so the idea is to wait until Petty is ready and that's the guy we give the reins to, let's see what he's got.

Basically, I'm subscribing to the Skip Over Geno approach.  He's on the roster for emergencies and stepping away from Fitzpatrick would mean the season is over, no more need for an emergency quarterback, its more important that we validate Petty.

SAR I

[Rangers9]

If Fitz is terrible on Sunday a very good chance he'll be benched for Geno and then some of you guys will get your wish. And then what's your excuse if Geno plays poorly. I know, I know he didn't get the reps in practice, etc. Actually he got more first team reps than Fitz did most of the summer and thru OTAs because Fitz hadn't signed. So he should be ready to play. I know for some of you it has to be perfect conditions and even then you could find an excuse. 

[Augustiniak]

3 minutes ago, SAR I said:

What I mean by "under normal circumstances" is that once I decide that the quarterback I'm seeing isn't good I always and immediately cut-and-run to the next man up, the young QB we have on the roster.  Pennington after Testeverde got bad.  Clemens after Pennington got bad.  That sort of thing.

But in this circumstance I've seen enough of Geno and so the idea is to wait until Petty is ready and that's the guy we give the reins to, let's see what he's got.

Basically, I'm subscribing to the Skip Over Geno approach.  He's on the roster for emergencies and stepping away from Fitzpatrick would mean the season is over, no more need for an emergency quarterback, its more important that we validate Petty.

SAR I

the big picture is, odds are the jets do not make the playoffs this year, fitz is gone and geno is gone.  next year's team is really when we see the rebuild, we see not only a new qb(s) but new leaders in the lockerroom.  with fitz gone, you will have either petty or hack throwing downfield more, which hopefully begins to deemphasize marshall and decker and opens it up for robbie anderson, peake and perhaps even devin smith and ASJ.  so the entire offensive dynamic is set to change next season - and maybe this year by the end.  

[BigRy56]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2666621-geno-smith-is-ready-if-fitz-falters-im-way-too-talented-to-be-a-backup#

This is why the Jets and Jet fans 'hate' him. Shut up dude!

All talk no action. Stop telling us how good you are and show us. The sky is the limit?? Come on my man. Don't cry about not being the starter, go out and earn it. Or at the very least, just sit quiet in the wings and be ready when it's your time. No social media posts, no telling us how talented you are. 

Geno is like Rex without the initial success.

[JetBlue]

On 9/26/2016 at 5:08 PM, JetBlue said:

Fitz also looked like warmed over doodoo in the preseason but since he was "ordained" as the starter the previous December by Bowles, that was excusable.   Geno works his ass off all off season for another shot and just like that the "conquering hero" is the starter. Hard to get pumped up after that..  Bottom line they just need to cut the guy and be done with it. 

opps

[JetBlue]

49 minutes ago, Rangers9 said:

If Fitz is terrible on Sunday a very good chance he'll be benched for Geno and then some of you guys will get your wish. And then what's your excuse if Geno plays poorly. I know, I know he didn't get the reps in practice, etc. Actually he got more first team reps than Fitz did most of the summer and thru OTAs because Fitz hadn't signed. So he should be ready to play. I know for some of you it has to be perfect conditions and even then you could find an excuse. 

So before he even plays we have focus on him playing poorly.  Hey supposed he plays decently; not great, not horrible but decent.  Then what?  I mean can the ******* guy actually play a game with THIS team before we talk about excuses and what not?   Bottom line?  He can't possibly do worse than the conquering hero did last week, and he is a 12 YEAR VETERAN. 

[CrazyCarl40]

37 minutes ago, BigRy56 said:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2666621-geno-smith-is-ready-if-fitz-falters-im-way-too-talented-to-be-a-backup#

This is why the Jets and Jet fans 'hate' him. Shut up dude!

All talk no action. Stop telling us how good you are and show us. The sky is the limit?? Come on my man. Don't cry about not being the starter, go out and earn it. Or at the very least, just sit quiet in the wings and be ready when it's your time. No social media posts, no telling us how talented you are. 

Geno is like Rex without the initial success.

Good lord what a delusional human he is.

[SAR I]

33 minutes ago, BigRy56 said:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2666621-geno-smith-is-ready-if-fitz-falters-im-way-too-talented-to-be-a-backup#

This is why the Jets and Jet fans 'hate' him. Shut up dude!

All talk no action. Stop telling us how good you are and show us. The sky is the limit?? Come on my man. Don't cry about not being the starter, go out and earn it. Or at the very least, just sit quiet in the wings and be ready when it's your time. No social media posts, no telling us how talented you are. 

Geno is like Rex without the initial success.

And what Myhero's forget to remember in the "Geno was the starter until the sucker punch" mythology is that Geno Smith was NOT the starter, Chan Gailey himself made the Fitz trade happen, preferring to start his new job with a guy he was comfortable with rather than getting stuck with the incumbant who was the NFL's worst quarterback and a 4-12 failure to prove it.

If anything It was an open camp competition that was already tilting in Fitzpatrick's favor, Geno was loudly boooed off the field at the diehard fan Green & White Scrimmage just two days before the infamous blow to the jaw.  His coaches didn't want him, the fans didn't want him, it's really not hard to see why the fractured jaw was just a convenience and that Geno Smith was going to ride the pine either way, healthy or hurt.

SAR I

 

[JetBlue]

On 9/26/2016 at 5:08 PM, JetBlue said:

Fitz also looked like warmed over doodoo in the preseason but since he was "ordained" as the starter the previous December by Bowles, that was excusable.   Geno works his ass off all off season for another shot and just like that the "conquering hero" is the starter. Hard to get pumped up after that..  Bottom line they just need to cut the guy and be done with it. 

double post. bump

[Rangers9]

11 minutes ago, JetBlue said:

So before he even plays we have focus on him playing poorly.  Hey supposed he plays decently; not great, not horrible but decent.  Then what?  I mean can the ******* guy actually play a game with THIS team before we talk about excuses and what not?   Bottom line?  He can't possibly do worse than the conquering hero did last week, and he is a 12 YEAR VETERAN. 

If he plays and plays well it's a win win.I'm not assuming he's going to suck. But I anticipate the excuses that will be given by his fans if he plays poorly. I mean first let's see how Fitz does on Sunday. I assume you hope he plays well and we win. And you're not rooting for him to do poorly. 

[JetBlue]

On 9/26/2016 at 5:08 PM, JetBlue said: