PCP63 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I know I'm in the VAST minority, but I think we should go for it. Is he 100% NFL ready? As one of his ardent supporters who thought he was the most NFL-ready, I will say that no, he's not. A lot of people say that you don't want to throw him into the fire, because it'll ruin him. With that being said, wouldn't him being "ruined" just by a season of poor play mean he wasn't our guy anyways? If he's that mentally weak, we don't want him. If not? Then he'll gain valuable live-game experience as he grows. You're just expediting the discovery process, learning whether he's your guy or not. His decision-making is not the problem. He makes the right reads, the right check downs, the right audibles. He's a smart kid. People say he's too inaccurate. Well, that's what the coaches are for. Remember, this problem wasn't even close to as bad until Penn's coaches made him switch up his footwork. Once the coaches can identify and fix that problem, his accuracy should improve greatly. Just takes rep after rep of practice. But he has the tools. He's big, he's smart, and he has a good arm. Once his footwork issues are handled, he should be quite a QB. We're not making the playoffs this season. No use in starting a QB that will just get us a mid draft pick and no hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCP63 Posted October 12, 2016 Author Share Posted October 12, 2016 I know I'm in the VAST minority, but I think we should go for it. Is he 100% NFL ready? As one of his ardent supporters who thought he was the most NFL-ready, I will say that no, he's not. A lot of people say that you don't want to throw him into the fire, because it'll ruin him. With that being said, wouldn't him being "ruined" just by a season of poor play mean he wasn't our guy anyways? If he's that mentally weak, we don't want him. If not? Then he'll gain valuable live-game experience as he grows. You're just expediting the discovery process, learning whether he's your guy or not. His decision-making is not the problem. He makes the right reads, the right check downs, the right audibles. He's a smart kid. People say he's too inaccurate. Well, that's what the coaches are for. Remember, this problem wasn't even close to as bad until Penn's coaches made him switch up his footwork. Once the coaches can identify and fix that problem, his accuracy should improve greatly. Just takes rep after rep of practice. But he has the tools. He's big, he's smart, and he has a good arm. Once his footwork issues are handled, he should be quite a QB. We're not making the playoffs this season. No use in starting a QB that will just get us a mid draft pick and no hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkajet01 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 What about petty? You have no clue! Hack is bad! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fibonacci Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I for one support this. If team decides to bench Fitzy, it should be Petty or Hack. These are precious reps. No reason to burn them on Geno. Let's give the young kids a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Hack hasn't taken a single snap with the starting offense, but yea, let's toss him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, PCP63 said: I know I'm in the VAST minority At least you're somewhat self-aware. At least there is that. Hack is very clearly not ready. For Top-tier D1 College-level play. He's not remotely ready for the Pro game. Start this thread again...in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Hey has to beat out the 3rd string QB first, lol His issues are accuracy, touch and awareness. He is a sack waiting to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I'd rather go with Geno and Petty before Hackenberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 PCP must be one heck of a drug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCP63 Posted October 12, 2016 Author Share Posted October 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, Fibonacci said: I for one support this. If team decides to bench Fitzy, it should be Petty or Hack. These are precious reps. No reason to burn them on Geno. Let's give the young kids a chance. I like Petty, but I think his ceiling is a lot lower than Hack's. I'm sure Petty could be a fine player, but I honestly believe that, with some work and experience, Hack could eventually be our franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Thread Double-posted, Mods please merge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Absurd notion. Petty is first and it isn't even close enough to warrant a discussion with regards to Hack. An argument could be made for Geno even if one doesn't agree. But Hack? Child please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, PCP63 said: I like Petty, but I think his ceiling is a lot lower than Hack's. I'm sure Petty could be a fine player, but I honestly believe that, with some work and experience, Hack could eventually be our franchise QB. That is not the point. It is a question of readiness. Petty has spent a year in the system and looked good in limited action. Hack was drafted with the notion that 2016 was going to be a red shirt year and to get him up to speed for 2017 and beyond. That is part of the reason they resigned Fitz to act as a bridge (something I was against, as I would have let Geno and Petty compete for the starting job). Hack will not see the field this year unless it is the last few games of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I think the "Aaron Rodgers waited 4 years to start" concept is not going to work. But clearly Petty is at least a back up QB next year, number 2. And Hack should be a 3, not a 2, and maybe even a 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, RoadFan said: Absurd notion. Petty is first and it isn't even close enough to warrant a discussion with regards to Hack. An argument could be made for Geno even if one doesn't agree. But Hack? Child please... This 100% Folks need to think on this... Hack wasn't even good enough to get into preseason games and garner reps in practice. Now he is supposed to magically come in after getting third team reps and do what precisely? Come on.... The guy needs at least one off season of getting more reps and being a little more accurate. IMO......No HC in the NFL would start Hack in this circumstance... NONE!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCP63 Posted October 12, 2016 Author Share Posted October 12, 2016 16 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: This 100% Folks need to think on this... Hack wasn't even good enough to get into preseason games and garner reps in practice. Now he is supposed to magically come in after getting third team reps and do what precisely? Come on.... The guy needs at least one off season of getting more reps and being a little more accurate. IMO......No HC in the NFL would start Hack in this circumstance... NONE!! We saw very little of him. He had one bad half. Before that, he actually played pretty well. The coaches not giving him PT indicates nothing, especially when it comes to coaches of the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCP63 Posted October 12, 2016 Author Share Posted October 12, 2016 Now, I'd LIKE to start Hack, but really wouldn't be upset if we started Petty. However, I want Hack to start 2017, unless Petty does some real damage. But Geno and Fitz are not the answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I'm good with starting any other qb for as long as Fitz is off the the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Far and away our best shot at the #1 overall pick. Count me in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jett Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I'd rather have Betty white be our starting quarterback than hack of sh*t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I wasn't totally opposed to going to Hack if Fitz struggled after he was picked. After seeing him in person in the PS against the Eagles, I have no desire to get him on the field at all this year. He legitimately looked like a below-average HS QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 52 minutes ago, varjet said: I think the "Aaron Rodgers waited 4 years to start" concept is not going to work. But clearly Petty is at least a back up QB next year, number 2. And Hack should be a 3, not a 2, and maybe even a 2. I'm glad I don't have to interview now for a job I want 2 years from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Its Petty next up, the question is how soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Starting Hack would guarantee us picking top 3, so I agree with the thread and it's premise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfan4life_1 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Fibonacci said: I for one support this. If team decides to bench Fitzy, it should be Petty or Hack. These are precious reps. No reason to burn them on Geno. Let's give the young kids a chance. Excellent point, why spend high draft picks on QB's and not play them. It is time, the time has come, time is of the essence please start the kids now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 1 hour ago, August said: I'd rather go with Geno and Petty before Hackenberg I would go as far as to say i would rather see forte as our starting QB this season than hack atleast he can run the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I agree start Hack so we won;t feel bad cutting him next year after we use a high pick on a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 We all want to see the kid play but Mac and Bowles aren't like Rex/izdik/fat man. They aren't going to rush and throw these kids to the wolves like they did with Sanchez/geno. Despite what the fans vote on, they have made it clear it's going to be geno up next if fitz doesn't get it together.. but next yr will be interesting, will geno and fitz long gone.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 1 hour ago, varjet said: I think the "Aaron Rodgers waited 4 years to start" concept is not going to work. But clearly Petty is at least a back up QB next year, number 2. And Hack should be a 3, not a 2, and maybe even a 2. Rogers waited 4 years to start because the Packers already had a hall of fame QB. Same reason the pats will be head patted for not rushing Grapollo. Aaron rogers was a pretty unique situation and imo should not be used as some great model to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 1 minute ago, Jetsplayer21 said: We all want to see the kid play but Mac and Bowles aren't like Rex/izdik/fat man. They aren't going to rush and throw these kids to the wolves like they did with Sanchez/geno. Despite what the fans vote on, they have made it clear it's going to be geno up next if fitz doesn't get it together.. but next yr will be interesting, will geno and fitz long gone.. And the jets having not even a foggy clue whether petty or hack can play, yeah sounds about right for the way the jets handle QBs' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Yes lets throw the kid in there and totally destroy his confidence. This isn't penn state, its the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Straw Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 5 minutes ago, JETSfan4life_1 said: Excellent point, why spend high draft picks on QB's and not play them. It is time, the time has come, time is of the essence please start the kids now. Anytime someone asks a Jets official if Bryce Petty can play, everyone in the organization acts as if you just asked if a puppy could pilot a spaceship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: And the jets having not even a foggy clue whether petty or hack can play, yeah sounds about right for the way the jets handle QBs' I won't disagree with that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Straw Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 1 minute ago, kevinc855 said: Yes lets throw the kid in there and totally destroy his confidence. This isn't penn state, its the NFL This time last year, Carson Wentz was throwing passes against Weber freaking State, so that's not a valid reason as to why Hackenberg shouldn't play. Him sucking right now is a valid reason, but where he went to college isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I remember eating mushrooms and thinking Brooks Bollinger was the future so I sympathize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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