T0mShane Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 The NFL is viciously roasting the Jets, who have "no plan." The Jets are the laughingstock of the NFL, and they have not even lost a game yet in 2017. People around the league from coaches to front-office executives to player agents are cackling about the state of the Jets franchise and the team’s latest moves — releasing veteran linebacker David Harris and planning to dump wide receiver Eric Decker through either a trade or his release. In several conversations over the past two days, NFL people have wondered whether the Jets actually have a plan, how much dysfunction there is inside the organization and why they waited until June to dump one of their most respected players. All of it reflects poorly on owner Woody Johnson and general manager Mike Maccagnan, the architects behind this complete roster teardown (let’s not call it a rebuild until we actually see evidence of building). Coach Todd Bowles is a sympathetic figure around the league, viewed as someone who will ultimately pay the price for a 2017 season that looks like it will be filled with failure. “They have the worst roster in the league and it’s not close,” one executive said. A roster that looked bad got even worse Tuesday. Harris was the heart and soul of the Jets’ defense, a player twice voted as the most inspirational player on the team and once as team MVP, in 2010. Decker impressed teammates with how he looked this spring after shoulder and hip surgeries and was clearly the best receiver the team had. Nick Mangold, Brett Favre and Alan Faneca in 2008Anthony J. Causi Clearly, Johnson wanted to save some money by getting rid of Harris and his $6.5 million, a shortsighted, ill-conceived decision. Harris was a respected voice in the locker room and one who could help shape second-year linebacker Darron Lee, who got himself into trouble over the weekend. Years ago, the Jets brought in guard Alan Faneca, whose greatest contribution to the Jets might have been teaching young players Nick Mangold and D’Brickashaw Ferguson how to be pros. Harris could have done the same for Lee. The Jets are going with a youth movement, but teams still need a few veterans to point the way. Harris and Decker could have been those guides. You don’t think Decker could have helped along young receivers Robby Anderson, ArDarius Stewart, Chad Hansen and Charone Peake? Many people around the league are scratching their heads at the timing of these decisions, particularly Harris. Why would a team treat a player who spent 10 years representing the organization well and doing the right things like this? The time to make a request for a salary cut or to release him was in February or March, not after the eighth OTA. “It’s like they have no plan,” one agent said. The time to rebuild was in Year 1 of the Maccagnan/Bowles regime in 2015. Instead, they went on a spending spree to be competitive, and now they are left in this strange no-man’s land, where Bowles and Maccagnan have been here for 29 months already with little to show for it. It feels like the last two years were wasted. That leads to questions about who can survive this season. The consensus seems to be Maccagnan is probably safe unless the team goes 1-15 or 0-16 and Johnson succumbs to public pressure. Bowles is viewed as a goner by nearly everyone. His contract expires after the 2018 season, and NFL coaches do not usually go into a season as a lame duck, meaning Johnson either has to fire or extend Bowles after this season. How can he extend a coach if they go 3-13 or 4-12 and have missed the playoffs for three straight seasons? On Tuesday, Bowles showed the first signs of frustration with the direction the team is going. The Harris cut clearly hit him hard. The microscope will be on his relationship with Maccagnan this season as the two appear to be operating off of different game plans. The Jets are viewed as team that is years away from contending again, with all the pressure falling on Maccagnan and his scouting chops. There are questions about those after two drafts that have produced Leonard Williams and a whole bunch of question marks. On Tuesday night, when Maccagnan met with reporters, he looked as somber as he ever has publicly since taking over as GM in 2015. Smiles and laughter are hard to come by around the Jets’ offices these days. It’s hard to laugh when you’re the NFL’s punch line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 new flash.... media is jumping on the jets and are laughing at them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 So you're saying there's a chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Gotta love beats writers taking quotes from other journalist and creating entires speculative articles from them. Aren't these quotes from Daniel jeramiah? And news flash, the Jets have been a laughing stock around the NFL for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 The time to rebuild was in Year 1 of the Maccagnan/Bowles regime in 2015. Instead, they went on a spending spree to be competitive, and now they are left in this strange no-man’s land, where Bowles and Maccagnan have been here for 29 months already with little to show for it. It feels like the last two years were wasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 How the **** did this team just draft two safeties? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 8, 2017 Author Share Posted June 8, 2017 The real story here is that Bowles' support system around the league is closing ranks around him--possibly at his request--and it's about to get dirty in Florham. The good news is that stories like this will guarantee Bowles' exit at the end of the season. The bad news is that no coach with options will ever work for Woody Johnson again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Just now, Matt39 said: How the **** did this team just draft two safeties? Putting a Rolls Royce hood emblem on a '72 Dodge Dart, but twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsamuel84 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, Bugg said: The time to rebuild was in Year 1 of the Maccagnan/Bowles regime in 2015. Instead, they went on a spending spree to be competitive, and now they are left in this strange no-man’s land, where Bowles and Maccagnan have been here for 29 months already with little to show for it. It feels like the last two years were wasted. So true, but trying to give Bowles and Macc the benefit of the doubt, the 2015 spending spree probably was what got Macc the job. He promised Woody and competitive team in 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Who cares we are going to suck at the right time finally. Fuk the media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 8, 2017 Author Share Posted June 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, Matt39 said: How the **** did this team just draft two safeties? When backed into a corner, they went with what they know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 7 minutes ago, Matt39 said: How the **** did this team just draft two safeties? All part of the plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Maybe I'm finally losing my optimism/becoming jaded...but...good. This is the year to suck. I hope we suck. I hope we suck BAD. I could live with being the 2nd team to go 0-16 if it means everything gets blown up and we draft a real franchise QB. If Mac AND Bowles go at the end? Fine. If this is a legit tank job by Mac and Bowles ultimately is the scapegoat? Don't care. A QB is worth it. Hire a new coach and move on with your lives. At the end of the day, if either one of those scenarios plays out, there will be plenty of good candidates who want to come here because they get to work with a top talent QB. I honestly don't care anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: When backed into a corner, they went with what they know. Hope to god that there's a legit candidate that would want to pair himself with Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Costello is wrong. This is one of the few times Woody has actually had a plan. Tank in a year where there's a QB-heavy top 5 in the draft. You gotta tear it all down before you can rebuild. It's the right timing for this. Look, the media needs stuff to write to collect a paycheck. This is the narrative they've chosen. It doesn't make it right. If the Jets had made a splash in free agency in an attempt to be relevant in a division with Brady in it, THAT would've been the laughingstock move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 10 minutes ago, T0mShane said: The real story here is that Bowles' support system around the league is closing ranks around him--possibly at his request--and it's about to get dirty in Florham. The good news is that stories like this will guarantee Bowles' exit at the end of the season. The bad news is that no coach with options will ever work for Woody Johnson again. Even if they manage to suck enough for Darnold, comes a point Johnson has to step back and let either McCagnan or some other football heavy run the show.He's owned the team for almost 2 decades and has painted himself into the corner of looking like he has no idea what he is doing; because he doesn't. He goes from one bad idea to the next. And worse that competent football people want nothing to do with this franchise under his ownership. If he is not going to step back and instead keeps running from one bad idea to the next things will never get better, great QB or not. Look at Oakland; at some point Mark Davis realized his meddling like his dad was making a mess. And what ever else you can say about Davis he has been around football his whole life. And this is where it always goes bad with Johnson; he has no great business career, he's a rich spoiled brat who has no real expertise in anything. Which leads me to think sadly he will keep stepping on his private parts and making a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Can we at least get to training camp before declaring this to be the worst NFL roster of the last 50 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 8 minutes ago, peekskill68 said: Can we at least get to training camp before declaring this to be the worst NFL roster of the last 50 years? no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 8, 2017 Author Share Posted June 8, 2017 12 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Hope to god that there's a legit candidate that would want to pair himself with Darnold. 12 minutes ago, Bugg said: Even if they manage to suck enough for Darnold, comes a point Johnson has to step back and let either McCagnan or some other football heavy run the show.He's owned the team for almost 2 decades and has painted himself into the corner of looking like he has no idea what he is doing; because he doesn't. He goes from one bad idea to the next. And worse that competent football people want nothing to do with this franchise under his ownership. If he is not going to step back and instead keeps running from one bad idea to the next things will never get better, great QB or not. Look at Oakland; at some point Mark Davis realized his meddling like his dad was making a mess. And what ever else you can say about Davis he has been around football his whole life. And this is where it always goes bad with Johnson; he has no great business career, he's a rich spoiled brat who has no real expertise in anything. Which leads me to think sadly he will keep stepping on his private parts and making a mess. Think John Fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 seriously we have all wanted this team to be built the right way for years and here is our chance. lets hope we got the right people doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 So pumped for Maccagnan to hire his own coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 12 minutes ago, dbatesman said: So pumped for Maccagnan to hire his own coach. What once was old Idzik again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony MaC Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 40 minutes ago, Matt39 said: How the **** did this team just draft two safeties? BPA- made all the better because they filled a need... not that this was hard, we got a lot of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 43 minutes ago, Bugg said: The time to rebuild was in Year 1 of the Maccagnan/Bowles regime in 2015. Instead, they went on a spending spree to be competitive, and now they are left in this strange no-man’s land, where Bowles and Maccagnan have been here for 29 months already with little to show for it. It feels like the last two years were wasted. It's been this way for 45 years ... we have fans , many fans, who have become happy with 9 and 7 and think 10 and 6 is super bowl bound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 21 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Think John Fox. Really???? Decent football guy but what makes you think he can run the Jets? How's he done in Chicago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Just now, southparkcpa said: Really???? Decent football guy but what makes you think he can run the Jets? How's he done in Chicago? He was pretty darn good in Charlotte, better than anyone we have had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 8, 2017 Author Share Posted June 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, southparkcpa said: Really???? Decent football guy but what makes you think he can run the Jets? How's he done in Chicago? Because Fox won't have options elsewhere and Woody Johnson will recognize the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfine Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 When the Jets sign a bunch of free agents: Its "desperation" Jets get rid aging veterans to rebuild: They have "no plan" I wish my job was as easy as these sports writers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfine Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Being a sports writer nowadays is no more then being a weather man. Throw sh*t against the wall. Rile up a few people in the process and see if it sticks. Nobody really respects the media anymore. I'll wait until actual football is played. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Matt39 said: How the **** did this team just draft two safeties? Safely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: The real story here is that Bowles' support system around the league is closing ranks around him--possibly at his request--and it's about to get dirty in Florham. The good news is that stories like this will guarantee Bowles' exit at the end of the season. The bad news is that no coach with options will ever work for Woody Johnson again. 1. Draft Sam Darnold 2. Surrender complete control 3.Over pay like a mofo 4. Stop drafting fucking safeties! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 I feel like celebrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 These cocksuckers are going to make me actually root for wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Life Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 We picked a great year to suck. 80M in cap space next year , the #1 pick and a new GM/HC. Can't wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Nobody will be laughing in 3 years if the Jets "tank" and land a franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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