prime21 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2018/insider/story/_/id/22665585/nfl-mock-draft-2018-30-todd-mcshay-first-round-pick-rankings-draft-order-predictions For those who don't have an insider subscription, here is McShay's Mock 3.0 With the Senior Bowl and NFL combine in the rearview mirror, we've been able to review more tape, we have official measurements on all legitimate draft prospects and we have test results (40s, jumps, shuttles, etc.) on 200-plus prospects. With free agency looming in a week, several of these projections probably will change as a team's needs are altered. Character concerns and medical results are major factors in the process, as well. But Mock 3.0 is due, so here we go. Note: All underclassmen are noted with an asterisk. 1. Cleveland Browns Sam Darnold, QB, USC* I've had Darnold here in the previous two mocks as well. After the combine this past week, it's sounding as if this pick could come down to him or Saquon Barkley. Darnold is the best QB in this class, in my opinion. However, I could also see Josh Allen as the choice here, since he has more experience in the cold, the big arm and the hand size (10⅛ inches) to diminish fumbling concerns in bad AFC North weather. If Cleveland addresses its quarterback situation in free agency (AJ McCarron?), then I think Barkley is the pick here. 2. New York Giants Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State* The Giants could go a lot of different directions here. If they are really looking to win now with Eli Manning at QB, then they should take the best player in the draft, Barkley. Give Manning a running game and a little more pass protection (via free agency or later in the draft) and Giants fans would argue they are a playoff team. Bradley Chubb and Quenton Nelson are in play here as well. And New York could also get a sweet offer to move back for a team looking to jump up and take a QB. 3. Indianapolis Colts Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State Like the Giants, the big question will be if Indianapolis gets a worthwhile offer to move down for a QB-needy team. If that call doesn't come, then I believe this pick comes down to Chubb or Nelson. With so many holes on this team, including edge rusher, Chubb makes the most sense. He played his way into a top-10 pick this season at NC State and solidified it with a strong combine workout. A high-motor guy, he has good talent and is a very complete player. A plug-and-play starter. 4. Cleveland Browns (from Houston Texans) Minkah Fitzpatrick, S, Alabama* There are teams that could be looking to move up to this pick to get ahead of Denver and the New York Jets (Miami, Arizona, Buffalo to name a few), so the Browns could cash in with the QB they want and now get additional picks to move down. Since we can't project trades, Cleveland goes with a difference-maker on defense in Fitzpatrick (Tremaine Edmunds would be another possibility). With needs at CB, WR, DE and offensive line (among others), this pick is also dependent on where Cleveland spends to upgrade in free agency. 5. Denver Broncos Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame* I keep hearing that the Broncos are looking to upgrade the QB position in free agency, but the name I keep hearing isn't Kirk Cousins -- it's Case Keenum. If Denver gets either guy, it needs significant help on the O-line, even after drafting offensive tackle Garett Bolles in the first round last year. Nelson had a terrific combine and is a plug-and-play high-level starter. He's a guard, not a tackle, but he's also currently my second-ranked prospect in this class. If Denver doesn't address QB in free agency, Allen is the likely pick here. 6. New York Jets Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming* The Jets are another team in the Cousins sweepstakes, but assuming they miss out they'd be thrilled if Allen (or Baker Mayfield) was available here. Allen has the best arm talent in the draft and can make any throw. The concern over his 56.3 percent completion last season at Wyoming is probably overblown, but there are some accuracy issues with multidimensional throws. He's more of a project than some other QBs in this class, but he definitely has the highest ceiling. 7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Derwin James, S, Florida State* The Bucs were dead last in the NFL with 17 sacks last season, so they need an edge rusher badly. But the defensive end class this year lacks elite talent at the top, and this is a reach for someone like Marcus Davenport. Instead, Tampa Bay should take the best player available -- which is James. James is a versatile playmaker on the back end, and also a terrific athlete. His outstanding workout in Indy (40-inch vertical jump, 11-foot broad jump, 4.47 40-yard dash) wasn't surprising. 8. Chicago Bears Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State* Calvin Ridley is still my top-ranked WR, but he had a mixed combine workout. The Bears do need playmakers on the outside for second-year QB Mitchell Trubisky, but right now, there are simply too many higher-graded players on the board. Even if Chicago keeps Kyle Fuller (it placed the transition tag on him), the Bears need a lockdown CB. Ward is that guy, and his blazing 4.32 40 cemented his spot as the No. 1 CB in this draft. 9. San Francisco 49ers Tremaine Edmunds, DE/OLB, Virginia Tech* The 49ers need another cornerback, but in this scenario Ward is gone at No. 8. The 49ers have invested heavily on the defensive line high in previous drafts, but I think they look to the second level of the defense here. And Edmunds is a gift at No. 9. At 6-foot-4, 254 pounds, he has elite speed (4.47 40) and athleticism -- and he's only 19. Edmunds has the ability to play off the ball on first and second downs and rush the QB on obvious passing downs. 10. Oakland Raiders Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia* Oakland has needs all over on defense (CB, LB, edge rusher) and not enough available cap room to make huge upgrades in free agency. Smith would be a good building block for the Raiders' defense, as a rangy weakside linebacker with fast eyes and terrific closing speed. He's also a great leader and possesses tremendous football character. 11. Miami Dolphins Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma Smith could also be a great pick for Miami, but if he's off the board and Mayfield and Josh Rosen are both on the board, I think Miami takes a QB here. Ryan Tannehill is good enough to win when healthy, but his availability has been a problem in recent seasons. Adam Gase would be a good offensive mind to help utilize Mayfield's strengths. 12. Cincinnati Bengals Vita Vea, DT, Washington* Cincinnati had a disappointing 7-9 season, and the offensive line's poor play and inability to run the ball were big reasons why. With the 12th pick, there isn't an offensive tackle in this class worthy of selection here. The Bengals need difference-makers along the defensive front seven, and Vea fits the bill. He didn't get a chance to fully show off his athleticism at the combine after an injury, but he's extremely agile for a 6-foot-4, 347-pound player. He's a load to move in the run game and disruptive as a power rusher. This would be back-to-back years of using first-round picks on Washington players for the Bengals (WR John Ross, 2017). 13. Washington Redskins Mike Hughes, CB, Central Florida* Quarterback is no longer a pressing need for Washington after trading for Alex Smith and letting Cousins walk. Now, Washington needs to surround Smith with playmakers and tighten up its defense. Hughes is a talented cover corner who also supports the run. A playmaker when the ball is in the air, he's also a dynamic return specialist. 14. Green Bay Packers Marcus Davenport, DE, UTSA Davenport built on a good Senior Bowl week with an impressive showing at the combine. A 4.58-second 40 at 6-foot-5&frac68;, 264 pounds is a ridiculous time, and he showed off his athleticism in other drills. He's still a work in progress, but he's already a long, powerful pass-rusher. Green Bay needs more talent on defense, and Davenport certainly checks that box. Even if the Packers sign Muhammad Wilkerson in free agency, Davenport could be the pick. 15. Arizona Cardinals Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA* Arizona is tough to predict right now, because of what the Cardinals might do in free agency. If they sign a QB like Keenum, Teddy Bridgewater or another veteran, the Cardinals could go in another direction. If they don't address the position in free agency, I'm assuming they will trade up for a QB. They would love to get Allen or Darnold, but can they move up that far? If not, I think they try to move up 5-8 spots for Rosen or Mayfield. We can't project trades, so in this scenario they grab Rosen at No. 15. 16. Baltimore Ravens Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama The Ravens are in desperate need of offensive playmakers, and they'd be thrilled if Ridley were available here. His poor jumps (worst broad jump, second-worst vertical jump among WRs) at the combine are a bit concerning, but he's still the clear top wideout in this class. He runs terrific routes and creates well after the catch. 17. Los Angeles Chargers Rashaan Evans, LB, Alabama Los Angeles' defense is strong but needs an upgrade at linebacker, and Evans is a thumper in the run game. He plays with tremendous effort and has sneaky pass-rush ability as well. 18. Seattle Seahawks Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa* The Seahawks are seemingly always in need of offensive line help, so Connor Williams could be a name in play here. But Jackson is a long corner (6-0, 196) who fits the Seattle prototype, and he's a big-time ballhawk (led the nation with eight interceptions last season). With Richard Sherman's future up in the air, Jackson's potential is too good to pass on. 19. Dallas Cowboys Da'Ron Payne, DT, Alabama* Payne's sack total is underwhelming (three total in college), but just turn on the tape. He's a highly disruptive player in the middle and would help Dallas' effort to upgrade the Cowboys' pass rush (38 sacks last year was a big improvement). Payne would be a good fit as a three-technique in Rod Marinelli's system, and would pair well with DeMarcus Lawrence (franchise tagged). With Jason Wittenturning 36 this offseason, TE Dallas Goedert is another good option. 20. Detroit Lions Connor Williams, OT/G, Texas* Even with Ezekiel Ansah tagged, Detroit could use help at defensive end, but there isn't the value here. Instead, the Lions should turn their attention to keep Matthew Stafford upright. Williams is an athletic pass-protector and played left tackle in college. With shorter arms (33 inches), he might be a better fit inside at guard in the pros. Williams missed nearly all of this past season at Texas because of a knee injury, so how his medicals check out will be vital to his stock. 21. Buffalo Bills Taven Bryan, DT, Florida* The big question for the Bills is: What's the plan at QB? Will Buffalo package these two picks to go up to get a QB? Will the Bills sign one in free agency? Since we can't project trades, I'll go defense here. Buffalo needs help along the defensive line after trading DT Marcell Dareus last season, and Bryan would be a good fit. Bryan is an explosive three-technique whose best football is still ahead of him. His workout confirmed what I saw on tape. 22. Buffalo Bills (from Kansas City Chiefs) Jaire Alexander, CB, Louisville* This could be one spot for Lamar Jackson. Otherwise, I think they go defense again. Secondary help is needed outside of Tre'Davious White and the recently signed Vontae Davis. Alexander missed half the season, but he's a big-time cover corner. His combine workout -- highlighted by a 4.38 40 -- turned some heads. 23. Los Angeles Rams Will Hernandez, G, UTEP The Rams had a need at CB, but the pending deal for Marcus Peters takes care of that. There's no edge rusher worthy of this pick, so I'm going with the top-rated offensive lineman on the board. Hernandez is a monster in the run game and gives no ground to bull rushers. He'll help to keep Jared Goff protected and open up running lanes for Todd Gurley II. 24. Carolina Panthers Isaiah Oliver, CB, Colorado* Oliver has size (6-foot), speed (4.50 40) and length (33½-inch arm span). The Panthers would like to get a playmaker for Cam Newton but might be better served addressing the secondary here and getting better value on Day 2 of the draft. 25. Tennessee Titans Dallas Goedert, TE, South Dakota State It isn't a terrific tight end group this year, but Goedert is the best one in this class. He's still a little underrated and didn't get a chance to shine at the Senior Bowl or combine because of injury. His pro day will be important. You don't get too many two-way TEs coming out of college, but Goedert fits the bill. He's got a big frame (6-4, 260) with good speed and can play in-line or detached. 26. Atlanta Falcons Justin Reid, S, Stanford* Guard is a definite need for Atlanta, but a position I believe the Falcons will address in free agency. This might be a bit of a reach, but I really like Reid's tape and he backed it up with a great combine workout (4.40 40 at 6-1, 204, along with 10-foot, 8-inch broad jump and 36.5-inch vertical jump). I think he's worthy of a top-40 selection. 27. New Orleans Saints Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville The Saints could go offensive line with James Daniels or Billy Price, or TE with Goedert if he's available. I'm putting Jackson here because Drew Brees can't play forever, and this would be a terrific sport for him to sit, learn and develop behind a Hall of Fame QB and a terrific offensive mind in Sean Payton. 28. Pittsburgh Steelers Hayden Hurst, TE, South Carolina* Hurst is a big (6-4, 250), athletic target who can contribute immediately. A former pro baseball player, Hurst has good ball skills and can help stretch the seam for Ben Roethlisberger and that potent Pittsburgh offense. He's also a good blocker. 29. Jacksonville Jaguars D.J. Moore, WR, Maryland* Jacksonville has a real possibility of losing Marqise Lee and Allen Robinson in free agency. If that happens, WR is a huge need. Moore's tape is really good when he's targeted, and his combine showing, including a 4.42 40, only helped his cause. A tough WR with good run-after-the-catch skills. 30. Minnesota Vikings Billy Price, C/G, Ohio State One way or another, Minnesota will solve its starting QB situation through free agency. With that in place, there aren't a lot of holes on this roster. Minnesota had great success with 2017 third-round pick Pat Elflein, so they go back to the Buckeyes well here. Price tore his pec at the combine and underwent surgery, but he should be fine for training camp. He's an experienced starter with great character, and could be an immediate upgrade. 31. New England Patriots Lorenzo Carter, OLB, Georgia Offensive tackle is a possibility for New England, but I think guys like Kolton Miller and Geron Christianare a bit of a reach here. Carter is a versatile LB at 6-5, 250 with 34-inch arms -- he can play standing up and even some right defensive end in a 4-3. He plays his tail off on tape, and the Patriots could use his pass-rushing production. He had an outstanding combine with a 4.50 40 and outstanding jumps (10-foot, 10-inch broad, 36-inch vertical). 32. Philadelphia Eagles D.J. Chark, WR, LSU The Super Bowl champions have the luxury of drafting for value, for a roster without many holes. Chark is a raw route-runner but has the tools to develop. His stock is on the rise after a great Senior Bowl week and combine workout, punctuated with a 4.34 40 and 40-inch vertical jump. He could fill Torrey Smith's role as an explosive vertical WR in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 I feel like mock drafts this year are just too all over the place especially before Cousins signs. Mostly every pick is 3 options ending in "this could be a trade". But there will be riots if we pick Allen over Rosen/Mayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGDIRK Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 This year more than ever the mock is so tough to call. Where does Cousins sign? Do Colts trade out of 3rd spot- highly likely.Do Browns trade back a couple of spots from 4? ....I don’t practice Santeria but QBs always end up going higher. ....Also I am not buying Barkley to Gmen for a minute. With a new regime in place they are taking their highest ranked QB on the board. I hope they end up with Allen who busts and we land Rosen or Mayfield at 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, MDL_JET said: I feel like mock drafts this year are just too all over the place especially before Cousins signs. Mostly every pick is 3 options ending in "this could be a trade". But there will be riots if we pick Allen over Rosen/Mayfield. It would be great to have 3 options to choose from if we stay at #6 but the constant comparisons over the next 5 years will be nauseating for Jets fans unless we pick the best of the 3. I almost wish the choicer was made for us and only one QB is available at #6. Of course this is if Cousins is not signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mphtrilogy Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Top 3 picks will be QB, why is this not even a thing? Just Mock a trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, MDL_JET said: I feel like mock drafts this year are just too all over the place especially before Cousins signs. Mostly every pick is 3 options ending in "this could be a trade". But there will be riots if we pick Allen over Rosen/Mayfield. This year is especially difficult to predict with cousins situation and all the QBs that could go in top 4 or fall like they do in this mock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 minute ago, mphtrilogy said: Top 3 picks will be QB, why is this not even a thing? Just Mock a trade It's possible the top 4 will be QBs but if teams fall in love with players like Barkley or Chubb don't be surprised if they get taken ahead of the QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 This mock sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 It's going to be tough rooting for this team in the foreseeable future if they pick Allen with Rosen and Mayfield available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 No way the QBs drop this much. Literally impossible. This mock is DOA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pointdexter Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Rosen at 15? Baker at 11? Just can't see it. My QB rankings as of today: 1) Mayfield 2) Allen 3) Darnold 4) Rosen 5) Jackson I think too many ppl here are gun-shy of high upside qbs with low college accuracy %. I was the biggest anti-hack fan on the msg boards the year he came out. I knew he sucked. Knew it. Allen is not Hack...by a long shot. He has real potential. My two cents, fwiw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Jesus, If we chose Allen over Rosen I will lose my mind especially at 6. In this scenario ( I was scrolling down slowly) I see only 1 QB taken, so I expect to see Rosen or Mayfield at 6. Not the champion of the underwear olympics. This is almost worse case scenario for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, maury77 said: It's going to be tough rooting for this team in the foreseeable future if they pick Allen with Rosen and Mayfield available. Won’t be that tough, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 I would like to tell you guys how much I care about what Todd McShay has to say about anything let alone his silly mock but I cant for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Pointdexter said: Rosen at 15? Baker at 11? Just can't see it. My QB rankings as of today: 1) Mayfield 2) Allen 3) Darnold 4) Rosen 5) Jackson I think too many ppl here are gun-shy of high upside qbs with low college accuracy %. I was the biggest anti-hack fan on the msg boards the year he came out. I knew he sucked. Knew it. Allen is not Hack...by a long shot. He has real potential. My two cents, fwiw. The part that I think many are missing is that just because most of us have the same top 5 in just about the same order, we have no idea what other GMs are thinking. I can guarantee you that there will be GMs that rank Jackson in the top 2 or 3 and have Mayfiled/Allen at 5 or even lower. For all we know there are GMs that have Rudolph or Lauletta or Falk in their top 4 or 5 (of QBs). There is no way every GM has Mayfield as a top 10 prospect, in fact I am sure there are GMs that wouldn't take him in the 1st round considering his height and attitude while at the same time there are GMs that may be willing to take him #1. Same with Allen considering how raw of a prospect he is. So while many here (including myself) think we need to trade up to get the QB, there is a decent chance one of the top 4 drop to 6 and may even drop out of the top 10. This is why I wanted Cousins because the draft is going to be a giant game of chicken for all these GMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge4Tide Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 I'll take it right now and be happy. Sign a couple of quality OLs in free agency, spend the 2 2nd rounders on a RB and a WR and let's do this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 If this mock has any basis in reality, it certainly makes a mockery of the "Jets must trade up to get a QB!!!" hysteria. This mock has the Jets sitting at #6, with Mayfield, Allen, Rosen, Jackson all still available and only Sunshine Sam Darnold gone. I prefer Mayfield at #6 personally. But I won't be unhappy if at #6 all the QB's are basically still available to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Josh Rosen slips to 15? Id bet serious money that this DOES NOT HAPPEN! The guy has Goff skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 These mocks are pretty pointless until free agents are all signed. Broncos are taking a QB if they don't sign one via free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangrene Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 I expected to Rosen to fall but not this much. When you think of how much Rogers fell, anything is possible. Mayfield falling to Miami is possible. Allen and Hackenberg both on Jets roster, minds might explode... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 it's hard to imagine 3 QBs not going in the top 6 and it could just as easily be 4 but if the Giants, Colts, Browns don't want to trade out because of Barkley/Nelson/Chubb/Fitz then this draft could get interesting really quick. I'm starting to feel more comfortable staying at 6, I'm just concerned with Miami and Buffalo jumping us. We need to hope the Colts are all in on one of these 4 because if the Broncos get Keenum it may not cost a crazy ton for us to get to 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Allen and hackenburg on the same team? It would not be safe to attend practice. The media would have to wear catcher's equipment on the sideline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 13 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Allen and hackenburg on the same team? It would not be safe to attend practice. The media would have to wear catcher's equipment on the sideline. Obviously you've never seen Allen play a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Its fun to to make fun of Josh Allen based on his perceived to be similarities with Hackenberg, and Mayfield for being short & too cocky, Darnold for throwing too many picks & Rosen for being fragile, Jackson for being too much like Vick & RG3 but a couple of these guys out of this group are going to make us critical fools look like complete idiots & become stars, we just cant be sure who the hell they are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 21 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: it's hard to imagine 3 QBs not going in the top 6 and it could just as easily be 4 but if the Giants, Colts, Browns don't want to trade out because of Barkley/Nelson/Chubb/Fitz then this draft could get interesting really quick. I'm starting to feel more comfortable staying at 6, I'm just concerned with Miami and Buffalo jumping us. We need to hope the Colts are all in on one of these 4 because if the Broncos get Keenum it may not cost a crazy ton for us to get to 3. GAWD he's got Rosen dropping to #15 with the Cards. I can't see that happening. I doubt Miami would give up ammo to move past us. They might not be totally in love with Tannehill but at least they have a decent QB. And according to this mock they passed on Rosen too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jetster said: Its fun to to make fun of Josh Allen based on his his perceived to be similarities with Hackenberg, and Mayfield for being short & too cocky, Darnold for thd throwing too many picks & Rosen for being fragile, Jackson for being too much like Vick & RG3 but a couple of these guys out of this group are going to make us critical fools look like complete idiots & become stars, we just cant be sure who the hell they are? That's the fun part. We will know in about 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 28 minutes ago, Gangrene said: I expected to Rosen to fall but not this much. When you think of how much Rogers fell, anything is possible. Mayfield falling to Miami is possible. Allen and Hackenberg both on Jets roster, minds might explode... I can't see Rosen falling this much at all. Coming out of the combine he was the top rated QB followed by Darnold and Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 I think this mock is way off. I predict 4 QB's picked in the top 6 picks. 3 if the Jets or Denver signs Cousins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Thai Jet said: That's the fun part. We will know in about 2 years. I would find it hilarious if both Josh Allen & Lamar Jackson become 2 stud QBs, Allen turns into a Big Ben clone with a bigger arm & Jackson turns out to be a faster RG3 but without the injuries. For the simple reason there are many here who claim they BOTH SUCK, and have zero chance of being good QBs. My only hope is if they do become franchise Qbs its not within our own f*cking division like watching Dan Marino all of those years. "The Jets must know something that the people up her don't" LMAO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Jetster said: I would find it hilarious if both Josh Allen & Lamar Jackson become 2 stud QBs, Allen turns into a Big Ben clone with a bigger arm & Jackson turns out to be a faster RG3 but without the injuries. For the simple reason there are many here who claim they BOTH SUCK, and have zero chance of being good QBs. My only hope is if they do become franchise Qbs its not within our own f*cking division like watching Dan Marino all of those years. "The Jets must know something that the people up her don't" LMAO! I should keep track of all the Allen, haters most of which I know have never seen him play, so I can throw it back at them when he becomes a stud QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 Just now, Thai Jet said: I should keep track of all the Allen, haters most of which I know have never seen him play, so I can throw it back at them when he becomes a stud QB. Add column for the Watson haters from last year who want Mac fired for not picking him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jetster said: I would find it hilarious if both Josh Allen & Lamar Jackson become 2 stud QBs, Allen turns into a Big Ben clone with a bigger arm & Jackson turns out to be a faster RG3 but without the injuries. For the simple reason there are many here who claim they BOTH SUCK, and have zero chance of being good QBs. My only hope is if they do become franchise Qbs its not within our own f*cking division like watching Dan Marino all of those years. "The Jets must know something that the people up her don't" LMAO! I fall in line with this too. I really hope all these QBs are good because it would be great for the NFL. The staple QBs in the league are aging out. This class could definitely be a changing of the guard if half these QBs play well. I just hope whoever goes to the teams within the division bust hard haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, prime21 said: Add column for the Watson haters from last year who want Mac fired for not picking him now. Funny about hindsight isn't it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGDIRK Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: I fall in line with this too. I really hope all these QBs are good because it would be great for the NFL. The staple QBs in the league are aging out. This class could definitely be a changing of the guard if half these QBs play well. I just hope whoever goes to the teams within the division bust hard haha. The NFL really needs this QB draft class to be legit. Brady, Brees, Big Ben are still considered elite QBs. These guys are in the twilight of their careers. Ratings are down bc the product has been subpar driven mainly by lack of high end QB play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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