Jetmech Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Maybe the Barr BS or he was using the Jets to raise the $? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Mac is the Dave Kingman or Rob Deer of acquiring pass rushers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrebetfan80 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 ive said this before and ill say it here... it was the barr fiasco that cost us both Smiths.. One of them Z'darius being the primary one. were the targets if barr wasnt signed.. that was their priority list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TokyoJetsFan Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Maybe we can finally draft a good edge. Would be crazy if we hit on two of our longest running problems on back to back drafts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I don’t understand how the team with the second most cap space in dire need of an edge and center got outbid for both of those positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long time suffering Jets f Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, varjet said: I don’t understand how the team with the second most cap space in dire need of an edge and center got outbid for both of those positions. You can't fault Macc with edge rusher. If it wasn't for Barr getting a belly ache, we would have had the position filled. We had the biggest offer on the table ready to be signed. I still can't believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 27 minutes ago, varjet said: I don’t understand how the team with the second most cap space in dire need of an edge and center got outbid for both of those positions. You can't force somebody to play somewhere that he doesn't want to play. Sometimes a few bucks extra just isn't worth it to them especially with different state tax structures. Sometimes it's family concerns cause "If mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy" . lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, long time suffering Jets f said: You can't fault Macc with edge rusher. If it wasn't for Barr getting a belly ache, we would have had the position filled. We had the biggest offer on the table ready to be signed. I still can't believe it. Most correct but please read my post above . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxAF Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, Thai Jet said: You can't force somebody to play somewhere that he doesn't want to play. Sometimes a few bucks extra just isn't worth it to them especially with different state tax structures. Sometimes it's family concerns cause "If mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy" . lol I’m sure the taxes in NY are stupid higher than in Wisconsin And if 8 of your games get taxed in NY it’s like taking a drastic pay cut. So you need a better deal just to break even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I wonder who offered more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 If you work for the NY Jets all your games are taxed on the NJ scale. Aside from the taxes a lot of people just don't want to live in NY/NJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 If you work for the NY Jets all your games are taxed on the NJ scale. Aside from the taxes a lot of people just don't want to live in NY/NJ. Imagine that. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsherman28 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 37 minutes ago, varjet said: I don’t understand how the team with the second most cap space in dire need of an edge and center got outbid for both of those positions. Not sure we got outbid but more of not inquiring. The word is after we verbally showed interest in Paradis, his agent said he wanted to move to "the country" and we didn't even send an offer to Mitch Morse. For the pass rush, we were going to use Barr as more of a pass rusher like he did in college. Our DC Gregg Williams love's moving a linebacker around in that particular role. However we all know what happened 24 hours after the verbal commitment. I can understand how we got here, we still need to bring in a veteran pass rusher (Justin Houston, Shane Ray, Ziggy). But if we can fill 2 of our major holes in premier pass rusher and center with our first 2 picks in the draft, 3rd and 68th than that would be a quality off season to me with rolling money over next year to continue our growth in the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Remember when a lot of people were like "Gotta draft offense, even if we can't trade down. We'll just sign a pass rusher, or even two!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 33 minutes ago, MaxAF said: I’m sure the taxes in NY are stupid higher than in Wisconsin And if 8 of your games get taxed in NY it’s like taking a drastic pay cut. So you need a better deal just to break even. Exactly. You better believe NYS taxes are higher. That's why people are fleeing the state in droves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 41 minutes ago, Rsherman28 said: Not sure we got outbid but more of not inquiring. The word is after we verbally showed interest in Paradis, his agent said he wanted to move to "the country" and we didn't even send an offer to Mitch Morse. For the pass rush, we were going to use Barr as more of a pass rusher like he did in college. Our DC Gregg Williams love's moving a linebacker around in that particular role. However we all know what happened 24 hours after the verbal commitment. I can understand how we got here, we still need to bring in a veteran pass rusher (Justin Houston, Shane Ray, Ziggy). But if we can fill 2 of our major holes in premier pass rusher and center with our first 2 picks in the draft, 3rd and 68th than that would be a quality off season to me with rolling money over next year to continue our growth in the roster. Scratch Houston , he signed with the Colts.... DAMN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I wanted Zarius, however I'm disappointed to hear we were in the running for such a steep price. This is understandable for a new GM to do so as he's in an unfortunate position due to what he's inherited, however unexcusable for Mac after being here for 4-5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 6 hours ago, Beerfish said: Mac is the Dave Kingman or Rob Deer of acquiring pass rushers, Dave Kingman hit 400 Hr to go with eleventy thousand strikeouts. Where is Mac's home runs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsherman28 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, Thai Jet said: Scratch Houston , he signed with the Colts.... DAMN Right And I realized we gave Anderson 7 annually which puts us out on Ziggy Ansah. I saw he just left Buffalo with out a deal but a good visit. I honestly would be kind of surprised if Seattle does not move Frank Clark this year. They only have 5 million in cap room left and he is on the 1 year franchise tag worth 17.5. Our second 3rd, 6th, ILB Darren Lee Frank Clark and we extend him this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 6 hours ago, Beerfish said: Mac is the Dave Kingman or Rob Deer of acquiring pass rushers, Both struck out most of the time but Kong connected more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 41 minutes ago, Rsherman28 said: Right And I realized we gave Anderson 7 annually which puts us out on Ziggy Ansah. I saw he just left Buffalo with out a deal but a good visit. I honestly would be kind of surprised if Seattle does not move Frank Clark this year. They only have 5 million in cap room left and he is on the 1 year franchise tag worth 17.5. Our second 3rd, 6th, ILB Darren Lee Frank Clark and we extend him this year Second? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 The agents job is to use people It happens hundreds of times every year Man this fan base is permanently butt hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Il Mostro said: Both struck out most of the time but Kong connected more often. And when he did it was gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsRay Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Larz said: The agents job is to use people It happens hundreds of times every year Man this fan base is permanently butt hurt In the head! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 18 hours ago, MaxAF said: I’m sure the taxes in NY are stupid higher than in Wisconsin And if 8 of your games get taxed in NY it’s like taking a drastic pay cut. So you need a better deal just to break even. Uh ... none of the Jets games get taxed in NY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 19 hours ago, Chrebetfan80 said: ive said this before and ill say it here... it was the barr fiasco that cost us both Smiths.. One of them Z'darius being the primary one. were the targets if barr wasnt signed.. that was their priority list. 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 13 hours ago, Thai Jet said: And when he did it was gone Oh yeah. Long, long gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 17 hours ago, Rsherman28 said: Right And I realized we gave Anderson 7 annually which puts us out on Ziggy Ansah. I saw he just left Buffalo with out a deal but a good visit. I honestly would be kind of surprised if Seattle does not move Frank Clark this year. They only have 5 million in cap room left and he is on the 1 year franchise tag worth 17.5. Our second 3rd, 6th, ILB Darren Lee Frank Clark and we extend him this year Clark has a DV history, the Jets won't be acquiring him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxAF Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 20 hours ago, Doggin94it said: Uh ... none of the Jets games get taxed in NY Players pay taxes to states they play in as well as federal taxes. NYS taxes are one of the highest in the country so if you play half your games in NY you will pay more than if you play in Wisconsin. See below. In addition to paying taxes to the IRS and their home team’s state, many professional football players have to pay taxes to every single state in which they play a game, the so-called “jock tax.” That can mean filing as many as 10 different tax returns and coughing up as much as 50% of their salary and bonuses in taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 On 3/21/2019 at 3:43 PM, MaxAF said: I’m sure the taxes in NY are stupid higher than in Wisconsin And if 8 of your games get taxed in NY it’s like taking a drastic pay cut. So you need a better deal just to break even. The cost of living can be 800% higher depending on where you live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxAF Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 2 hours ago, MaxAF said: Players pay taxes to states they play in as well as federal taxes. NYS taxes are one of the highest in the country so if you play half your games in NY you will pay more than if you play in Wisconsin. See below. In addition to paying taxes to the IRS and their home team’s state, many professional football players have to pay taxes to every single state in which they play a game, the so-called “jock tax.” That can mean filing as many as 10 different tax returns and coughing up as much as 50% of their salary and bonuses in taxes. I’m gonna correct this. It’s actually NJ taxes, but they are still much higher than Wisconsin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrickTamland Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 4 hours ago, MaxAF said: Players pay taxes to states they play in as well as federal taxes. NYS taxes are one of the highest in the country so if you play half your games in NY you will pay more than if you play in Wisconsin. See below. In addition to paying taxes to the IRS and their home team’s state, many professional football players have to pay taxes to every single state in which they play a game, the so-called “jock tax.” That can mean filing as many as 10 different tax returns and coughing up as much as 50% of their salary and bonuses in taxes. Source of the quoted material—out of curiosity. I was discussing with someone the other day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 14 hours ago, MaxAF said: Players pay taxes to states they play in as well as federal taxes. NYS taxes are one of the highest in the country so if you play half your games in NY you will pay more than if you play in Wisconsin. See below. In addition to paying taxes to the IRS and their home team’s state, many professional football players have to pay taxes to every single state in which they play a game, the so-called “jock tax.” That can mean filing as many as 10 different tax returns and coughing up as much as 50% of their salary and bonuses in taxes. Dude, are you confused about where the Meadowlands are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxAF Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 So it’s Jersy taxes. Still way higher than Wisconsin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxAF Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 20 hours ago, BrickTamland said: Source of the quoted material—out of curiosity. I was discussing with someone the other day https://smartasset.com/taxes/nfl-jock-taxes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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