#90 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Jets in desperate need for a pass rush. Why didnt they pursue Justin Houston(at all)? Still 30+ million to spend.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 He's not that good could be one reason, his price tag was ridiculous, g Williams didn't like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJF71 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 He had one great year and many not so great years while being injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 The Jets would rather pay less $$$ for Josh Allen's future than more $$$ for Justin Houston's past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Because there are 114 replies in the Houston to the colts thread. Zing!!! Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 hours ago, BornJetsFan1983 said: He's not that good could be one reason, his price tag was ridiculous, g Williams didn't like him. He had 18.5 sacks the past 2 years. 9 sacks last year in 12 games. I guess the Jets have better alternatives on the roster already? They were willing to give a guy with 13 career sacks $15 million per year. $12 million a year for 2 years for a guy who had 9 sacks in 12 games last year doesn't seem too expensive. Don't worry, edge rushers are a dime a dozen. I can't wait for game 8 when the same people defending not going after him are bitching and complaining about the lack of pass rush. Same sh*t different year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Allen or Bosa #3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 He had 18.5 sacks the past 2 years. 9 sacks last year in 12 games. I guess the Jets have better alternatives on the roster already? They were willing to give a guy with 13 career sacks $15 million per year. $12 million a year for 2 years for a guy who had 9 sacks in 12 games last year doesn't seem too expensive. Don't worry, edge rushers are a dime a dozen. I can't wait for game 8 when the same people defending not going after him are bitching and complaining about the lack of pass rush. Same sh*t different year.You don't pay for what someone has done, you pay for what you believe they will do for you.Barr was not played in a pass rushing role at Minnesota, which contributed to his numbers. Houston played opposite Ford, which contributed to his.Sent from my SM-A520F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 thumbs down for multiple threads on Houston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardTodd27 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 8 hours ago, jetstream23 said: The Jets would rather pay less $$$ for Josh Allen's future than more $$$ for Justin Houston's past. We're not allowed to have more than one elite edge pass rusher? Did they ban it after Giants used multiple pass rushers to beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl? Or was it when Denver used their pass rushers to beat Carolina in the Super Bowl? Please give me Ziggy!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, RichardTodd27 said: We're not allowed to have more than one elite edge pass rusher? Did they ban it after Giants used multiple pass rushers to beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl? Or was it when Denver used their pass rushers to beat Carolina in the Super Bowl? Please give me Ziggy!!!!! I’d love more than 1....but let Macc first show us he can get any before we start asking for multiple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettyBoop Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 It's likely that Mac is waiting out Ziggy's asking price. If I had to guess, I would say that Ansah wants a multi-year deal and Mac is only offering a one year incentive based deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsfansince7 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I think they are going to get younger and cheaper in the draft with Bosa or Allen Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 People keep saying “can’t rely on the draft. Can’t rely on the draft.” Thats is what good teams do. Rely on the draft. The real reason people are saying this is that they have no confidence, somewhat justified, that Macc is going to **** up the draft. But there is no other choice. You have to build through the draft. That is how you build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 9 hours ago, #90 said: Jets in desperate need for a pass rush. Why didnt they pursue Justin Houston(at all)? Still 30+ million to spend.? This franchise has no clue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: People keep saying “can’t rely on the draft. Can’t rely on the draft.” Thats is what good teams do. Rely on the draft. The real reason people are saying this is that they have no confidence, somewhat justified, that Macc is going to **** up the draft. But there is no other choice. You have to build through the draft. That is how you build Yet everyone here is screaming for the jets to trade down so they can ignore pass rusher yet again and draft an OT whose ceiling is Kelvin Beachum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 IMO resigning Henry Anderson was helpful to that regard. Tied for the team lead in sacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: IMO resigning Henry Anderson was helpful to that regard. Tied for the team lead in sacks Jets haven’t had a legit edge rusher for 13 years if you can’t pass rush Brady you are never beating him ask the giants and broncos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Just now, Philc1 said: Yet everyone here is screaming for the jets to trade down so they can ignore pass rusher yet again and draft an OT whose ceiling is Kelvin Beachum The bottom line is that even though Macc has had very mixed results In the draft, you have to do it right way anyway. Regardless of whether he sucks at it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Just now, Philc1 said: Jets haven’t had a legit edge rusher for 13 years if you can’t pass rush Brady you are never beating him ask the giants and broncos I agree. And they are a great place to draft one. Which is why people bitching about Justin Houston makes no sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, jetsfansince7 said: I think they are going to get younger and cheaper in the draft with Bosa or Allen Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app If the jets pass on Allen or trade down and don’t get an edge rusher this offseason goes from initially promising to just another lousy Jet offseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: The bottom line is that even though Macc has had very mixed results In the draft, you have to do it right way anyway. Regardless of whether he sucks at it or not. I don’t think even Macc is stupid enough to pass on Allen but his dopey track record combined with this franchise’s ineptitude and making zero effort to sign Houston has me worried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Just now, Philc1 said: I don’t think even Macc isn’t stupid enough to pass on Allen but his dopey track record combined with this franchise’s ineptitude and making zero effort to sign Houston has me worried And you know this how? Any chance Houston just saw the Colts as being closer to winning it all than the Jets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Philc1 said: If the jets pass on Allen or trade down and don’t get an edge rusher this offseason goes from initially promising to just another lousy Jet offseason Good thing you don't win any games in the off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Philc1 said: If the jets pass on Allen or trade down and don’t get an edge rusher this offseason goes from initially promising to just another lousy Jet offseason That's not gonna happen. To be fair to Mac. what real impact pass rushers have been available, since he's been here. I know there have been some in the draft, but those would have been massive reaches. There haven't been many available in FA, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Philc1 said: I don’t think even Macc is stupid enough to pass on Allen but his dopey track record combined with this franchise’s ineptitude and making zero effort to sign Houston has me worried Is that what has you worried? I don't know why but I get the feeling that you are perpetually worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 The age old strat from all good gms is that you at least semi fill big holes on your team in fa so you do not HAVE to draft a player/position. Mac is going to go into the draft and we will have to draft a pass rusher early. Whether it is the best mover overall or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: I agree. And they are a great place to draft one. Which is why people bitching about Justin Houston makes no sense Ofcourse it makes sense. Allen and Houston rushing off the edge would have elevated this defense Instead watch Allen not fall to us at 3 or your hero Macagnan trades down and drafts a Safety again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, genot said: That's not gonna happen. To be fair to Mac. what real impact pass rushers have been available, since he's been here. I know there have been some in the draft, but those would have been massive reaches. There haven't been many available in FA, either. Vic Beasley in 2015 We could have had Khlalil Mack last year he took a pass. Justin Houston IF he made an offer it was a half assed 1 year $12 million deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: Vic Beasley in 2015 We could have had Khlalil Mack last year he took a pass. Justin Houston IF he made an offer it was a half assed 1 year $12 million deal One year wonder. Arron Maybin clone, Phil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Beerfish said: The age old strat from all good gms is that you at least semi fill big holes on your team in fa so you do not HAVE to draft a player/position. Mac is going to go into the draft and we will have to draft a pass rusher early. Whether it is the best mover overall or not. What happens it that "age old strat from all good gms" is spoiled by 1. there arent any players to fill a hole or the ones that are want to play elsewhere? This makes no sense. To me, and its me not an age old stat, you get the help you can when its available. FA first because you know whos available and if not FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 The biggest problem is that the team , as a result of Macc failing to address huge roster deficiencies, has to be more rigid at the draft. They can only trade back so far or risk losing out on blue chip talents. With Houston a trade back wouldn’t leave a gaping talent hole at EDGE. Now if we trade back and draft Bradbury, Samuel, Risner then we still have no pass rushers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardTodd27 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 48 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: I’d love more than 1....but let Macc first show us he can get any before we start asking for multiple. Agreed. I can only imagine the reaction here if we don't get Ziggy (or any other edge rusher) and take Quinen over Josh Allen at pick #3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: What happens it that "age old strat from all good gms" is spoiled by 1. there arent any players to fill a hole or the ones that are want to play elsewhere? This makes no sense. To me, and its me not an age old stat, you get the help you can when its available. FA first because you know whos available and if not FA. Every dingle gm and team claims they follow the age old strat. Mac has had 4 years to find at least a passable pass rushing olb and he he has failed or ignored it, much like his 4 years to upgrade the oline in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, kdels62 said: The biggest problem is that the team , as a result of Macc failing to address huge roster deficiencies, has to be more rigid at the draft. They can only trade back so far or risk losing out on blue chip talents. With Houston a trade back wouldn’t leave a gaping talent hole at EDGE. Now if we trade back and draft Bradbury, Samuel, Risner then we still have no pass rushers. I dont think you would draft Bradbury in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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