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31 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Any coach worth hiring will see how gase is a loser who didn't deserve an NFL head coaching job.

You really sound clueless when you say shlt like this.  Other than some fans, who all have their favorites so hate the other choices, no one thought this was a bad hire.  In fact all thought it would be great given his history with QBs and having Darnold 

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4 hours ago, JiF said:

Early returns are bad and I have zero confidence in Adam Gase but firing him after this disaster of a season is just a bad idea.  Give Douglas and Gase an off-season together.  What’s the harm?  The Jets suck again? 

This, but I have a little more than zero confidence in Gase due to him pushing Mac out

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4 hours ago, JiF said:

Early returns are bad and I have zero confidence in Adam Gase but firing him after this disaster of a season is just a bad idea.  Give Douglas and Gase an off-season together.  What’s the harm?  The Jets suck again? 

The harm is destroying Darnold.  Not giving him the resources or coaching to succeed can be devastating.  

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7 hours ago, T0mShane said:

So, Todd Bowles is respected league-wide for his coaching ability and his class, etc, and the Jets hired him, then hung the worst personnel department in league history around his neck, and Bowles never once bitched about all the trash players Mike Maccagnan dropped on his doorstep. As thanks, Chris Johnson fired league-respected Todd Bowles and kept Mike Maccagnan, who lasted five more months in the job before getting shanked by fellow league-respected coach Adam Gase. 

Todd Bowles was unemployed for thirty seconds and is currently living his best life in Tampa, where he has rejuvenated the Bucs into an aggressive, attacking defense. Todd Bowles is now, once again, a hot head coaching candidate and will get copious interviews for jobs this offseason. This happens because the Jets franchise is, in fact, *not* respected around the league and the head coaching job is widely considered to be a career-killer.

And while Todd Bowles flourishes, the Jets remain a laughingstock team with an awful roster built by an historically terrible GM who was inexplicably allowed to survive as league-respected Todd Bowles was fired, and that GM subsequently put together what can only be described as a catastrophic offseason from tip to stern. The league isn’t blaming Adam Gase for this mess. They’re blaming this mess on The Jets being The Jets.

The coaching fraternity is small and insular. They know what jobs are good and which jobs are kamikaze missions. Guess where the Jets job ranks? 

So, please, go ahead and cry about Adam Gase and, sure, let’s fire him after one season. And then let’s act bewildered when second tier head coaching candidates don’t even pick up the phone when The Jets call for an interview. Maybe  The Jets can pick up whatever bottom-of-the-barrel candidate the Redskins eventually pass on. 

Or, maybe we give Joe Douglas and Adam Gase one (1) offseason to purge the roster and start the hard work of an actual rebuild? Maybe? I don’t know—it’s just a thought that maybe it’ll take more than <checks calendar> five months and/or three games to repair a roster that was twenty games under .500 over the last three seasons. 

I think Todd Bowles,  regardless of the hand he was dealt,  is a terrible HC. I could go on and on with complaints.  With that said,  I agree with you. It's classic knee jerk reaction to wildly criticize Gase after 3 games at the helm. I hate what's happened with the Jets as much as anyone, but getting mad at it and attempting to blame someone serves no purpose other than to fracture the front office's confidence in being able to turn this thing around. 

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8 hours ago, T0mShane said:

So, Todd Bowles is respected league-wide for his coaching ability and his class, etc, and the Jets hired him, then hung the worst personnel department in league history around his neck, and Bowles never once bitched about all the trash players Mike Maccagnan dropped on his doorstep. As thanks, Chris Johnson fired league-respected Todd Bowles and kept Mike Maccagnan, who lasted five more months in the job before getting shanked by fellow league-respected coach Adam Gase. 

Todd Bowles was unemployed for thirty seconds and is currently living his best life in Tampa, where he has rejuvenated the Bucs into an aggressive, attacking defense. Todd Bowles is now, once again, a hot head coaching candidate and will get copious interviews for jobs this offseason. This happens because the Jets franchise is, in fact, *not* respected around the league and the head coaching job is widely considered to be a career-killer.

And while Todd Bowles flourishes, the Jets remain a laughingstock team with an awful roster built by an historically terrible GM who was inexplicably allowed to survive as league-respected Todd Bowles was fired, and that GM subsequently put together what can only be described as a catastrophic offseason from tip to stern. The league isn’t blaming Adam Gase for this mess. They’re blaming this mess on The Jets being The Jets.

The coaching fraternity is small and insular. They know what jobs are good and which jobs are kamikaze missions. Guess where the Jets job ranks? 

So, please, go ahead and cry about Adam Gase and, sure, let’s fire him after one season. And then let’s act bewildered when second tier head coaching candidates don’t even pick up the phone when The Jets call for an interview. Maybe  The Jets can pick up whatever bottom-of-the-barrel candidate the Redskins eventually pass on. 

Or, maybe we give Joe Douglas and Adam Gase one (1) offseason to purge the roster and start the hard work of an actual rebuild? Maybe? I don’t know—it’s just a thought that maybe it’ll take more than <checks calendar> five months and/or three games to repair a roster that was twenty games under .500 over the last three seasons. 

Where the hell did you copy and paste that from???  No way you are that articulate and deep. ?

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17 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said:

All I'm saying is I don't think Gase getting fired early moves the needle. Either guys aren't listening because the owners are trash or they are. A terrible coach getting fired early is irrelevant to people who are willing to listen otherwise, and Gase is most certainly a terrible coach.

Yeah but he needs at least until 2022 to insure we all know he is terrible 

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17 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said:

I don't think it's a coincidence that the franchise has gone into a complete death spiral since the Johnsons parted ways with the last remnants of the Parcells regime.

The Johnsons cannot get a GM hire right, ever

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17 hours ago, FidelioJet said:

I agree Woody Johnson is the problem.  

Mac was the worst GM we've ever seen (worse than Idzik by far) and yes, JD hasn't been good - not having more kickers in camp (when our kicker couldn't make a kick in pre-season) is truly mind boggling.

Ownership continues to do ridiculous things like force a DC on a HC or allow a GM to continue to draft DT's in the 1st round -

but regardless of all of that - there aren't these superstar HC's floating around that simply won't interview with the Jets because of Woody. Which was the point of my post.

McCarthy wanted to coach here. Probably still does (because he knows Sam is a potential future star)

 

Offer Harbaugh $100 milllion and complete control (I.E - Woody and Chrissy promise he will never see their ugly faces)  he comes here

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17 hours ago, section314 said:

Why the fascination with this guy? He's has done the impossible....made Michigan an afterthought in the Big 10. His next job will be in the TV booth. Keep this loser as far away from the Jets as possible.

College is totally different that’s why Nick Saban can’t survive a year with the Dolphins but is the Mike Kryzewski of college football 

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21 hours ago, T0mShane said:

So, Todd Bowles is respected league-wide for his coaching ability and his class, etc, and the Jets hired him, then hung the worst personnel department in league history around his neck, and Bowles never once bitched about all the trash players Mike Maccagnan dropped on his doorstep. As thanks, Chris Johnson fired league-respected Todd Bowles and kept Mike Maccagnan, who lasted five more months in the job before getting shanked by fellow league-respected coach Adam Gase. 

Todd Bowles was unemployed for thirty seconds and is currently living his best life in Tampa, where he has rejuvenated the Bucs into an aggressive, attacking defense. Todd Bowles is now, once again, a hot head coaching candidate and will get copious interviews for jobs this offseason. This happens because the Jets franchise is, in fact, *not* respected around the league and the head coaching job is widely considered to be a career-killer.

And while Todd Bowles flourishes, the Jets remain a laughingstock team with an awful roster built by an historically terrible GM who was inexplicably allowed to survive as league-respected Todd Bowles was fired, and that GM subsequently put together what can only be described as a catastrophic offseason from tip to stern. The league isn’t blaming Adam Gase for this mess. They’re blaming this mess on The Jets being The Jets.

The coaching fraternity is small and insular. They know what jobs are good and which jobs are kamikaze missions. Guess where the Jets job ranks? 

So, please, go ahead and cry about Adam Gase and, sure, let’s fire him after one season. And then let’s act bewildered when second tier head coaching candidates don’t even pick up the phone when The Jets call for an interview. Maybe  The Jets can pick up whatever bottom-of-the-barrel candidate the Redskins eventually pass on. 

Or, maybe we give Joe Douglas and Adam Gase one (1) offseason to purge the roster and start the hard work of an actual rebuild? Maybe? I don’t know—it’s just a thought that maybe it’ll take more than <checks calendar> five months and/or three games to repair a roster that was twenty games under .500 over the last three seasons. 

Todd Bowles was the worst HC we have had since Rich Kotite.  Adam Gase can coach circles around him but no coach is winning under the circumstances we have seen this first month. 

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15 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

Todd Bowles was the worst HC we have had since Rich Kotite.  Adam Gase can coach circles around him but no coach is winning under the circumstances we have seen this first month. 

Yeah, Todd wasn’t good here. My point was that you can’t just throw coaches away, especially ones who are established and relatively respected in the league. It’s poor form, and poisons the well for future candidates. 

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NBC Sports Philadelphia•Oct 4, 2019, 2:23 PM

The Jets have one of the worst offenses in NFL history.

And we're not exaggerating.

If the Eagles' defense struggles against this group then there's no hope.

Not only are the Jets starting a rookie sixth-round quarterback who's never thrown a touchdown pass, their offense is operating at a historically wretched level three games into the season.

-> The Jets have one offensive touchdown in three games. They are the 28th team in NFL history to score one or fewer offensive TD in its first three games and the 12th in the last 25 years.

-> With just 590 yards of offense - 197 per game - the Jets have the 13th-fewest yards after three games in the NFL in the last 40 years.

-> The Jets' 36 first downs are the 9th-fewest through three games in the last 25 years.

-> Stats on this are only available since 1999, but since then the Jets' seven rushing first downs are 8th-fewest in the league after three games.

-> The Jets are converting an NFL-worst 21 percent of their third downs. That's the 20th-lowest figure on record going back to 1999.

-> The Jets are averaging an NFL-worst 3.43 yards per play, the worst figure in 13 years (Raiders 3.34 in 2006) and 12th -lowest in the last 40 years.

-> They're also only the 12th team in the last 40 years with fewer than 500 passing yards and fewer than 200 rushing yards after three games.

-> The Jets are the 6th team in NFL history with more defensive touchdowns (three) than offensive touchdowns (one) three weeks into a season and the first team in NFL history with two more defensive TDs than offensive.

-> The Jets are averaging just 3.7 net yards per pass attempt, the lowest figure after three games since the 2006 Raiders (2.4)

-> The Jets are the first team in 23 years (1996 Cards) to average 3.0 yards or worse per rushing play and below 4.0 yards per passing play. 

-> Even with a top-10 defense, the Jets have still been outscored by an average of 12.3 points per game, the their largest margin per game since 1976.

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23 hours ago, T0mShane said:

So, Todd Bowles is respected league-wide for his coaching ability and his class, etc, and the Jets hired him, then hung the worst personnel department in league history around his neck, and Bowles never once bitched about all the trash players Mike Maccagnan dropped on his doorstep. As thanks, Chris Johnson fired league-respected Todd Bowles and kept Mike Maccagnan, who lasted five more months in the job before getting shanked by fellow league-respected coach Adam Gase. 

Todd Bowles was unemployed for thirty seconds and is currently living his best life in Tampa, where he has rejuvenated the Bucs into an aggressive, attacking defense. Todd Bowles is now, once again, a hot head coaching candidate and will get copious interviews for jobs this offseason. This happens because the Jets franchise is, in fact, *not* respected around the league and the head coaching job is widely considered to be a career-killer.

And while Todd Bowles flourishes, the Jets remain a laughingstock team with an awful roster built by an historically terrible GM who was inexplicably allowed to survive as league-respected Todd Bowles was fired, and that GM subsequently put together what can only be described as a catastrophic offseason from tip to stern. The league isn’t blaming Adam Gase for this mess. They’re blaming this mess on The Jets being The Jets.

The coaching fraternity is small and insular. They know what jobs are good and which jobs are kamikaze missions. Guess where the Jets job ranks? 

So, please, go ahead and cry about Adam Gase and, sure, let’s fire him after one season. And then let’s act bewildered when second tier head coaching candidates don’t even pick up the phone when The Jets call for an interview. Maybe  The Jets can pick up whatever bottom-of-the-barrel candidate the Redskins eventually pass on. 

Or, maybe we give Joe Douglas and Adam Gase one (1) offseason to purge the roster and start the hard work of an actual rebuild? Maybe? I don’t know—it’s just a thought that maybe it’ll take more than <checks calendar> five months and/or three games to repair a roster that was twenty games under .500 over the last three seasons. 

You know it is possible to agree with your premise and still think Gase is wrong.  Why throw more bad money after good?  

What's your position on why Gase?  All your comments make sense.  But why are you so sure Gase is someone that should be involved?

 

 

 

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21 hours ago, FidelioJet said:

The harm is destroying Darnold.  Not giving him the resources or coaching to succeed can be devastating.  

This, I am not ready to crush Gase until I see healthy Darnold out there in the offense for a couple of games

if Sam is not rolling out an throwing deep on a few plays - then agree it's better to fail fast and move on, the only point to this season was was to see Sam develop (Mac did not help Sam or the team with that terrible draft)

JD made sure his contract length gave him time for another HC if needed so don't see him as a puppet

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I don’t like Adam Gase.....never liked the hire....but you have to give him at least next year with a healthy and retooled squad. We can’t keep rinse and repeating coaches, yet want a top candidate to come in here....

no one worth a damn is coming in here to play savior to a dumpster fire....the problem that plagues this franchise is drafting....we’ve been atrocious at it and things won’t get better around here until that changes...no matter who the coach is...let Joe D work his magic in the draft(hopefully, or we’re so far screwed you have to laugh to keep from crying)  and reevaluate in a year or 2...

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On 10/5/2019 at 9:04 AM, T0mShane said:

So, Todd Bowles is respected league-wide for his coaching ability and his class, etc, and the Jets hired him, then hung the worst personnel department in league history around his neck, and Bowles never once bitched about all the trash players Mike Maccagnan dropped on his doorstep. As thanks, Chris Johnson fired league-respected Todd Bowles and kept Mike Maccagnan, who lasted five more months in the job before getting shanked by fellow league-respected coach Adam Gase. 

Todd Bowles was unemployed for thirty seconds and is currently living his best life in Tampa, where he has rejuvenated the Bucs into an aggressive, attacking defense. Todd Bowles is now, once again, a hot head coaching candidate and will get copious interviews for jobs this offseason. This happens because the Jets franchise is, in fact, *not* respected around the league and the head coaching job is widely considered to be a career-killer.

And while Todd Bowles flourishes, the Jets remain a laughingstock team with an awful roster built by an historically terrible GM who was inexplicably allowed to survive as league-respected Todd Bowles was fired, and that GM subsequently put together what can only be described as a catastrophic offseason from tip to stern. The league isn’t blaming Adam Gase for this mess. They’re blaming this mess on The Jets being The Jets.

The coaching fraternity is small and insular. They know what jobs are good and which jobs are kamikaze missions. Guess where the Jets job ranks? 

So, please, go ahead and cry about Adam Gase and, sure, let’s fire him after one season. And then let’s act bewildered when second tier head coaching candidates don’t even pick up the phone when The Jets call for an interview. Maybe  The Jets can pick up whatever bottom-of-the-barrel candidate the Redskins eventually pass on. 

Or, maybe we give Joe Douglas and Adam Gase one (1) offseason to purge the roster and start the hard work of an actual rebuild? Maybe? I don’t know—it’s just a thought that maybe it’ll take more than <checks calendar> five months and/or three games to repair a roster that was twenty games under .500 over the last three seasons. 

Bingo! Spot on! 

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On 10/5/2019 at 12:47 PM, Jet Nut said:

You really sound clueless when you say shlt like this.  Other than some fans, who all have their favorites so hate the other choices, no one thought this was a bad hire.  In fact all thought it would be great given his history with QBs and having Darnold 

 

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1 hour ago, carlito1171 said:

I don’t like Adam Gase.....never liked the hire....but you have to give him at least next year with a healthy and retooled squad. We can’t keep rinse and repeating coaches, yet want a top candidate to come in here....

no one worth a damn is coming in here to play savior to a dumpster fire....the problem that plagues this franchise is drafting....we’ve been atrocious at it and things won’t get better around here until that changes...no matter who the coach is...let Joe D work his magic in the draft(hopefully, or we’re so far screwed you have to laugh to keep from crying)  and reevaluate in a year or 2...

Gase could look bad enough to pull the plug on him this year and cut our losses.

I think we need to go up against more comparable teams with a recovered Darnold and roster to make that assessment.

But unless this team looks better coached in the second half of the season , I would pull the plug on Gase.  

55 yard field goal from Ficken?  Eagles get the ball on the 45?

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Gase is really something awful but the lot of you really give the Johnsons way too much credit. They got Gase for a reason, because he was cheap. The fact that they are still going to have to pay him and that they can also sell the fans on all the injuries means he's here next year. Not to mention the player contracts the Jets have. Get used to it, this is pretty much the team and coaching staff you're getting next year too.

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On 10/5/2019 at 9:04 AM, T0mShane said:

So, Todd Bowles is respected league-wide for his coaching ability and his class, etc, and the Jets hired him, then hung the worst personnel department in league history around his neck, and Bowles never once bitched about all the trash players Mike Maccagnan dropped on his doorstep. As thanks, Chris Johnson fired league-respected Todd Bowles and kept Mike Maccagnan, who lasted five more months in the job before getting shanked by fellow league-respected coach Adam Gase. 

Todd Bowles was unemployed for thirty seconds and is currently living his best life in Tampa, where he has rejuvenated the Bucs into an aggressive, attacking defense. Todd Bowles is now, once again, a hot head coaching candidate and will get copious interviews for jobs this offseason. This happens because the Jets franchise is, in fact, *not* respected around the league and the head coaching job is widely considered to be a career-killer.

And while Todd Bowles flourishes, the Jets remain a laughingstock team with an awful roster built by an historically terrible GM who was inexplicably allowed to survive as league-respected Todd Bowles was fired, and that GM subsequently put together what can only be described as a catastrophic offseason from tip to stern. The league isn’t blaming Adam Gase for this mess. They’re blaming this mess on The Jets being The Jets.

The coaching fraternity is small and insular. They know what jobs are good and which jobs are kamikaze missions. Guess where the Jets job ranks? 

So, please, go ahead and cry about Adam Gase and, sure, let’s fire him after one season. And then let’s act bewildered when second tier head coaching candidates don’t even pick up the phone when The Jets call for an interview. Maybe  The Jets can pick up whatever bottom-of-the-barrel candidate the Redskins eventually pass on. 

Or, maybe we give Joe Douglas and Adam Gase one (1) offseason to purge the roster and start the hard work of an actual rebuild? Maybe? I don’t know—it’s just a thought that maybe it’ll take more than <checks calendar> five months and/or three games to repair a roster that was twenty games under .500 over the last three seasons. 

Todd bowles flourishes. LMAO.  Nice try, your favorite coach still suck.  If you ask me, Gregg Williams is doing a more super job than your hero.  He is the only reason we had not been blow out in every game.  His defense have scored more TD than the one offensive TD. lol

49niners 31 Buck 17

Bucs 20  Panther  14

Giants 31 Bucks 30 

Bucks 55 Rams 40.

So yeah Todd Bowles was trash with us and he is trash with the Bucks.  

 

The Jets being the Jets with retarded owners was the only reason they pass on Mike McCarthy who resurrected Bret Favre career and groomed a late first round into super QB who wanted to be here for this no imagination clown who was full of shhhit who try to beat his previous owner and his team had a mini mutiny.   

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1 hour ago, Jet Nut said:

As I thought, you have no idea, can't come with offensive plays or changes. 

What did you and whoever Anthony H is did you expect from the Jets? 

Nothing 

You defended Bowles and Macagnan for years and their sh-tshow now you’re defending the current sh-tshow featuring the retarded version of Mangini

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1 hour ago, DRJETS said:

Todd bowles flourishes. LMAO.  Nice try, your favorite coach still suck.  If you ask me, Gregg Williams is doing a more super job than your hero.  He is the only reason we had not been blow out in every game.  His defense have scored more TD than the one offensive TD. lol

49niners 31 Buck 17

Bucs 20  Panther  14

Giants 31 Bucks 30 

Bucks 55 Rams 40.

So yeah Todd Bowles was trash with us and he is trash with the Bucks.  

 

The Jets being the Jets with retarded owners was the only reason they pass on Mike McCarthy who resurrected Bret Favre career and groomed a late first round into super QB who wanted to be here for this no imagination clown who was full of shhhit who try to beat his previous owner and his team had a mini mutiny.   

I cannot believe the Johnsons took a pass on McCarthy FOR THIS DUMB FUK

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24 minutes ago, Philc1 said:

I cannot believe the Johnsons took a pass on McCarthy FOR THIS DUMB FUK

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To this day I still cannot believe it.  And many of the fans here that are now appalled were defended the Johnson and their rationale for passing on a great HC with a proven QB development history for this clown.  Mind blowing.

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