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Sewell at LG + Becton at LT = Nobody will stop the Jets running left for 10 years.


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57 minutes ago, Jetster said:

I've said that in other threads, 2 free agent moves, Sign Thuney + Lindsey, move McGovern to RG (he's better there anyway), Sewell at RT. 

That line would gel FAST with Becton in his 2nd year, 3 veterans manning the inside in Thuney, Lindsey & McGovern. Cut Fant, save 8 million, that means you revamped your entire Oline in 2 years & only paid Lindsey approx. 2 million (Fants 8 + 2, 10 million per year) & Thuney (probably between 13/15 Million). That would still leave approx. 80-85 million in free agency. 

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45 minutes ago, Defense Wins Championships said:

Sewell is a phenom in pass protection and yes a much better blindside pass protector than Becton (who's already allowed 6 sacks this year). 

If we draft Penei Sewell he automatically becomes our LT and Becton as more of a road grading mauler will slide over to RT (where he belongs when in comparison to Penei Sewell). 

Becton fell to #11 for a reason. Sewell would never fall past #3. Sewell is BETTER than Becton @ LT ppl. 

Best argument you’ve made for this so far. Less words = more salient points. Good for you.

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1 hour ago, bitonti said:

the problem with this logic is it assumes the Jets are looking to pay anyone their second contract

that hasn't happened for years 

more likely they trade them for a 3rd and a 5th and keep it moving 

The Jets haven’t drafted anyone worthy of a second contract in a decade . Becton is worth it. Star at a premium position 

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2 hours ago, bitonti said:

the problem with this logic is it assumes the Jets are looking to pay anyone their second contract

that hasn't happened for years 

more likely they trade them for a 3rd and a 5th and keep it moving 

Considering Miami traded their LT for a 1st round pick you’d have 5 years to develop a cheaper option & trade 1 of them. 
Teams only get a 5 year window at the Super Bowl anyway. You think Green Bay beats KC in a shootout? 
Only way you beat Mahomes is to keep him on the sideline so he doesn’t get into that crazy rhythm he loves! 
You need a balanced offense to take over in the 4th & have him watch you covert & tire out his defense while he’s twiddling his thumbs on the sideline. 

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1 hour ago, Integrity28 said:

Sewell won’t stay for a second contract, because he’d leave to get paid like a Tackle. 

Sewell will become our Franchise LT. 

It'll become Becton who becomes a RT. 

And then once Free Agency happens? ?

We'll be able to see how much of a REAL FAN Becton is; once he refuses to take less money from the Jets as an NFL RT. 

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While tempting, financially and re resource management, drafting Sewell is not realistic — unless Douglass has a gun to his head. You don’t draft two Franchise LT’s in successive years — that’s asking for roster/contract trouble in just a few years, if not sooner.

What would the team gain by playing two Franchise LTs, one out of position, for a few years? This position is so coveted and Sewell such a good prospect, the Jets are virtually guaranteed to get an acceptable trade back offer. 

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33 minutes ago, Vader said:

While tempting, financially and re resource management, drafting Sewell is not realistic — unless Douglass has a gun to his head. You don’t draft two Franchise LT’s in successive years — that’s asking for roster/contract trouble in just a few years, if not sooner.

What would the team gain by playing two Franchise LTs, one out of position, for a few years? This position is so coveted and Sewell such a good prospect, the Jets are virtually guaranteed to get an acceptable trade back offer. 

if they get an amazing trade back offer then do it. otherwise draft sewell and build an incredible oline

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51 minutes ago, Defense Wins Championships said:

I'm from the days where football fans actually talk, football. 

You're a fan of one line fillers? Good for you. 

Go join TWITTER (you'll fit right in). 

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32 minutes ago, neckdemon said:

if they get an amazing trade back offer then do it. otherwise draft sewell and build an incredible oline

That’s my point — you can’t really build an incredible OL with two Franchise LTs. You would have a few years, max, if that, if they both “cooperate”. 

You will have to sign one to a second “Franchise LT” contract, and no GM would sign a RT to a duplicative “Franchise LT” contract, and I am willing to bet one of these two players would not cooperate with playing at a lower positional value for very long.... The “Other” OT would have to be traded well before the second contract in order to get any real value back.

The only way you draft Sewell is in recognition that either he or Becton are gone in a few years, and you will get a few years of dominant bookend Tackle play (not even guaranteeing interior line play) and the one playing RT will NOT be happy. 

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1 hour ago, Defense Wins Championships said:

Sewell will become our Franchise LT. 

It'll become Becton who becomes a RT. 

And then once Free Agency happens? ?

We'll be able to see how much of a REAL FAN Becton is; once he refuses to take less money from the Jets as an NFL RT. 

Love the idea of wasting 2 overall on a player that at his peak may only end up marginally better than our current starter. Guess what Sewell is super good but Sewell has played fewer vertical pass sets than other 1st round prospects in this draft. Wanna go further, Sewell’s greatest gift is lateral quickness, a trait usually highly regarded for Guards. Unless Sewell runs under a 4.8 he’s going to rate physically not much differently than Tristan Wirfs and Mekhi Becton who are elite physical talents. 

There is no value in drafting Sewell and replacing Becton with him. In their career peak Becton and peak Sewell will ever negligibly different.  

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8 minutes ago, kdels62 said:

Except if you take Sewell that’s where he’s starting this year. So yes the “draft Sewell” people are wrong

There’s no way they draft Sewell at 2 and play him at G. It’s a total waste of the player’s ability. You kick a college OT inside when they can’t pass-pro at the NFL level, not the other way around.

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8 minutes ago, Vader said:

There’s no way they draft Sewell at 2 and play him at G. It’s a total waste of the player’s ability. You kick a college OT inside when they can’t pass-pro at the NFL level, not the other way around.

Sewell barely ran vertical pass sets and took a year off. He can pass block but it’s not a slam dunk. He’s a great talent and represents a bigger improvement over Elflien at G than he would Fant at Tackle. In the end taking him at two is a bad idea for this team. If we were the Bengals I wouldn’t even hesitate.

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As good as it sounds great drafting Sewell, would be great in fantasy.  Would be great line no doubt for the next 3-4 years,  We need to look 4-5 years down the road where you cannot afford to invest top dollar in two tackles.  Today's football you need to look 4-5 years down the line.  We neglected to do that when we drafted a box safety in Jamal Adams.  Lets face it the Jets are not ready to contend in the next 1-2 years, so to invest so much draft capital in Sewell is not practical,  If it was up to me I trade back a couple of picks and accumulate additional draft capital.

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22 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said:

I’d rather trade down from sewell, pick our top rated center and perhaps 4th or 5th rated T. Then, sign Thuney or Sherff, and move McGovern to G. 

Yup.  Similar thoughts.

Sign Thuney and put him next to Becton.  Draft a top rated C/OG and for 2021 play that rookie at RG next to McGovern.  In 2022, move the rookie to Center and let McGovern go.  Fant is serviceable at RT for 2021 and the Jets have at least 3 other guards who could compete for RG while Thuney plays LG (Lewis, GVR, Clark).

The key to the OLine in 2021 is signing someone like Thuney and drafting a top rated Center/OG prospect who wouldn't be taken at #2 and could be found at the beginning of Round 2 (Creed Humphrey, Josh Myers, Rashawn Slater?).  This lets the Jets improve the OLine while still having the #2 overall pick do what they please.

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You are underrating becton. His measurables make Sewell look like a third rounder in comparison. He dominated as a rookie and is arguably already the best LT in football. It’s highly unlikely that Sewell is as good as Becton. The idea of moving Becton to the right after how well he’s played makes no sense. 

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