Popular Post slats Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 10 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: I like Adams now more then I ever did before. He is 100% correct in this. Seattle traded 2 1sts for him and he now has them by the balls. He would be a fool to sign for anything less then 18 mil a year. I see a holdout here with the hawks caving right b4 the season starts. Kind of like what revis did to us back in the day. He only has as much leverage as Seattle chooses to give him. If they’re willing to essentially admit their mistake in making that trade by not giving him a stupid contract that would only compound that mistake, then he has no leverage at all. If I’m Seattle, that’s the tack I take with him. His agent can bring up what they traded and Jamal’s sacks, I’ll be talking about his deficiencies in pass coverage. I wouldn’t be offering a deal that made him the highest paid safety, let alone the position busting contract he’s rumored to want. He can play under the fifth year option this year, and then Seattle can tag him for the next two, and they will have paid him significantly less than what he’s looking for, and gotten four total seasons out of him for those picks. They can reasonably sell to their fan base that they did what they could but that Jamal was unreasonable. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 2 hours ago, EM31 said: Are our draft prospects (with their pick) better or worse if he sits out? Honestly I think they are worse. Best case for us is they franchise him and then twist the defensive scheme into pretzels so he can be showcased going after the QB. All of this at the expense of covering in the secondary. I wonder if opposing OCs are clued in to the idea to throw to where he is supposed to be because it is a win if he is back there or a win if he is not? Jamal Adams isnt taking another snap for the Seattle Seahawks until he has a long term deal that makes him the highest paid safety in the league. Hes not eligible to be franchise and even if he was, hed never play under that. Hed sit out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post viffer Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 14 hours ago, GangGreenDover said: Y’all stop the clowning on this dude.. that is so lame!!! Jamal been off the team for a 1 year now going on 2. We done moved on, we get it!!! we won the trade now it’s our time!!! I feel like Zach gone ball out honestly, but it be y’all type fans that causes bad luck. Then we wonder why we suck every year!!! Damn can we just focus on our team guys!!! #AllGasNoBrakes? Uh, no. There is nothing going on in Jets land until camp starts at the end of the month. In the meantime, Jamal threads are entertaining. It's never too late to make fun of that clown. If you don't like Jamal threads then why are you posting here? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 10 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: I like Adam I see a holdout here with the hawks caving right b4 the season starts. Kind of like what revis did to us back in the day. Would be a VERY expensive hold out. Things have changed in the CBA since Revis. Adams holds out it will cost him $40,000 a day. Teams can not forgive it when the contract is resolved. The fine is Mandatory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 16 hours ago, jgb said: How does any team make this trade without agreeing to an extension first? This has a real chance to go down as one of the dumbest trades in NFL history. I always figured that Jamal had a wink, wink, and a handshake new contract in place with Seattle that would be announced in the off season. It is mind boggling to me that they truly went into this without having Adams locked in beyond this season. Seattle front office should be ashamed of itself for pandering to Pete Carroll's childlike wish to get Jamal. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Seattle would be smart to cut their loses and trade him for a 1st and 3rd or something....they aren't smart tho they just rolled over for Wilson and they will do the same for Adams. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addage Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Seattle puts out the welcome mat for tough, brash players. Jamal certainly is that. Seattle is also tough in their contract negotiations. Some of their former tough, brash players ended their time with the Hawks in anger and disgust. Earl Thomas is an illustration of that. And Earl was a Seahawk great. So I don't think Seattle will cave quickly. From Jamal's perspective, Leveon Bell has to be a lesson in life for players who buy their own hype. Leveon's hold out cost him $Millions and shortened his career. Even Jamal can figure that out, maybe with the help of his agent. As pointed out previously, the Franchise Tag is an option for Seattle. The press will be ugly, but more nationally than locally. This is where ownership matters. With Paul Allen's death, his wife Jody is the key figure. No one knows how that will play out. It's certainly a good thing that, for once, it is not the Jets who will be the butt of all the jokes and contempt. For that, we can than JD. And I do so every day. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 2 hours ago, slats said: He only has as much leverage as Seattle chooses to give him. If they’re willing to essentially admit their mistake in making that trade by not giving him a stupid contract that would only compound that mistake, then he has no leverage at all. If I’m Seattle, that’s the tack I take with him. His agent can bring up what they traded and Jamal’s sacks, I’ll be talking about his deficiencies in pass coverage. I wouldn’t be offering a deal that made him the highest paid safety, let alone the position busting contract he’s rumored to want. He can play under the fifth year option this year, and then Seattle can tag him for the next two, and they will have paid him significantly less than what he’s looking for, and gotten four total seasons out of him for those picks. They can reasonably sell to their fan base that they did what they could but that Jamal was unreasonable. Hes never playing under his 5th year. That would be insanely stupid for him and his agent. What if he blows out his knee??? Then he wont get the long term deal he wants. I repeat, Jamal Adams is NEVER playing another snap in Seattle until hes the highest paid safety in the league. And thinking seattle has leverage is crazy talk. He aint showing up until they pay him. They have less then 0 leverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: Jamal Adams isnt taking another snap for the Seattle Seahawks until he has a long term deal that makes him the highest paid safety in the league. Hes not eligible to be franchise and even if he was, hed never play under that. Hed sit out. They all say that but his agent has to be telling him that $18M/yr. may no longer be reachable for him and that sitting out a year is only going to make that matter worse, He is not worth today what he was "worth" a year ago and that is simply a fact. Let's be honest, many of us think he was not worth that much back then. Seattle has already got some pretty substantial sunk cost in this deal so logic would tell us that the pressure on them to sign him to a deal is very high. Adding on multiple years at an $18M/Yr. average after they have seen him up close and personal is probably a bigger risk and throwing good money after bad. Now if Seattle wants to give him a fig leaf with larger salaries in the non-guaranteed out years to get him up to $18M on paper that may be another matter. Salary cap gurus feel free to jump in here and tell me that kind of contract structure is not longer permitted with large balloon payments at the end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 If he sits out then Seattle gets to play the malcontent not a team player card. It gives THEM cover to walk away from a huge deal. Even if he were an unrestricted free agent today is there any team in the league who would pay him $18M/Yr. ? I think not. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 12 minutes ago, EM31 said: Even if he were an unrestricted free agent today is there any team in the league who would pay him $18M/Yr. ? I think not. Guess again the NY Giants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 3 hours ago, slats said: Jamal was unreasonable Advantage Jets / Joe Douglas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 13 hours ago, pointman said: Revis was a DB for the ages. Jamal isn't even the best linebacker in his division. Or on his own TEAM. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 4 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: I get that we hate Jamal and didn't want to pay him, but the whole S/LB thing seems to be THE in thing. We just drafted a few guys to fit that role. If they can do the same cheaply, great. Still, it seems to be a position we are looking to fill. Raiders did the same with Tanner Muse and there were a bunch of guys fitting that mold. Exactly, the bold. The idea is to fill that position cheaply. Not giving up anything close to two 1sts and a 3rd or paying $18 million dollars a year for it. A decent rule of thumb would be Joe Schobert, who Jacksonville signed to fill that role last season. 7 INTs the last 2 seasons, with 13 Pass Deflections, 4.5 sacks and 4 FF's in that span and 80+ solo tackles each season. Salary: About $10.8M per year. That's about the max a team should really be looking to pay for a LB/S hybrid type. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 3 hours ago, slats said: He only has as much leverage as Seattle chooses to give him. If they’re willing to essentially admit their mistake in making that trade by not giving him a stupid contract that would only compound that mistake, then he has no leverage at all. If I’m Seattle, that’s the tack I take with him. His agent can bring up what they traded and Jamal’s sacks, I’ll be talking about his deficiencies in pass coverage. I wouldn’t be offering a deal that made him the highest paid safety, let alone the position busting contract he’s rumored to want. He can play under the fifth year option this year, and then Seattle can tag him for the next two, and they will have paid him significantly less than what he’s looking for, and gotten four total seasons out of him for those picks. They can reasonably sell to their fan base that they did what they could but that Jamal was unreasonable. And in the meantime, he'll shoot his way out of town just like he did in NY. How long will that be worth it? I have to think the best call would be for them to just count their losses and trade him as soon as possible if they're not willing to pay him. An eventual 3rd round compensatory pick, whenever he hits free agency, simply can't be enough to get in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 hour ago, addage said: Seattle puts out the welcome mat for tough, brash players. Jamal certainly is that. He hid under a table during a fight at LSU and has missed 6 games the last 2 seasons with questionable injuries. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 31 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Guess again the NY Giants That is hugely funny. The Giants would not touch him with ten barge poles. He is a me first wannabe highest paid player/safety in football with a history of bad mouthing the organization, shooting his way out of town and not even being adequate at the basics of the position he plays. I doubt the Giants would want that for league minimum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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addage Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 35 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: He hid under a table during a fight at LSU and has missed 6 games the last 2 seasons with questionable injuries. Maybe. Sounds a bit urban legend to me. But I can live with brash only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 59 minutes ago, EM31 said: That is hugely funny. The Giants would not touch him with ten barge poles. He is a me first wannabe highest paid player/safety in football with a history of bad mouthing the organization, shooting his way out of town and not even being adequate at the basics of the position he plays. I doubt the Giants would want that for league minimum. Have you met Joe Judge and Dave Gettleman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 2 hours ago, EM31 said: If he sits out then Seattle gets to play the malcontent not a team player card. It gives THEM cover to walk away from a huge deal. Even if he were an unrestricted free agent today is there any team in the league who would pay him $18M/Yr. ? I think not. Seattle has 0 card to play no matter what Adams does. If Adams sits out, which he will, then seattle would have traded 2 firsts and a 3rd for 10 games of adams. Thats not a card to play. They knew he was a malcontent b4 trading for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreenDover Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 5 hours ago, viffer said: Uh, no. There is nothing going on in Jets land until camp starts at the end of the month. In the meantime, Jamal threads are entertaining. It's never too late to make fun of that clown. If you don't like Jamal threads then why are you posting here? Because I can!!! You clown!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Or on his own TEAM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Crusher Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 58 minutes ago, GangGreenDover said: Because I can!!! You clown!!! At least for now. Name calling can quickly change that status. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 hour ago, addage said: Maybe. Sounds a bit urban legend to me. But I can live with brash only. The tweet from Leonard Fournette has been posted numerous times here and Adams has never denied the story. Nothing urban legend about it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, The Crusher said: At least for now. Name calling can quickly change that status. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: The tweet from Leonard Fournette has been posted numerous times here and Adams has never denied the story. Nothing urban legend about it. Jamal strikes me as the type of guy to hide under furniture where he is plainly visible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said: Seattle has 0 card to play no matter what Adams does. If Adams sits out, which he will, then seattle would have traded 2 firsts and a 3rd for 10 games of adams. Thats not a card to play. They knew he was a malcontent b4 trading for him. They don't get to take back the picks they have already traded. The only question is do they throw good money after bad? I think they are looking for a way out and if he sits out the season then he gives them an excuse (fig leaf) to cover the cut-and-run decision that they may have already made. Ever hear of buyers remorse? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: Have you met Joe Judge and Dave Gettleman. Ask OBJ about Gettleman. Why would you import a turd after you just managed to get rid of one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, EM31 said: Ask OBJ about Gettleman. Why would you import a turd after you just managed to get rid of one? Oh! Oh! I don't know, why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 I think Jerry Jones may be the only person with interest but they don't have nearly enough money for Adams. in any event the bloom is off the rose a bit and even Jones is not going to be a buyer at stratospheric prices. JD sold at the market top and now there is blood in the streets and no buyers to be had. None at all. Turn those machines back on!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Gettleman's shed after OBJ was scraped off the Giants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, EM31 said: Gettleman's shed after OBJ was scraped off the Giants. Looks like the NY Giants WR depth chart since OBJ was traded. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 I was checking on Seahawks boards and some fans even though they still claim to love Adams, some of them are wondering if they could still get a first for him and if that might not be the smartest move. Oh, how the prices have fallen and now that THEY have seen his play up close and personal they seem willing to consider living without it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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