Matt Waldmann Film Review on Breece Hall

[maury77]

I'm not sure if this belongs in the draft forum or not, but this is a 20 minute video breaking down Hall by Matt Waldmann, who IMO is one of the better film guys on the internet. If you don't want to watch the 20 minute video, Waldmann is a very big fan of Hall and thinks he can be a star:

 

[Jimmy 2 Times]

I love watching stuff like this after we draft the player.

[The Crusher]

That’s nice, not a fluff piece. Kids pretty dirty, can’t wait to see him play,,

[maury77]

16 minutes ago, Jimmy 2 Times said:

I love watching stuff like this after we draft the player.

Cool, I’ll put videos up for the other players the Jets selected.

[T0mShane]

42 minutes ago, maury77 said:

I'm not sure if this belongs in the draft forum or not, but this is a 20 minute video breaking down Hall by Matt Waldmann, who IMO is one of the better film guys on the internet. If you don't want to watch the 20 minute video, Waldmann is a very big fan of Hall and thinks he can be a star:

 

Note to all those saying “Hell yeah, this expert loves Breece Hall!”: Waldman hated Zach Wilson. Loathed.

 

https://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2021/04/15/matt-waldmans-rsp-film-room-with-mark-schofield-qb-zach-wilson-byu/l

[Jimmy 2 Times]

18 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Note to all those saying “Hell yeah, this expert loves Breece Hall!”: Waldman hated Zach Wilson. Loathed.

 

https://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2021/04/15/matt-waldmans-rsp-film-room-with-mark-schofield-qb-zach-wilson-byu/l

So he's good at evaluating running backs and horrible at evaluating quarterbacks? 

[Jimmy 2 Times]

Wait, isn't this the guy that loved Hack? 

[Shockwave]

1 hour ago, maury77 said:

I'm not sure if this belongs in the draft forum or not, but this is a 20 minute video breaking down Hall by Matt Waldmann, who IMO is one of the better film guys on the internet. If you don't want to watch the 20 minute video, Waldmann is a very big fan of Hall and thinks he can be a star:

 

Let me just add this one to the thread as well.

Waldman does a great job that should lead into a great conversation with the other two host. However the other 2 just kind kind of killed the conversation. Hall's upside is absolutely tremendous in our system. 

 

 

[maury77]

5 minutes ago, Jimmy 2 Times said:

Wait, isn't this the guy that loved Hack? 

No, that was Brett Kolmann

[FidelioJet]

26 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Note to all those saying “Hell yeah, this expert loves Breece Hall!”: Waldman hated Zach Wilson. Loathed.

 

https://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2021/04/15/matt-waldmans-rsp-film-room-with-mark-schofield-qb-zach-wilson-byu/l

Not every thread has to attack Zach Wilson.

There are plenty of places to attack the NY Jets QB on this forum.  You don't have to do it in a film review of the newly drafted running back.

[Hal N of Provo]

31 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Note to all those saying “Hell yeah, this expert loves Breece Hall!”: Waldman hated Zach Wilson. Loathed.

 

https://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2021/04/15/matt-waldmans-rsp-film-room-with-mark-schofield-qb-zach-wilson-byu/l

Yeah.  Really nitpicked ball placement on 40 yard passes lol 

[jNYC1]

31 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Note to all those saying “Hell yeah, this expert loves Breece Hall!”: Waldman hated Zach Wilson. Loathed.

 

https://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2021/04/15/matt-waldmans-rsp-film-room-with-mark-schofield-qb-zach-wilson-byu/l

His analysis on Zach has proved to be correct to date.  The hope is that Zach continues to improve with a better supporting cast. 

It did seem that Zach chipped away at "some" of the flaws Waldman pointed out before Zach was drafted. 

The fact remains based on current body of work, including a really solid home stretch, Zach has a lot to prove in 2022... more than Mims, Becton, QW, and others that are the focus of less positive fan prognostications.

[thebuzzardman]

39 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Note to all those saying “Hell yeah, this expert loves Breece Hall!”: Waldman hated Zach Wilson. Loathed.

 

https://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2021/04/15/matt-waldmans-rsp-film-room-with-mark-schofield-qb-zach-wilson-byu/l

[jNYC1]

To return focus to Breece, I think Waldman's review is a must watch as it highlights a few skills and traits - particularly around his elusiveness in the hole, which sometimes looks like he is just executing a well blocked play.

[PS17]

41 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Note to all those saying “Hell yeah, this expert loves Breece Hall!”: Waldman hated Zach Wilson. Loathed.

 

https://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2021/04/15/matt-waldmans-rsp-film-room-with-mark-schofield-qb-zach-wilson-byu/l

The shtick is more effective when it’s not forced into every conversation.

[derp]

55 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Note to all those saying “Hell yeah, this expert loves Breece Hall!”: Waldman hated Zach Wilson. Loathed.

 

https://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2021/04/15/matt-waldmans-rsp-film-room-with-mark-schofield-qb-zach-wilson-byu/l

Waldman’s top QB over the last three classes I believe, higher than any of the guys here, higher than Lawrence, is Skylar Thompson from Kansas State - the kid the Dolphins drafted in the seventh round.

[jNYC1]

5 minutes ago, derp said:

Waldman’s top QB over the last three classes I believe, higher than any of the guys here, higher than Lawrence, is Skylar Thompson from Kansas State - the kid the Dolphins drafted in the seventh round.

As someone who has actually purchased Waldman's product I can confirm NOT TRUE.

[T0mShane]

28 minutes ago, jNYC1 said:

His analysis on Zach has proved to be correct to date.  The hope is that Zach continues to improve with a better supporting cast. 

It did seem that Zach chipped away at "some" of the flaws Waldman pointed out before Zach was drafted. 

The fact remains based on current body of work, including a really solid home stretch, Zach has a lot to prove in 2022... more than Mims, Becton, QW, and others that are the focus of less positive fan prognostications.

I heard a really interesting interview with a former GM who was commenting on this class of QB prospects. He cautioned against trying to shoehorn a QB into the program because that QB ends up representing your vision for that program, and if that QB sucks or is a mush, then every other player on your roster infers that you, as the GM, don’t really have a viable plan for building the team, and it poisons the well for your rebuild. The giant red flag on Zach Wilson coming out was that he lacked leadership skills and he wasn’t beloved in his own locker room. I don’t think that’s a thing that you can fix, particularly if you’re not playing well. I think Zach Wilson has some problems in this arena, and I think the evidence for this is how much better the Jets looked whenever a non-Zach QB was playing QB for the Jets. 

[kdels62]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

Note to all those saying “Hell yeah, this expert loves Breece Hall!”: Waldman hated Zach Wilson. Loathed.

 

https://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2021/04/15/matt-waldmans-rsp-film-room-with-mark-schofield-qb-zach-wilson-byu/l

He loved Will Grier

[derp]

12 minutes ago, jNYC1 said:

As someone who has actually purchased Waldman's product I can confirm NOT TRUE.

Not sure what product you’re reading. Page 139 of the pdf, page 123 in the bottom corner.

[Joejet]

11 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I heard a really interesting interview with a former GM who was commenting on this class of QB prospects. He cautioned against trying to shoehorn a QB into the program because that QB ends up representing your vision for that program, and if that QB sucks or is a mush, then every other player on your roster infers that you, as the GM, don’t really have a viable plan for building the team, and it poisons the well for your rebuild. The giant red flag on Zach Wilson coming out was that he lacked leadership skills and he wasn’t beloved in his own locker room. I don’t think that’s a thing that you can fix, particularly if you’re not playing well. I think Zach Wilson has some problems in this arena, and I think the evidence for this is how much better the Jets looked whenever a non-Zach QB was playing QB for the Jets. 

Weren’t you the one that was slurping all over Paxton Lynch a few years ago? If I am correct forgive me if I  don’t buy into your qb analysis.

[maury77]

Guys, we have plenty of time to discuss the Wilson "issue", let's try to stay on topic. 

[Scoop24]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

I heard a really interesting interview with a former GM who was commenting on this class of QB prospects. He cautioned against trying to shoehorn a QB into the program because that QB ends up representing your vision for that program, and if that QB sucks or is a mush, then every other player on your roster infers that you, as the GM, don’t really have a viable plan for building the team, and it poisons the well for your rebuild. The giant red flag on Zach Wilson coming out was that he lacked leadership skills and he wasn’t beloved in his own locker room. I don’t think that’s a thing that you can fix, particularly if you’re not playing well. I think Zach Wilson has some problems in this arena, and I think the evidence for this is how much better the Jets looked whenever a non-Zach QB was playing QB for the Jets. 

Never heard this once.. 

[kdels62]

34 minutes ago, maury77 said:

Guys, we have plenty of time to discuss the Wilson "issue", let's try to stay on topic. 

Can’t tell if I’m pro or anti Zach Wilson anymore. I’m have a split identity problem

 

[Jetsfan80]

2 hours ago, Jimmy 2 Times said:

So he's good at evaluating running backs and horrible at evaluating quarterbacks? 

I wonder what he thought of Josh Allen?

[maury77]

55 minutes ago, kdels62 said:

Can’t tell if I’m pro or anti Zach Wilson anymore. I’m have a split identity problem

 

My feelings in that issue haven’t changed, but I’ve been a miserable SOB here for the last year and I don’t feel like rehashing the topic (for now)

[Gastineau Lives]

2 hours ago, FidelioJet said:

Not every thread has to attack Zach Wilson.

There are plenty of places to attack the NY Jets QB on this forum.  You don't have to do it in a film review of the newly drafted running back.

Its getting kind of tired, I know.

[Gastineau Lives]

Can someone direct me to the Breece Hall thread? I thought it was here but you seem to be having a different kind of orgy in this room.

[kdels62]

2 minutes ago, maury77 said:

My feelings in that issue haven’t changed, but I’ve been a miserable SOB here for the last year and I don’t feel like rehashing the topic (for now)

Lol. I love the guy but I don't ignore new evidence and that is looked at negatively here. 

You'll feel much better this year and then you'll own a black Zach Wilson Jersey. 

[BigRy56]

Hall may enter the season as the front runner for OROY

[32EBoozer]

2 hours ago, T0mShane said:

I heard a really interesting interview with a former GM who was commenting on this class of QB prospects. He cautioned against trying to shoehorn a QB into the program because that QB ends up representing your vision for that program, and if that QB sucks or is a mush, then every other player on your roster infers that you, as the GM, don’t really have a viable plan for building the team, and it poisons the well for your rebuild. The giant red flag on Zach Wilson coming out was that he lacked leadership skills and he wasn’t beloved in his own locker room. I don’t think that’s a thing that you can fix, particularly if you’re not playing well. I think Zach Wilson has some problems in this arena, and I think the evidence for this is how much better the Jets looked whenever a non-Zach QB was playing QB for the Jets. 

I call Bull sh*t! Zach at the Rangers game with teammates, Zach flying all over the country to train with WR group. He’s a 22 year kid…. Once He starts speeding up the mental processing, throwing the ball away, not running backwards and all this bull sh*t stops. 

[maury77]

I think Hall has a strong shot at winning offensive rookie of the year. I can’t remember the last Jet to do that.

[derp]

3 minutes ago, maury77 said:

I think Hall has a strong shot at winning offensive rookie of the year. I can’t remember the last Jet to do that.

Hall and Wilson are 4-5 in odds right now. London, Pickett, Burks, Hall, Wilson.

[JTJet]

3 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Note to all those saying “Hell yeah, this expert loves Breece Hall!”: Waldman hated Zach Wilson. Loathed.

 

https://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2021/04/15/matt-waldmans-rsp-film-room-with-mark-schofield-qb-zach-wilson-byu/l

Good ol @T0mShane

Taking a steaming diarrhea into a brand new glistening toilet bowl. 

Never change. I love it. 

[artemusclyde]

My analysis: Guy has a big forehead, Frank Gore has a big forehead too, so I'm expecting this guy to be great.