Barry McCockinner Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 1 hour ago, slats said: Drafting TEs early is tricky because the position just doesn’t have first round value in general. So when you take a TE (or safety, or RB) early, you’re banking on that player player being elite to justify the pick, whereas the OT/DT/WR/etc. can justify itself with simply solid play. Also, Kelce was drafted in the 3rd and Kittle in the 5th. I don’t know what went on with Ruckert last year, but that’s about as early as I’d generally want to take one. Yea that's why I was pretty specific about elite TE in my comment. I would want to trade down to the mid 20s range if we take a TE. As for ruckert, dude looked like a beast blocking TE late last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Yea that's why I was pretty specific about elite TE in my comment. I would want to trade down to the mid 20s range if we take a TE. As for ruckert, dude looked like a beast blocking TE late last season. I’d love an elite TE, don’t get me wrong here. I just think the science of the NFL draft still struggles with finding, “consistently solid.” I mean, how many first round busts happen every year? Like half? The idea of finding - not only a capable starter, but- an elite prospect at a lesser valued position seems like a pretty risky approach. Even though I don’t love an OT there, I do see it as the much safer pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Still got my pinkies crossed JD trades for Mike Evans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 20 hours ago, JetsFanatic said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtomm Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 25 minutes ago, Larz said: If they get Rodgers and OBJ it’s gonna cost me big time, I might go to 5 or 6 games, I think the most I’ve been to in a season is 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigB Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 37 minutes ago, Larz said: That’s the beauty of having a first ballot HOF QB. That nonsense stops. Still I would rather use that money on free agent safety Bates or Poyer or even a Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, BigB said: Still I would rather use that money on free agent safety Bates or Poyer or even a Center. No those positions are the least important positions on the field other than RB. Need as many weapons as possible for Rodgers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 No those positions are the least important positions on the field other than RB. Need as many weapons as possible for Rodgers Completely disagree ... OT, G, C, LB are all far far more important than Odell.Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Jet Nut said: He sure was productive when he helped get the Rams to the SB with a lot of big catches. 9 for 110+ against the 49rs in the NFCCG and the 2 catches for 50+ yards in the short time on the field in the SB wasn’t nothing. Not $15M per worthy but he could have a place in this offense, he’s not coming to be a #1 I honestly don't expect much from OBJ during the regular season he's a good signing because we are already deep at WR and can afford to sign him to make the QB happy and for a playoff run....Jets fans aren't used to being in win a SB mode it's a never ending 3 year mindset. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 16 minutes ago, BigB said: Still I would rather use that money on free agent safety Bates or Poyer or even a Center. Then why didn’t you just say that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigB Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: No those positions are the least important positions on the field other than RB. Need as many weapons as possible for Rodgers Defense and OL still wins in the playoffs. If Rodgers is so good then Lazard Hardman Wilson Mims or Irvin Charles or Corey Davis and our TEs and RBs should be good enough. If he needs another WR then draft one in 2nd or fourth round. OBJ has not played in a year and always hurt. If on the cheap ok but not more then a 1 yr contract...sorry not a fan of OBJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 1 hour ago, slats said: I understand the need to bolster the OL with high picks from time to time, but my preference is to find the guys who fit the athletic profile that they’re looking for and stockpiling those guys in the middle rounds for development. The Jets currently have those guys plus Mitchell and AVT (although I prefer he stay at guard) as capable OTs. I just don’t see it as the massive need some are making it out to be but, again, understand that in this draft it’s a strong possibility that I’m at peace with. Yeah, I’m with you. I’m at peace with tackle early as I understand they need to add depth and a possible long term starter. That said, adding a guy like Blake Freeland who’s a really good athlete and was good in college in the second round would accomplish adding a little depth and possibly a long term starter too. It is an odd situation where there’s just such an expectation the veterans on the roster get hurt, so I understand why there’s a need for a “third starter” type but I’d also suggest free agency I’d a safer route than the draft there if you’re a win now team. I guess part of that feeling is also how much capital we’ve seen Douglas throw at the OL in terms of draft picks and money and what the return has been. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigB Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 33 minutes ago, Larz said: Then why didn’t you just say that ? Did his nonsense stop when on the Giants or just got worse and worse each game...However I do agreed that Eli is not a HOF in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 17 hours ago, Barkus said: More of a big picture take, ie: trading for 40yr old Aaron Rodgers and paying him 60 million, signing OBJ, etc. The big picture is winning. I'm not sure what the issue is with that. The Jets have been rebuilding for 50 years, it's time to change it up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkus Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, choon328 said: The big picture is winning. I'm not sure what the issue is with that. The Jets have been rebuilding for 50 years, it's time to change it up No issue here, I was just replying to the poster who thinks trading for a 40 yr old Rodgers, paying him 60 million, trading Moore, signing 30yo old OBJ is NOT going all in. ?♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, choon328 said: The big picture is winning. I'm not sure what the issue is with that. The Jets have been rebuilding for 50 years, it's time to change it up I’m fine with winning. Signing washed unstable malcontents to catch passes doesn’t align with winning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Dunnie said: Completely disagree ... OT, G, C, LB are all far far more important than Odell. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk OT they will address with a 1st RD pick. Guard? We have Tomlinson and AVT firmly intrenched. Center well sign some free agent and for LB maybe Kwon comes back. They can most definitely fit Odell in and fill those other positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 OT they will address with a 1st RD pick. Guard? We have Tomlinson and AVT firmly intrenched. Center well sign some free agent and for LB maybe Kwon comes back. They can most definitely fit Odell in and fill those other positions.Odell still lags far behind in importance.Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Matt39 said: I’m fine with winning. Signing washed unstable malcontents to catch passes doesn’t align with winning You're letting your personal feelings get in the way of reality. You're not looking for him to be a #1 WR, probably not even a #2. He's a weapon to keep the defenses honest just like Hardman. Or maybe we can just have Wilson getting double teamed all game instead. But please rely on your assessment of a person who you know nothing about and have never had any interaction with. Just what the media portrays. Classic ? behavior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Word is he’s visiting AZ right after us. Very odd. He could’ve visited them this whole time since he lives there. Why after our visit. Still think we hold an upper hand. But if he’s money chasing we could be out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquilo Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, Bobby816 said: Word is he’s visiting AZ right after us. Very odd. He could’ve visited them this whole time since he lives there. Why after our visit. Still think we hold an upper hand. But if he’s money chasing we could be out. Source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 I’m not a Rodgers fan but a lot of good players are. And like with Brady when he went to the Bucs want to play with him. As for OBJ he was a game changer with the Rams until he got hurt. Based on reporting a good chance Jets can sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammybighead Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Can't believe so many getting riled up over this. He's coming to be our 2nd or 3rd receiver. Last we saw him, he looked like the best offensive player on the field at the superbowl. Relax people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyT Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 5 hours ago, Thai Jet said: Cannot beat the alluring scent of urinal cake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bobby816 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Tranquilo said: Source? Misread a post. Read at a quick glance that he was visiting AZ. When it was in fact saying he met with jets already in AZ. My bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joe Willie White Shoes Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Bullet dodged. OBJ to Baltimore. I’m sure he took the deal because of the $ the Ravens offered. Good riddance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: Man that’s Campbell and OBJ that never even got to the meeting with us. I was a fan of bringing in OBJ with the right deal. But no huge loss here. Especially if we’re keeping Davis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: Bullet dodged. OBJ to Baltimore. I’m sure he took the deal because of the $ the Ravens offered. Good riddance. Good for OBJ. He wasn’t getting that from the Jets. Nice job by his agent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, C Mart said: Good for OBJ. He wasn’t getting that from the Jets. Nice job by his agent. That is absurd. The Ravens just threw away $18 million that could have gone to Jackson. I'm glad it's them and not the Jets. What a horrible signing. He obviously still thinks he's a #1. The Ravens have no top receivers. He wasn't getting close to $18 million from the Jets and he would be a #3 or #4 here, which his ego can't handle. He has his ring, so he's chasing $ not winning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 6 hours ago, undertow said: I honestly don't expect much from OBJ during the regular season he's a good signing because we are already deep at WR and can afford to sign him to make the QB happy and for a playoff run....Jets fans aren't used to being in win a SB mode it's a never ending 3 year mindset. Exactly, and who knows if our current group will all be healthy all year long. Everyone’s so quick to worry about him as a 3rd, what if GW goes down for a few weeks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 47 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: oh well - OBJ break a leg...I mean that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 yeah lets draft a tackle...maybe Hackett can come up with some Jumbo Elliot package for him to get him on the field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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