Lamar got paid 5 years, $260,000,000

[CTJetsFan]

1 minute ago, LockeJET said:

5 years 260 - 185 million guaranteed 

This is what I wanted to see. So 37 million a year deal

[#27TheDominator]

1 minute ago, Larz said:

I know , I know, taxes, agents cut, bonus structures, but some fun with numbers. 
 

$52,000,000 per year 

assuming 18 games a year on average 

$2,888,888 per game 

assuming his average of 25 TDs (both passing and rushing) per year 

$2,080,000 per TD. 

Doesn't he take his own agent's cut? 

[Embrace the Suck]

[Larz]

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[CTJetsFan]

Wonder how much of the guarantee is signing bonus and how much is guaranteed salary/

[Green Ghost]

I’m in too good a mood today to deal with stupid in this thread. 
Carry on with the “he’s just a running back who couldn’t get $300 mil guaranteed”

See ya.

[nycdan]

1 minute ago, CTJetsFan said:

This is what I wanted to see. So 37 million a year deal

No...on paper it's a $52M/year deal.  The $185 is guaranteed no matter what but doesn't reflect what he'll be paid annually.

 

[undertow]

Just now, Green Ghost said:

Highest paid is a huge failure. Hang your head LJ…

I'm so confused. lol  Not sure why people are emotionally  involved in players getting 50 mil a year instead of 45 but I could have sworn the disagreement was the amount of guaranteed years but I can tell you are incapable of having that discussion for whatever reason. lol

[LockeJET]

Now they are talking about going after Hopkins

[jetblue95]

will be interesting to see the details.  i guess i may have been wrong in thinking the hurts contract was his ceiling as at early glimpse, he got slightly more.  if i had the choice, i take hurts over jackson.

[Kelly to Allen no huddle]

9 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

Yeah I’m not going to waste my time arguing with the idiots who say that.

@JiF… you want this?

If anything you should be celebrating. I'm definitely glad the Ravens are this stupid. They just paid a guy a quarter billion dollars and not only has he declined the past three years, he averages like 2500 yards passing a year. 

The most passing yards he's had in one year is 3100.... ( 4 years ago)

Like I said, it's going to be the worst contract in NFL history 

[jetblue95]

4 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

 

 

for any ted lasso fans who may not have known this, this is the same actress as rebecca

[GreenFish]

Lamar Jackson

1) elite running back

2) elite quarterback

3) now he can add elite agent to his resume

 

And he keeps that 5%
 

[T0mShane]

$185 guaranteed is a poverty deal.

[Kelly to Allen no huddle]

7 minutes ago, Larz said:

I know , I know, taxes, agents cut, bonus structures, but some fun with numbers. 
 

$52,000,000 per year 

assuming 18 games a year on average 

$2,888,888 per game 

assuming his average of 25 TDs (both passing and rushing) per year 

$2,080,000 per TD. 

It's honestly a contract written up by someone from the mental asylum 

[nycdan]

Just now, Kelly to Allen no huddle said:

If anything you should be celebrating. I'm definitely glad the Ravens are this stupid. They just paid a guy a quarter billion dollars and not only has he declined the past three years, he averages like 2500 yards passing a year. 

The most passing yards he's had in one year is 3100.... 

Like I said, it's going to be the worst contract in NFL history 

It would be hard pressed to compete with Russ and Deshaun's contracts but maybe...

I'm much happier paying Rodgers for 2 years than Lamar for 5.  I believe Rodgers will be a better QB in both years, but that's just conjecture on my part.  Still, I just don't see the Ravens having enough to beat CIN for the division and they don't seem to be built for playoff success since everything hinges on the health of a QB who has missed the last two Decembers.  Glad it isn't us.

[greenwichjetfan]

Happy for LJ. I said in a previous thread that he deserved better than what was happening to him. Fantastic guy, great football player; being misled by those around him.

I haven't followed closely, but my understanding is that he wanted a fully guaranteed 5 year $250m deal. Looks like either he came to his senses or the vultures around him finally came to theirs, and he accepted what is still a ridiculously lucrative deal.

[CTJetsFan]

4 minutes ago, nycdan said:

No...on paper it's a $52M/year deal.  The $185 is guaranteed no matter what but doesn't reflect what he'll be paid annually.

 

True. Agree, but depending on the structure, anything above 185 could be backloaded and he may never see it.

[batman10023]

3 minutes ago, LockeJET said:

5 years 260 - 185 million guaranteed 

these team always cave as it's too scary to imagine the player sitting out and the impact to the team both in the short run and potentially in the long run.

think about Lamar - they could have made him play (unless he sits out) for $32MM this year and $45-$50MM next year (perhaps even less if they do the non exclusive tag again).  so 2 years $80MM and then he leaves.

the 185MM number just seems so high.  My guess is that's not the fully guaranteed number.  the fully guarantee is probably $115MM.

 

[GreenFish]

12 minutes ago, CTJetsFan said:

This is what I wanted to see. So 37 million a year deal

Depending on the structure, it’s likely more than 37. You have to see when they’re able to cut him. Any non guaranteed money before then is essentially gtd.

[greenwichjetfan]

1 minute ago, batman10023 said:

these team always cave as it's too scary to imagine the player sitting out and the impact to the team both in the short run and potentially in the long run.

think about Lamar - they could have made him play (unless he sits out) for $32MM this year and $45-$50MM next year (perhaps even less if they do the non exclusive tag again).  so 2 years $80MM and then he leaves.

the 185MM number just seems so high.  My guess is that's not the fully guaranteed number.  the fully guarantee is probably $115MM.

 

According to other posts in the thread, 185 is the guaranteed, 85 incentives; total 260.

[Green Ghost]

10 minutes ago, undertow said:

I'm so confused. lol  Not sure why people are emotionally  involved in players getting 50 mil a year instead of 45 but I could have sworn the disagreement was the amount of guaranteed years but I can tell you are incapable of having that discussion for whatever reason. lol

Because I have respect for you, I’ll reply.

How many players (or teams) negotiate a contract without eventually giving and taking a bit… sometimes a lot.

In your mind from where LJ started these talks, do you honestly feel signing a 5 year 260 mil deal with $185 guaranteed is a bad deal for him? 
I don’t, because I believe the way the NFL works, and where he was contractually, they would never allow him to get one that was fully guaranteed.

[Kelly to Allen no huddle]

I will say on a human level I'm very happy for him and his family. Coming from limited means like many of us it's gotta be a great day for him. 

[Stark]

22 minutes ago, JiF said:

That ship sailed long ago, now I wait in vain for Aaron Rodgers to break my soul. 

Torn Achilles preseason week 4?!?!  Lol. Wtf kind of comment is this? 
 Come on G. It’s our time now. LFG

[Warfish]

31 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

Well I, for one, am shocked that you jagaloons were wrong on this one. Shocked I tell you.

What were we wrong about?

The Jets had no interest, the rest of the NFL had no interest, only the Ravens did. 

And he got the 5-year, $250M+ contract he was demanding, he just didn't get 100% guaranteed (only about 70% of it).

Pretty much what most of us thought all along.

I guess the Ravens weren't in on the collusion then too.

The next five years will determine the "is he worth that price" question, where most of us could in fact be proven wrong and guys like JiF could be proven right, if he's a stud all 5 years and stays healthy.

[Kelly to Allen no huddle]

12 minutes ago, undertow said:

I'm so confused. lol  Not sure why people are emotionally  involved in players getting 50 mil a year instead of 45 but I could have sworn the disagreement was the amount of guaranteed years but I can tell you are incapable of having that discussion for whatever reason. lol

Nobody is truly emotional here. It's not real life. A lot of people think he's not worth the contract... The past five years have seen qbs get ridiculous contracts that are obviously regretted 

[hawk]

I'm happy for him.  I hope the chronic hang nail will not be career ending. 

[BurnleyJet]

Seems a little expensive for a Running back.

[bicketybam]

Yeah I’m not going to waste my time arguing with the idiots who say that.
[mention=8521]JiF[/mention]… you want this?

Using the Fidelo method, he's not as good as Daniel Jones, Ryan Tannehill, Andy Dalton or even Geno Smith.

[Waka Flocka Flacco]

9 minutes ago, batman10023 said:

looks like he did fine without an agent.

He missed out on 41 million dollars cash in 2021 and 2022 trying to get a fully-guaranteed contract.

He wound up with traditional quarterback structure.

That is an unqualified disaster. Calling it anything else is ludicrous, and calling it 'did fine' is patronizing to boot.

[undertow]

Just now, Green Ghost said:

Because I have respect for you, I’ll reply.

How many players (or teams) negotiate a contract without eventually giving and taking a bit… sometimes a lot.

In your mind from where LJ started these talks, do you honestly feel signing a 5 year 260 mil deal with $185 guaranteed is a bad deal for him? 
I don’t, because I believe the way the NFL works, they would never allow him to get one that was fully guaranteed.

I'm not emotional invested in a contract depute between Jackson and The Ravens I thought the dispute was about a fully guaranteed contract over 5 years which Watson got 5 yrs 230 mil which if Jackson got would completely change the pay structure of the league.....that didn't happen Jackson got the same deal as Hurts....I could care less about who "owned" who I am just interested in these QBs pay structures going forward and that hasn't changed Watsons contract was a one off.

[Green Ghost]

9 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said:

According to other posts in the thread, 185 is the guaranteed, 85 incentives; total 260.

Can’t wait to see what those incentives are. Sounds like some face saving might be going on here?

[GreenFish]

12 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

Because I have respect for you, I’ll reply.

How many players (or teams) negotiate a contract without eventually giving and taking a bit… sometimes a lot.

In your mind from where LJ started these talks, do you honestly feel signing a 5 year 260 mil deal with $185 guaranteed is a bad deal for him? 
I don’t, because I believe the way the NFL works, they would never allow him to get one that was fully guaranteed.

To piggy back off this, here’s where both sides started this offseason

1) Ravens: 3 years $133M fully gtd

2) Lamar: 5 years $250M fully gtd

 

Where they ended. 5 years 260M with $185M fully gtd.

They essentially met in the middle. And a better deal than Hurts got. Both sides gave in.

[Scott Dierking]

5 minutes ago, Warfish said:

What were we wrong about?

The Jets had no interest, the rest of the NFL had no interest, only the Ravens did. 

And he got the 5-year, $250M+ contract he was demanding, he just didn't get 100% guaranteed (only about 70% of it).

Pretty much what most of us thought all along.

I guess the Ravens weren't in on the collusion then too.

The next five years will determine the "is he worth that price" question, where most of us could in fact be proven wrong and guys like JiF could be proven right, if he's a stud all 5 years and stays healthy.

You had tried to intimate that others were portraying supposed collusion as a racial factor. Which was not accurate at all. 

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

25 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

Highest paid is a huge failure. Hang your head LJ…

He won't be "highest paid" for very long.  Herbert and Burrow are still waiting for their deals.

And what choice did they have?

Roll with Huntley?  Trade their entire draft for the right to select Anthony Richardson and then hope in 3 years, he's half as good as Lamar is right now?