Popular Post hmhertz Posted November 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2023 Mitchell & Clemons. I think MM is potentially the best OL on the team. The way he coordinates his arms with his feet. Moving him around so much is a disservice to him and the Jets. Let him regain his strength and stay at RT and develop. Clemons played with the speed and effort he showed last year, maybe he added too much weight too fast 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nixhead Posted November 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2023 Well Clemons needed to pounce on that fumble last week not try the scoop and score move but in Clemons defense it might be the only way for the Jets to score a TD so I’m gonna give him some slack. But next time secure the ball first or we are gonna have words!🥶🥶🥶 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bitonti Posted November 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2023 Clemons had a good game but he got absolutely blown up by a wide out run blocking. He's easy to fool, too aggressive 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JETS SB Posted November 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2023 Was very impressed with Mitchell this past Sunday. Watching the all 22, he was often on Maxx Crosby, sometimes 1 on 1 and sometimes double teamed but it was impressive, the fact they neutralized him. Uzomah held him several times and was called for it, a few times, but overall Mitchell was outstanding. If we do end up signing Becton to a contract or pick up his 5th year option, and get Vera-Tucker back, adding in Tippmann, this is the makings of a halfway decent O-line. I will say, though, Zach Wilson being able to scramble out of some of those apparent sacks, might not happen with Aaron Rodgers at QB. (The ball will likely be out of his hand, before he needs to 😂) 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 3 hours ago, hmhertz said: Mitchell & Clemons. I think MM is potentially the best OL on the team. The way he coordinates his arms with his feet. Moving him around so much is a disservice to him and the Jets. Let him regain his strength and stay at RT and develop. Clemons played with the speed and effort he showed last year, maybe he added too much weight too fast Great post! Clemons is a nice surprise on a deep defensive line. This year seems to be a bit down for him compared to last year, so hopefully your observation is a good thing to come for him. If they end the year knowing Mitchell is next years Right Tackle that is great news. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Clemons is a JAG and a stiff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 5 hours ago, bitonti said: Clemons had a good game but he got absolutely blown up by a wide out run blocking. He's easy to fool, too aggressive All muscles, no brains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted November 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2023 7 hours ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: Clemons is a JAG and a stiff. Said 30 miles away from him ;). I remember calling a childhood bully a fat piece of sh*t, and was terrified when I quickly learned how fast he was as I tried to run away 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 I think Mitchell really hit his stride last season and then got hurt, and it took him sometime to get back into a groove this season as he's had his ups and downs but the OP is correct in that Mitchell had a really good game (especially considering who he was going up against). Let's hope he can continue to improve and develop. I don't expect playoffs so my biggest interest lies in the hope that we can solidify some positions going into 2024, or at the very least feel good enough about some players so we don't have to go free agent crazy and possible draft some depth pieces to support certain positions (i.e. Center, RT, RB #2, TE) If we can feel about about: Starting Mitchell at RT next year and drafting a mid round guy to compete Izzy as the #2 back Ruckert as the #1 TE Tippmann as the starting Center Then I think we can focus big $ free agency and high round draft picks on a LT and WR, and use mid round picks for RG, RT, IDL, 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 7 hours ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: Clemons is a JAG and a stiff. True. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 20 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: I think Mitchell really hit his stride last season and then got hurt, and it took him sometime to get back into a groove this season as he's had his ups and downs but the OP is correct in that Mitchell had a really good game (especially considering who he was going up against). Let's hope he can continue to improve and develop. I don't expect playoffs so my biggest interest lies in the hope that we can solidify some positions going into 2024, or at the very least feel good enough about some players so we don't have to go free agent crazy and possible draft some depth pieces to support certain positions (i.e. Center, RT, RB #2, TE) If we can feel about about: Starting Mitchell at RT next year and drafting a mid round guy to compete Izzy as the #2 back Ruckert as the #1 TE Tippmann as the starting Center Then I think we can focus big $ free agency and high round draft picks on a LT and WR, and use mid round picks for RG, RT, IDL, The scouting on Mitchell was that he had good feet but needed to bulk up. But he’s a good 4th rounder, if he can be a swing tackle. Have to wonder at some point if there’s a disconnect between douglas’ picks and saleh’s willingness to use these guys. It’s not a good look for saleh if Izzy has a good game this Sunday. Play your best guys regardless of contract or draft status. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PepPep Posted November 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2023 8 hours ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: Clemons is a JAG and a stiff. 4 hours ago, Bronx said: All muscles, no brains. 18 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: True. I think one ting we've learned from this team is that developmental D-line players (especially guys taken later on in the draft) need extra time to develop as they do not get much playing time due to the depth of the D-line and constant rotation (even when injuries give them opportunities to play). Clemons is in his SECOND season in the NFL. What I am hearing is that he is a 'dumb' player, a JAG, a 'STIFF' because he has made some mistakes on the field and has not developed into his own with the very limited reps that he gets on the field. I would bring up JJ as an example of a guy Jets fans ragged on right away when he didn't show immediate results, who is now having a breakout season in only his second year- but I've realized its useless to get it through their thick skulls. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post #27TheDominator Posted November 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2023 Clemons is a fine rotational piece. Versatile enough to play inside or outside in this front. He was a 4th, not a 1st. He replaced Nathan Shepherd nicely and cheaply. He plays specials and is fair or better at it. He seems to have a good attitude and is probably a good influence in the weight room. Did you guys expect him to be JJ Watt because he is built? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankiepapa Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Clemons had a good game but he got absolutely blown up by a wide out run blocking. He's easy to fool, too aggressive From what I've read, that should really be an illegal blindside blockSent from my SM-S908U using Tapatalk 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, PepPep said: I think one ting we've learned from this team is that developmental D-line players (especially guys taken later on in the draft) need extra time to develop as they do not get much playing time due to the depth of the D-line and constant rotation (even when injuries give them opportunities to play). Clemons is in his SECOND season in the NFL. What I am hearing is that he is a 'dumb' player, a JAG, a 'STIFF' because he has made some mistakes on the field and has not developed into his own with the very limited reps that he gets on the field. I would bring up JJ as an example of a guy Jets fans ragged on right away when he didn't show immediate results, who is now having a breakout season in only his second year- but I've realized its useless to get it through their thick skulls. His intelect is well noted during interviews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 I think all y'all are way overrating Mitchell right now. He's mostly been awful this year. It seems he had an okay game last week but he has a long way to go to get to a trustworthy starting caliber NFL Tackle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jago Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 11 hours ago, bitonti said: Clemons had a good game but he got absolutely blown up by a wide out run blocking. He's easy to fool, too aggressive i referred to it as him getting Leroy Brown'd by that wr. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonkertons Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Yeah not gonna lie seeing a dude as big and imposing as Clemons get demolished by a WR was a little disappointing to say the least. Blind side, unexpected, I get it....but still. ..but yeah, Mitchell has looked really good. Him cementing that RT spot as his own would make our lives so much easier next offseason, and open up that 1st rounder to take one of those stud WRs. Let's hope he continues to play well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 If only this lead to wins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 38 minutes ago, Bronx said: His intelect is well noted during interviews. What the F are you talking about? Evidence? Proof? He's a football player. A second year DE. Exactly what are you expecting him to say in interviews that is supposed to intellectually blow your mind? If you are going to slander the intellect of a player you better come with some proof. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 hour ago, FidelioJet said: I think all y'all are way overrating Mitchell right now. He's mostly been awful this year. It seems he had an okay game last week but he has a long way to go to get to a trustworthy starting caliber NFL Tackle. He hasn't had a great year overall that's for sure but it's criminal to say he "It seems he had an okay game last week." He had a great game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeFan Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 12 hours ago, JETS SB said: Was very impressed with Mitchell this past Sunday. Watching the all 22, he was often on Maxx Crosby, sometimes 1 on 1 and sometimes double teamed but it was impressive, the fact they neutralized him. Uzomah held him several times and was called for it, a few times, but overall Mitchell was outstanding. If we do end up signing Becton to a contract or pick up his 5th year option, and get Vera-Tucker back, adding in Tippmann, this is the makings of a halfway decent O-line. I will say, though, Zach Wilson being able to scramble out of some of those apparent sacks, might not happen with Aaron Rodgers at QB. (The ball will likely be out of his hand, before he needs to 😂) Just wondering where you access the all-22? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 15 hours ago, hmhertz said: Clemons played with the speed and effort he showed last year, Imagine if he brings his bat to Buffalo ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 2 hours ago, PepPep said: What the F are you talking about? Evidence? Proof? He's a football player. A second year DE. Exactly what are you expecting him to say in interviews that is supposed to intellectually blow your mind? If you are going to slander the intellect of a player you better come with some proof. He is a jarhead, a hard-working jarhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 15 hours ago, bitonti said: Clemons had a good game but he got absolutely blown up by a wide out run blocking. He's easy to fool, too aggressive I blew up at least two guys that were supposed to be all-city and a guy who was briefly on an NFL roster like that. I weighed 165 lbs. It happens to everybody. If you haven't been lit up like that you weren't trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JiFtheOracle Posted November 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2023 4 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: Clemons is a fine rotational piece. Versatile enough to play inside or outside in this front. He was a 4th, not a 1st. He replaced Nathan Shepherd nicely and cheaply. He plays specials and is fair or better at it. He seems to have a good attitude and is probably a good influence in the weight room. Did you guys expect him to be JJ Watt because he is built? He walked in shirtless w/ a Neegan bat on the first day of camp, so yes, I did expect him to be the greatest Football player who has ever lived. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Bronx said: He is a jarhead, a hard-working jarhead. Great, well thought out, clearly stated evidence. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 It’s not possibleBecause I was told that JD can’t draft because his guys aren’t on the field yet this year. It’s almost like they have player development and a pipeline for the future Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 His intelect is well noted during interviews. I think he’s thoughtful and well spoken. He doesn’t just blurt out answers when asked, he takes a moment to think. I don’t think he’s a slow processor. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 16 hours ago, bitonti said: Clemons had a good game but he got absolutely blown up by a wide out run blocking. He's easy to fool, too aggressive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 hour ago, PepPep said: Great, well thought out, clearly stated evidence. Okay, I think that he is a genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 30 minutes ago, Bronx said: Okay, I think that he is a genius. Great retort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsfaninNorthHollywood Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 20 hours ago, hmhertz said: Mitchell & Clemons. I think MM is potentially the best OL on the team. The way he coordinates his arms with his feet. Moving him around so much is a disservice to him and the Jets. Let him regain his strength and stay at RT and develop. Clemons played with the speed and effort he showed last year, maybe he added too much weight too fast You mentioned his arms and feet coordination. How many of these guys have used a boxing coach to work on that? I mean it would make sense, balance and footwork, but then again...I'm a mere auto claims adjuster in the grand scheme of things, so what do I know lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmhertz Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 8 hours ago, bonkertons said: Yeah not gonna lie seeing a dude as big and imposing as Clemons get demolished by a WR was a little disappointing to say the least. Blind side, unexpected, I get it....but still. ..but yeah, Mitchell has looked really good. Him cementing that RT spot as his own would make our lives so much easier next offseason, and open up that 1st rounder to take one of those stud WRs. Let's hope he continues to play well. WR is the way to go, it's a great class even compared to recent fine to excellent classes. Adams age is at a point when they start to fall apart. Don't want to experience the Rodgers' experience again. For my money our first two picks should be spent on QB or WR in either order. From his limited playing time Carter Warren looks promising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 22 hours ago, hmhertz said: Mitchell & Clemons. I think MM is potentially the best OL on the team. The way he coordinates his arms with his feet. Moving him around so much is a disservice to him and the Jets. Let him regain his strength and stay at RT and develop. Clemons played with the speed and effort he showed last year, maybe he added too much weight too fast Worst Haiku ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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