Rich Thornburgh Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Watching the games yesterday. The Steelers looked good with Rudolph who was 3rd on their depth chart and the Chargers lost but played competitively with Easton Stick (sounds like a bat) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Watching the games yesterday. The Steelers looked good with Rudolph who was 3rd on their depth chart and the Chargers lost but played competitively with Easton Stick (sounds like a bat)Yet Cincy looked dreadful with Jake Browning, their own backup QB. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Larz Posted December 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2023 Oline this isn’t difficult 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Rich Thornburgh said: Watching the games yesterday. The Steelers looked good with Rudolph who was 3rd on their depth chart and the Chargers lost but played competitively with Easton Stick (sounds like a bat) I was thinking an arrow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted December 24, 2023 Author Share Posted December 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Larz said: Oline this isn’t difficult Zach would still suck with the Lions Oline 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Had Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Rich Thornburgh said: Zach would still suck with the Lions Oline The Lions HC is an ex OL coach...coaching matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted December 24, 2023 Author Share Posted December 24, 2023 Just now, Ben Had said: The Lions HC is an ex OL coach...coaching matters. Having QBs that don’t completely suck bawls also matters 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustInFudge Posted December 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2023 2 hours ago, jamesr said: Yet Cincy looked dreadful with Jake Browning, their own backup QB. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk They are 3-2 w/ the back up QB and has accounted for 10 TD's. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 They are 3-2 w/ the back up QB and has accounted for 10 TD's. Ruining their draft position in the process. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 To answer the question though, this coaching staff sucks ball. Thats why. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 OL and coaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JetsFanatic Posted December 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2023 The difference is over the course of 17 games a second string QB will show all his warts. If Rodgers just missed the Jets first 7 games he would have come back to a 4-3 record, which would have been ok. Unfortunately when the starter is out for the whole season, it usually dooms the season. 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: The difference is over the course of 17 games a second string QB will show all his warts. If Rodgers just missed the Jets first 7 games he would have come back to a 4-3 record, which would have been ok. Unfortunately when the starter is out for the whole season, it usually dooms the season. There is a reason why there are only 32 starting QB's in the league, and of those 32, there is only a dozen who can really take you to a Super Bowl, unless one of the other 20 happens to get hot for a few weeks at the right time (Nick Foles anyone?) Toss in that we have had about 13 different players play on the OLine this year, and it doesn't take long to figure out why we suck. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Larz said: Oline this isn’t difficult It goes beyond the OL. The skill group has two, maybe three guys who are average or better NFL starters. Call it two above average (Wilson, Hall) and one average (Conklin). The offense is pretty devoid of talent, certainly not one with the caliber of players that can lift up a backup QB. The plan this year was for a 40 year old future Hall of Famer to elevate a seriously flawed group that they just have not done a good job putting together. They can and should fix backup QB this offseason but the problems on offense definitely run deeper than just who’s under center. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 4 hours ago, Rich Thornburgh said: Watching the games yesterday. The Steelers looked good with Rudolph who was 3rd on their depth chart and the Chargers lost but played competitively with Easton Stick (sounds like a bat) Are they really ? You might get a spark for a week or two but it really hasn’t been sustainable. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, derp said: It goes beyond the OL. The skill group has two, maybe three guys who are average or better NFL starters. Call it two above average (Wilson, Hall) and one average (Conklin). The offense is pretty devoid of talent, certainly not one with the caliber of players that can lift up a backup QB. The plan this year was for a 40 year old future Hall of Famer to elevate a seriously flawed group that they just have not done a good job putting together. They can and should fix backup QB this offseason but the problems on offense definitely run deeper than just who’s under center. This IDK how anyone believes JD can fix this in one offseason. We are in the conference with all the young QBs who teams will also make improvements A rookie LT and a 40 year old on one leg isn’t enough and add a JD free agency / draft and this is an obvious implosion waiting to happen 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Also, how come it's some other team's backup QB who is able to rake in all that sweet, sweet endorsement money? Timmy Cutlets has put on a masterclass, and he did so in-season, no less! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 O-line offensive coordinator ALL our QB’s suck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Huh good question and quite the mystery. Let’s fire up the old stats machine and sort QBs by success rate, which measures how effective they are on a play per play basis at moving the ball toward first downs and TDs. Here is 2023 hmmmmm seems bad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Maybe we can look at 2022 surely the backup QB was more effective then hmmmm no? Oh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Well let‘s look at 2021 oh no 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Ben Had said: The Lions HC is an ex OL coach...coaching matters. Saleh got told to get lost after interviewing with the lions lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 5 hours ago, Rich Thornburgh said: Watching the games yesterday. The Steelers looked good with Rudolph who was 3rd on their depth chart and the Chargers lost but played competitively with Easton Stick (sounds like a bat) Because they call the good plays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Maybe we can look at 2022 surely the backup QB was more effective then hmmmm no? Oh. Good for Baker! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 hour ago, JustInFudge said: To answer the question though, this coaching staff sucks ball. Thats why. 1 hour ago, GreenFish said: OL and coaching. Our GM picks coaches and O line like @CTM attends to his personal hygiene. Very stinky! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 4 hours ago, jamesr said: Yet Cincy looked dreadful with Jake Browning, their own backup QB. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Dreadful? Yes Browning didnt play well but he threw for 335 yards which would be get a Jets QB inducted into the ring of honor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBJ Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Woody Johnson, Joe Douglas, Robert Saleh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Backups look good in spurts then flame out. It’s happened pretty much across the board all season, that’s why they’re backups 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Rich Thornburgh said: Zach would still suck with the Lions Oline Apparently it is difficult for some. Try watching with your eyes open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 4 hours ago, Larz said: Oline this isn’t difficult 100% The Jets also only having 1 viable WR makes things tougher as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Because Zach was intentionally left on the roster by the owner and the Jets weren’t allowed to bring in anyone who could surpass him on the depth chart. Everyone also knew Zach couldn’t play, but again we have an owner who likes to tinker and meddle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 38 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Well let‘s look at 2021 oh no Best one of all b/c it has darnold as well. This is not some Kennedy conspiracy, this is occum’s razor. Really bad qbs mean really bad offenses. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Just now, Matt39 said: Because Zach was intentionally left on the roster by the owner and the Jets weren’t allowed to bring in anyone who could surpass him on the depth chart. Everyone also knew Zach couldn’t play, but again we have an owner who likes to tinker and meddle. The owner refused to believe that wilson sucked as bad as he did, yet, he went along with douglas’ plan to trade (by the plan) a 2nd and a 1st rounder for Aaron rodgers. In hindsight, IMO the deal that douglas cut with woody was, look, we’ll trade all these premium picks for rodgers with the hope he gets us over the hump, but to appease you woody, we’ll keep Wilson and rodgers will tutor him and say nice things about him so Wilson’s family doesn’t flip out when rodgers comes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 4 hours ago, Larz said: Oline this isn’t difficult Well, for our GM Joe Douglas it's very difficult. Can't wait to spend all off-season reading about which OL the Joe Douglas is going to draft or sign in free agency. Exciting times indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Remember when Boyle was going to prove that the problem was Zach? then Seimian ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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