PFF FA rankings

[hmhertz]

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2024-free-agent-rankings-free-agency

[ChewyandtheJets]

Lots of defensive players.   Not a lot of offensive linemen… Bad. 

[Sonny Werblin]

92. Jon Runyan G - friend of AR8

91. Gardner Minshew QB - did he really sign a 1 year contract. Let's not make the same mistake twice. Get Gardner in the building.

[chirorob]

2 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said:

92. Jon Runyan G - friend of AR8

91. Gardner Minshew QB - did he really sign a 1 year contract. Let's not make the same mistake twice. Get Gardner in the building.

Gardner is going to get way more money this time 

[redlichtie]

The really really top FA’s never usually make it onto the open market ….you have to draft well to be successful, hoping you can rebuild your OL with a couple of all-pro FA’s ain’t happening 

[redlichtie]

I’m also really looking forward to actually signing Antoine Winfield this time!

[32EBoozer]

18. EDGE BRYCE HUFF, NEW YORK JETS

Huff set out to prove that his absurd pass-rushing efficiency in 2022 wasn’t an aberration, and he’s done just that in 2023 with a crazy high pass-rush win rate once again. Still, there’s a reason the team that developed the former undrafted free agent and sees him every day doesn’t like to deploy him against the run and hasn’t made much of an effort on an extension. This will be a nuanced negotiation for a designated pass rusher type — fortunately, that’s the richest facet to excel in for an edge defender.

Former Baltimore Raven and Chicago Bearspass-rush specialist Pernell McPhee comes to mind as a comparable player, as does Huff’s current teammate Carl Lawson.

Top free agent comparison: Carl Lawson, 2021

**2021 salary cap of $182.5 million, dropped due to the pandemic

Contract Projection: Three years, $40 million ($13.33 million per year), $28 million total guaranteed

 

Not as much as I think he would get.

[Joe W. Namath]

Plenty of good tackles, guards and receivers.  We will be backing up the brinks truck jet fans.  Get ready!!!

[Jetsfan80]

3 hours ago, chirorob said:

Gardner is going to get way more money this time 

And we should be the ones to pay it.  No more d**king around at the QB2 spot. 

[Joe W. Namath]

7 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said:

18. EDGE BRYCE HUFF, NEW YORK JETS

Huff set out to prove that his absurd pass-rushing efficiency in 2022 wasn’t an aberration, and he’s done just that in 2023 with a crazy high pass-rush win rate once again. Still, there’s a reason the team that developed the former undrafted free agent and sees him every day doesn’t like to deploy him against the run and hasn’t made much of an effort on an extension. This will be a nuanced negotiation for a designated pass rusher type — fortunately, that’s the richest facet to excel in for an edge defender.

Former Baltimore Raven and Chicago Bearspass-rush specialist Pernell McPhee comes to mind as a comparable player, as does Huff’s current teammate Carl Lawson.

Top free agent comparison: Carl Lawson, 2021

**2021 salary cap of $182.5 million, dropped due to the pandemic

Contract Projection: Three years, $40 million ($13.33 million per year), $28 million total guaranteed

 

Not as much as I think he would get.

Hes a one trick pony.  A 9 sack guy.  No one is going to overpay for that.

[Joe W. Namath]

2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

And we should be the ones to pay it.  No more d**king around at the QB2 spot. 

QB2 is worthless.  If ur starting gets hurt, ur season is over.  Jet fans still wasting time on things that dont matter.

[jeremy2020]

2 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Hes a one trick pony.  A 9 sack guy.  No one is going to overpay for that.

You're not even funny anymore. You have to be believable to be really funny with it and you've lost that. Time for a new account and new schtick. Everyone is just tired of this one at this point.

[GreenFish]

30 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said:

18. EDGE BRYCE HUFF, NEW YORK JETS

Huff set out to prove that his absurd pass-rushing efficiency in 2022 wasn’t an aberration, and he’s done just that in 2023 with a crazy high pass-rush win rate once again. Still, there’s a reason the team that developed the former undrafted free agent and sees him every day doesn’t like to deploy him against the run and hasn’t made much of an effort on an extension. This will be a nuanced negotiation for a designated pass rusher type — fortunately, that’s the richest facet to excel in for an edge defender.

Former Baltimore Raven and Chicago Bearspass-rush specialist Pernell McPhee comes to mind as a comparable player, as does Huff’s current teammate Carl Lawson.

Top free agent comparison: Carl Lawson, 2021

**2021 salary cap of $182.5 million, dropped due to the pandemic

Contract Projection: Three years, $40 million ($13.33 million per year), $28 million total guaranteed

 

Not as much as I think he would get.

Should be interesting to follow. I think PFF is about right.

Last year, Ngakoue, a pass rush specialist coming off 9.5 sacks got 1/10.5. And Ngakoue is more accomplished while still being young (27 at the time)

He was the best comp i was able to find from last year’s class.

[bla bla bla]

35 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said:

18. EDGE BRYCE HUFF, NEW YORK JETS

Huff set out to prove that his absurd pass-rushing efficiency in 2022 wasn’t an aberration, and he’s done just that in 2023 with a crazy high pass-rush win rate once again. Still, there’s a reason the team that developed the former undrafted free agent and sees him every day doesn’t like to deploy him against the run and hasn’t made much of an effort on an extension. This will be a nuanced negotiation for a designated pass rusher type — fortunately, that’s the richest facet to excel in for an edge defender.

Former Baltimore Raven and Chicago Bearspass-rush specialist Pernell McPhee comes to mind as a comparable player, as does Huff’s current teammate Carl Lawson.

Top free agent comparison: Carl Lawson, 2021

**2021 salary cap of $182.5 million, dropped due to the pandemic

Contract Projection: Three years, $40 million ($13.33 million per year), $28 million total guaranteed

 

Not as much as I think he would get.

Unfortunately I don't know if this is a deal that gets done with the Jets. This feels like a tag and trade or and outright walk in FA. I don't see Huff loving us hitting him with the 2nd round tender and drafting his replacement last offseason.

[jetstream23]

2 hours ago, 32EBoozer said:

18. EDGE BRYCE HUFF, NEW YORK JETS

Huff set out to prove that his absurd pass-rushing efficiency in 2022 wasn’t an aberration, and he’s done just that in 2023 with a crazy high pass-rush win rate once again. Still, there’s a reason the team that developed the former undrafted free agent and sees him every day doesn’t like to deploy him against the run and hasn’t made much of an effort on an extension. This will be a nuanced negotiation for a designated pass rusher type — fortunately, that’s the richest facet to excel in for an edge defender.

Former Baltimore Raven and Chicago Bearspass-rush specialist Pernell McPhee comes to mind as a comparable player, as does Huff’s current teammate Carl Lawson.

Top free agent comparison: Carl Lawson, 2021

**2021 salary cap of $182.5 million, dropped due to the pandemic

Contract Projection: Three years, $40 million ($13.33 million per year), $28 million total guaranteed

 

Not as much as I think he would get.

Despite how good he has been Huff is still not considered an every-down player.  Not that he's a liability vs the run, but he would be targeted in the running game.  $13.3M per year for a guy who really only gets on the field for 2nd and long, 3rd and long is a bit of a luxury.

Huff and Lawson are the reasons Will McDonald was drafted a year before he's needed.  If Huff doesn't come back then the Jets would likely look at DE's of Jermaine Johnson, JFM, McDonald, Clemons, and probably a mid-tier FA.

[32EBoozer]

1 hour ago, GreenFish said:

Should be interesting to follow. I think PFF is about right.

Last year, Ngakoue, a pass rush specialist coming off 9.5 sacks got 1/10.5. And Ngakoue is more accomplished while still being young (27 at the time)

He was the best comp i was able to find from last year’s class.

Nice work. Thanks 

[Jetsfan80]

1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said:

QB2 is worthless.  If ur starting gets hurt, ur season is over.  Jet fans still wasting time on things that dont matter.

We would have won the division title with Minshew.  Go away.  

[varjet]

21 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

Despite how good he has been Huff is still not considered an every-down player.  Not that he's a liability vs the run, but he would be targeted in the running game.  $13.3M per year for a guy who really only gets on the field for 2nd and long, 3rd and long is a bit of a luxury.

Huff and Lawson are the reasons Will McDonald was drafted a year before he's needed.  If Huff doesn't come back then the Jets would likely look at DE's of Jermaine Johnson, JFM, McDonald, Clemons, and a probably a mid-tier FA.

That is a pretty good DE room if McD gains weight, which he definitely will.

Huff is yielding a low 3rd round comp pick likely if he signs somewhere else.  Is someone trading more for that to pay him?

[Joe W. Namath]

40 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

We would have won the division title with Minshew.  Go away.  

Minshew, a qb who has never won anything, would have won the AFC East.

That is laughable.

[bitonti]

40 minutes ago, varjet said:

Huff is yielding a low 3rd round comp pick likely

This is excellent long term thinking but will Joe Douglas even be here in 25 to use the comp pick? He's not under contract that far out and neither is Saleh 

Personally it's a open and shut case

It's a mistake to let Huff go and they are definitely going to make that mistake 

[GreenFish]

1 hour ago, varjet said:

That is a pretty good DE room if McD gains weight, which he definitely will.

Huff is yielding a low 3rd round comp pick likely if he signs somewhere else.  Is someone trading more for that to pay him?

Agree. It’s a good edge room. With a lot of diversity in skillset.

We will need to be active in free agency though. So not sure we will get a comp pick. Say we get an OT, G and a WR (possibly Mike Evans), the Huff loss likely wont net us a comp pick.

Not sure though.

[oatmeal]

13 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

QB2 is worthless.  If ur starting gets hurt, ur season is over.  Jet fans still wasting time on things that dont matter.

He’s right,

all the teams running with backups will not be in the superbowl and if you not playing in the big game the season is a wash idc what anyone says 

[Sammybighead]

13 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Plenty of good tackles, guards and receivers.  We will be backing up the brinks truck jet fans.  Get ready!!!

Ummm what good tackles?

[GangGreened]

15 minutes ago, oatmeal said:

He’s right,

all the teams running with backups will not be in the superbowl and if you not playing in the big game the season is a wash idc what anyone says 

Nick Foles? Probably the exception.

Still, you want a good QB2 in case your starter goes down for a handful of games. Not every injury is a season ender. Joe W is just trying to carry on his dying act.

[Sonny Werblin]

14 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

QB2 is worthless.  If ur starting gets hurt, ur season is over.  Jet fans still wasting time on things that dont matter.

Kurt Warner, Tom Brady, Jim Plunkett, Jeff Hostettler, Nick Foles and Earl Morrall all won the SB after taking over for the starter injured during the season.

[Joe W. Namath]

48 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said:

Kurt Warner, Tom Brady, Jim Plunkett, Jeff Hostettler, Nick Foles and Earl Morrall all won the SB after taking over for the starter injured during the season.

Great!  Maybe Brett Rypien will do that for us next year.

Now lets focus on what really matters like oline and receiver.

[bonkertons]

If Becton only costs 7 or 8 for 1 year I would 100% bring him back at RT.  Let him get the full training camp there with the 1st team, and NEVER move him out of that spot.  If our LT goes down, whoever that may be, use Warren(who has looked pretty good this year, especially at LT; I'd imagine he'll look even better next year with a full season of experience and being healthy under his belt).

 

Seems like a no-brainer to me, especially when you consider Rodgers loves the dude.  Wouldn't be surprised if our two starting OTs next year are Bakhtiari and Becton.  Then we take whatever weapon we can with our 1st(Nabers or Bowers).

 

Other than that, on that list, I'd be looking at Reader at DT.  We need a quality run stuffer next to Quinnen.  Maybe we can find that in the early 3rd, I'm not sure, but that would be quite the gamble to expect that.

[Sammybighead]

25 minutes ago, bonkertons said:

If Becton only costs 7 or 8 for 1 year I would 100% bring him back at RT.  Let him get the full training camp there with the 1st team, and NEVER move him out of that spot.  If our LT goes down, whoever that may be, use Warren(who has looked pretty good this year, especially at LT; I'd imagine he'll look even better next year with a full season of experience and being healthy under his belt).

 

Seems like a no-brainer to me, especially when you consider Rodgers loves the dude.  Wouldn't be surprised if our two starting OTs next year are Bakhtiari and Becton.  Then we take whatever weapon we can with our 1st(Nabers or Bowers).

 

Other than that, on that list, I'd be looking at Reader at DT.  We need a quality run stuffer next to Quinnen.  Maybe we can find that in the early 3rd, I'm not sure, but that would be quite the gamble to expect that.

After everything we've been through past several years with this oline, you want to go into next year with 2 guys that you'll be lucky to get 10 games combined out of?

If those 2 are our starters, I'll be calling for JDs scalp immediately after the draft.

[bonkertons]

2 minutes ago, Sammybighead said:

After everything we've been through past several years with this oline, you want to go into next year with 2 guys that you'll be lucky to get 10 games combined out of?

If those 2 are our starters, I'll be calling for JDs scalp immediately after the draft.

Didn't say that's what I want, but I wouldn't be surprised.  Becton should be back though, that I do want.  Guy stayed on the field.  He'll be cheap to hang on to, and he's arguably better suited at RT.  Bring him back for cheap and stick him there from the start of TC.

 

Other than that though, at LT at least, you don't have many options if you miss out on Alt and Fashanu.  If they feel like there's a chance those guys won't be there when we pick, they'll probably just decide to go the FA route.  If that happens, you know Rodgers will be pushing for his boy.  Injury history be damned.  Aside from that you're looking at either other fossils(remember how everyone now acts like Brown getting hurt was a forgone conclusion because "he's old") or paying a sh*t ton for a guy like Onwenu and hoping he's not going to "Tomlinson" us. 

 

No matter what, if we miss out on the rookies, we're rolling the dice.  I'd bet JD would prefer the 1 year vet and reevaluate next year over paying big money for a question-mark.  

[Jetsfan80]

4 hours ago, oatmeal said:

He’s right,

all the teams running with backups will not be in the superbowl and if you not playing in the big game the season is a wash idc what anyone says 

Super Bowl?  We just want a playoff game (first since 2010) and maybe even a home one (2002).

And ask Nick Foles whether it’s possible to get there and win with the backup.  

The AFC/AFC East was wide open this year and we d**ked around with Zach without adding anyone legitimate to the QB room.  Unforgivable.

[Bronx]

Sleepy Bubba Douglas will sign the 5th tier FAs, guaranteed! 

[chirorob]

"The 6-foot-7, 363-pound dancing bear looked leaner in training camp and has performed admirably as a pass protector despite the revolving door of quarterbacks operating behind him"

That's how they describe Becton.   Performed Admirably.   Hasn't he given up like, 14 sacks?

[Hex]

18 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

QB2 is worthless.  If ur starting gets hurt, ur season is over.  Jet fans still wasting time on things that dont matter.

Cleveland Browns immediately come to mind. 

[DoubleDown]

Barring an injury in the final two games, Huff bet on himself and won.  He'll get paid this offseason, and it won't be by the Jets or for the lack of the Jets trying.

Becton is as good as gone.  Not exercising his fifth year option and the way they treated him last summer speak volumes.  Also, "admirably" is not at all how Becton's play this season should be described.  He's living off a solid, not great, rookie year.  The reality is he hasn't played at an adequate level since his injuries.  He's more of a liability than an asset at this stage.  The Jets need a complete revamp at OL, and moving on from Becton is an almost certain part of that revamp.

[The Crusher]

5 hours ago, oatmeal said:

He’s right,

all the teams running with backups will not be in the superbowl and if you not playing in the big game the season is a wash idc what anyone says 

Didn't the Eagles do exactly that? I appreciate you feel it's Superbowl or bust but myself? I'd settle for anything but the season being 100% over after 4 plays. We have to have a winning season before we can win a Superbowl. Minshew  could have likely done that. That's the point. Who knows? Defense got hot late catch lightning in a bottle. You might wanna wait for a sure thing and I respect that, but I'll take a punchers chances any day my friend. Instead of a Zach Wilson slap fight.