JetNation 2024 Mock Draft - Discussion

[BornJetsFan1983]

4 hours ago, Beerfish said:

We have a trade, just waiting for the moderators to ratify the trade and give the go ahead for the next pick

NY Jets trade 1-10 to Pittsburgh (Sam Sam Hes Our Man)

for

1-20, 2-51, 6-178

This would be good I think. Not sure if we really get enough for it. I believe a first includes next year first...but this is a savy move. Jets need to stay hungry and a Wr and lineman in first two rounds is great 

[JustInFudge]

A trade has been offered from the Jets to the Jags.  The Jags have accepted this trade but the Jets GM is lost somewhere in the Sahtu Lands of Canada and has not been able to confirm. 

[32EBoozer]

7 hours ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

This would be good I think. Not sure if we really get enough for it. I believe a first includes next year first...but this is a savy move. Jets need to stay hungry and a Wr and lineman in first two rounds is great 

Due to the way JD attacked FA (1 year too late) we will need suffer a bit on quality with a trade back, but with Williams, Morgan & Smith signed, and hopefully staying healthy, we can develop a starting RT & #2 WR.

[32EBoozer]

34 minutes ago, JustInFudge said:

A trade has been offered from the Jets to the Jags.  The Jags have accepted this trade but the Jets GM is lost somewhere in the Sahtu Lands of Canada and has not been able to confirm. 

If this is the case, it’s got to be for the WR Mitchell IMO. Plenty of OT will be sitting there at 20

[Beerfish]

Sorry for the delay I am Mountain time 2 hours behind you guys.   The trade is:

Jacksonville 1-17

for

New York Jets 1-20, 4-111, 6-178

I shall pm the moderators for confirmation and then make my pick right away.

[GreenFish]

Nice.

Basically traded down to move a 4th to a 2nd.

Then picked up a comparable OT as was available at 10. 

[PepPep]

11 hours ago, 32EBoozer said:

Bowers With Waddle, TH & Achane…. That offense will be even more dangerous 

We desperately need a DT or Edge Rusher! 😁

Defense?? We talking Defense??? 😁

[Beerfish]

I had attempted to trade with Seattle but my phone calls were ignored, here is an image of the Seattle GM in action:

[Alka]

24 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Sorry for the delay I am Mountain time 2 hours behind you guys.   The trade is:

Jacksonville 1-17

for

New York Jets 1-20, 4-111, 6-178

I shall pm the moderators for confirmation and then make my pick right away.

With Latham and Mims still on the board at #17, this is an excellent move!!!  Very nice!   One or both of these guys would have been gone by #20 if we had stayed put.

[Lith]

Just hope that JD can maneuver as well in the draft next month as @Beerfish just did.  Fashanu is the guy I thought you were moving up for.  I fyou can kick him inside to G for a season, he could be an upgrade over Simpson and adds much needed depth and youth to the OT position.

Well done.

[Beerfish]

2 minutes ago, Lith said:

Just hope that JD can maneuver as well in the draft next month as @Beerfish just did.  Fashanu is the guy I thought you were moving up for.  I fyou can kick him inside to G for a season, he could be an upgrade over Simpson and adds much needed depth and youth to the OT position.

Well done.

The draft is deep with OTs so a decent one would have been available at 20 but Fashanu was my 1st choice (after alt got picked).   If Bowers was still there I would have had a difficult decision and would have been happy to trade up for him as well.

[Larz]

Didn’t you guys do this last year where the board favorite player mysteriously fell to the jets ? 😂

[Doggin94it]

1 hour ago, GreenFish said:

Nice.

Basically traded down to move a 4th to a 2nd.

Then picked up a comparable OT as was available at 10. 

And about the right value for the move, regardless of which chart.

Rich Hill: 10-->17 =73. 111--->51 = 74 (net gain: 1 = late 7th round pick)

Jimmy Johnson: 10->17= 350. 111->51= 318 (net loss: 32 = early 5th round pick)

Fitzgerald/Spielberger: 10->17= 269, 111->51= 394 (net gain: 125 = UDFA)

Nicely done

[32EBoozer]

1 hour ago, Larz said:

Didn’t you guys do this last year where the board favorite player mysteriously fell to the jets ? 😂

I can state unequivocally NO!

 

Ask JD… he knows!

[Maynard13]

2 hours ago, Beerfish said:

Sorry for the delay I am Mountain time 2 hours behind you guys.   The trade is:

Jacksonville 1-17

for

New York Jets 1-20, 4-111, 6-178

I shall pm the moderators for confirmation and then make my pick right away.

Now take all those 4/6/7’s and trade back into 2nd/3rd round. 

[Dcat]

so who made the better OT pick?
17 - Fashanu to Jets - @Beerfish
18 - Latham to Bengals - @32EBoozer

Discuss. Bicker. Argue. Make-up. Hug.
 

[Dcat]

2 hours ago, Beerfish said:

I had attempted to trade with Seattle but my phone calls were ignored, here is an image of the Seattle GM in action:

wait.  You mean Joe Douglas is the Seattle GM in this draft? All this time and JD's secret handle has been @T0mShane?

[PepPep]

NYJ with the steal of the draft. 

JD would be considered a GOD if he got extra draft picks, moved down to 17 and still got Fashanu. 

[32EBoozer]

22 minutes ago, Dcat said:

so who made the better OT pick?
17 - Fashanu to Jets - @Beerfish
18 - Latham to Bengals - @32EBoozer

Discuss. Bicker. Argue. Make-up. Hug.
 

Both quality picks. With Smith(1 yr) and Morgan(2 yr) signed, Fashanu and Warren can contribute this year at both Tackle positions.

Bengals signed Trent Brown to a 1 year deal and with 4 picks in the top 97, I wanted to get a player ready to man the right side from Day 1.

With Chase & Higgins,  I can find a solid #2/3 WR easier in the late 1st/early 2nd.

[T0mShane]

32 minutes ago, Dcat said:

wait.  You mean Joe Douglas is the Seattle GM in this draft? All this time and JD's secret handle has been @T0mShane?

I offered @Beerfish #16 and Jaxon Smith Njigba for the right to move up to #10, but he fired back that JSN sucks and he only says he’s good as a means to bash Joe Douglas. 

[Beerfish]

I like the guts of the Rams drafting the top rated center, not getting cute and hoping he is there later on.

Powers-Johnson sounds like a real beast.

I'm not as high of latham but many of the experts like him a lot so I will defer.  Oline is very nice and deep this year that is for sure.  Some real top end guys all through the 1st round.

I'm a believer in Brian Thomas, he is not far outside that top tier of three WRs

 

[New York Mick]

1 minute ago, Beerfish said:

I like the guts of the Rams drafting the top rated center, not getting cute and hoping he is there later on.

Powers-Johnson sounds like a real beast.

I'm not as high of latham but many of the experts like him a lot so I will defer.  Oline is very nice and deep this year that is for sure.  Some real top end guys all through the 1st round.

I'm a believer in Brian Thomas, he is not far outside that top tier of three WRs

 

That pick surprised me

[Sarge4Tide]

My Grades for Every Pick So Far:

NFL Team	GM	Player	Pos	School	Sarge's Grade
Bears	Maury77	Caleb Williams	QB	USC	A
Commanders	NYJetsVets91	Jayden Daniels	QB	LSU	A+
Patriots	Greenseed4	Drake Maye	QB	North Carolina	A
Cardinals	Dcat	Marvin Harrison Jr.	WR	Ohio State	A+
Chargers	Paradis	Malik Nabers	WR	LSU	A-
Giants	King P	Rome Odunze	WR	Washington	A-
Titans	Maynard13	Joe Alt	OT	Notre Dame	A+
Falcons	WhartonJet	Dallas Turner	EDGE	Alabama	A
Bears	Maury77	Jared Verse	EDGE	Florida State	A
Steelers	Sam Sam He's Our Man	Taliese Fuaga	OT	Oregon State	A
Vikings	Integrity28	J.J. McCarthy	QB	Michigan	A
Broncos	sec143dmf	Terrion Arnold	CB	Alabama	B+
Raiders	Neilos	Quinyon Mitchell	CB	Toledo	B+
Dolphins	PepPep	Brock Bowers	TE	Georgia	A
Colts	Section314	Brian Thomas Jr.	WR	LSU	A-
Seahawks	T0m Shane	Cooper DeJean	CB	Iowa	B+
Jets	Beerfish	Olumuyiwa Fashanu	OT	Penn State	A+
Bengals	32EBoozer	JC Latham	OT	Alabama	B+
Rams	BroadwayBen	Jackson Powers-Johnson	OC	Oregon	B
Jaguars	JustInFudge	Amarius Mims	OT	Georgia	B-

 

JUST MY OPINION FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES, NO DISRESPECT INTENDED TO ANYONE

[Dcat]

Trades comparison: JJ chart vs Rich Hill

trade 1 - Jets sent 10 to Steelers for 20, 51, 178
JJ Chart: Jets overpay by 40, equivalent to pick 132, low 4th
RH Chart: Steelers overpay by 20, equivalent to pick 126, low 4th
vastly diff't values

trade 2 - Saints sent 14 to Dolphins for 21, 55
JJ Chart: Saints overpay by 50, equivalent to pick 122, mid 4th
RH Chart: Saints overpay by 37, equivalent to pick 98, bottom 3rd
similar values

trade 3 - Jags sent 17 to Jets for 20, 111, 178
JJ Chart: Jax overpays by 8, equivalent to pick 208, low 6th
RH Chart: Jets overpay by 9, equivalent to pick 173, bottom 5th
different

[Jdeet]

TRADE ALERT -

New Orleans Saints trade pick #21, pick #150, pick #168 to the KC Chiefs for pick #32 and pick #64. 

It’s a 1st, 5th, 5th / for a 1st and 2nd. 

[kdels62]

15 minutes ago, Jdeet said:

TRADE ALERT -

New Orleans Saints trade pick #21, pick #150, pick #168 to the KC Chiefs for pick #32 and pick #64. 

It’s a 1st, 5th, 5th / for a 1st and 2nd. 

Confirmed.

[section314]

guys, don't forget to pm mods for approval

 

[NYJetsVets91]

38 minutes ago, Jdeet said:

TRADE ALERT -

New Orleans Saints trade pick #21, pick #150, pick #168 to the KC Chiefs for pick #32 and pick #64. 

It’s a 1st, 5th, 5th / for a 1st and 2nd. 

 

10 minutes ago, section314 said:

guys, don't forget to pm mods for approval

 

This.. Otherwise we haven't updated the spreadsheet and it causes headaches for us.

[Lith]

39 minutes ago, Jdeet said:

TRADE ALERT -

New Orleans Saints trade pick #21, pick #150, pick #168 to the KC Chiefs for pick #32 and pick #64. 

It’s a 1st, 5th, 5th / for a 1st and 2nd. 

 

24 minutes ago, kdels62 said:

Confirmed.

Good to go.  Spreaadhseet is updated.  @Jdeet you are on the clock.

[Lith]

13 minutes ago, section314 said:

guys, don't forget to pm mods for approval

 

Please remember to PM all 4 mods with trade confrimation.  This one was sent just to me originally and I had been offline for a couple of hours -- work sometimes gets in the way of our mock.

[New York Mick]

49 minutes ago, Jdeet said:

TRADE ALERT -

New Orleans Saints trade pick #21, pick #150, pick #168 to the KC Chiefs for pick #32 and pick #64. 

It’s a 1st, 5th, 5th / for a 1st and 2nd. 

You took my second round pick. 

[Beerfish]

Chiefs get very aggressive and go up to get hopefully their next tyreek.

Worthy is certainly a KC type of guy that is for sure.

I did not have him rated as high but I never get mad at guys going up to get a player they really like and if you are super bowl champs you get wiggle room.

[Jdeet]

13 minutes ago, New York Mick said:

You took my second round pick. 

You obviously just exited your darkness retreat. 😂 No way he was lasting the 1st round. 

[New York Mick]

5 minutes ago, Jdeet said:

You obviously just exited your darkness retreat. 😂 No way he was lasting the 1st round. 

I was trying to trade up into the high second to get him. I’m thinking he’ll be late 1st early 2nd. 

[JustInFudge]

6 hours ago, Beerfish said:

The draft is deep with OTs so a decent one would have been available at 20 but Fashanu was my 1st choice (after alt got picked).   If Bowers was still there I would have had a difficult decision and would have been happy to trade up for him as well.

I knew you wanted Fashanu but me like Mims better.