Positional value and day 2/3 strategy

[David Harris]

11 minutes ago, Maynard13 said:

All those 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th round picks aint doing squat to move up to mid round 2. JD will have to give up #72 and a 3rd next year and a 4th (129) this year to get into round 2. Take Corely then thereafter go get Pratt.  Pratt in early round 4 with the other 4th.  We dont need another TE or safety. Davis was resigned. We are set there.  We'd still have 134, 157 and 256 to pick up OL depth and another sleeper WR like Ryan Flourney. 

Corely round 3 - #72, next year's 3rd, and this years 4th #129

Round 4 #111 QB Pratt  

At 134, 157, 256 you look to find depth on the OL and grab another WR.  

Guard  Robinson,  Guard Zinter, Tackle Greenfiled, WR Cowing, WR Mcaffrey, Tackle Christian Jones,Tackle Javon Foster,  WR Flourney 

Agreed.  The free 4th and 5th rounder are nice but don't really allow us to get high into the 2nd.  If we package our 3rd, 4th and 4th we can only slide up to back end of round 2.  Maybe jump from 72 to around 56.  I think these wideouts are going to get scooped up, hoping a good one slides.

Our roster is pretty stacked, no way we end up keeping all these Day 3 picks.

 

 

RD1		RD2		RD3		RD4		RD5		RD6		RD7
PK/TM		PK/TM		PK/TM		PK/TM		PK/TM		PK/TM		PK/TM
1  CHI	3000	33  BUF	580	65  CAR	265	101  CAR	96	136  DEN	38	177  MIN	20.6	221  BUF	3
2  WAS	2600	34  NE	560	66  ARI	260	102  SEA	92	137  NE	37.5	178  PIT	20.2	222  WAS	2.6
3  NE	2200	35  ARI	550	67  WAS	255	103  NE	88	138  ARI	37	179  SEA	19.8	223  LV	2.3
4  ARI	1800	36  WAS	540	68  NE	250	104  ARI	86	139  WAS	36.5	180  NE	19.4	224  CIN	2
5  LAC	1700	37  LAC	530	69  LAC	245	105  LAC	84	140  LAC	36	181  LAC	19	225  LAC	1.8
6  NYG	1600	38  TEN	520	70  NYG	240	106  TEN	82	141  BUF	35.5	182  TEN	18.6	226  ARI	1.6
7  TEN	1500	39  CAR	510	71  ARI	235	107  NYG	80	142  CAR	35	183  NYG	18.2	227  CLE	1.4
8  ATL	1400	40  WAS	500	72  NYJ	230	108  MIN	78	143  ATL	34.5	184  MIA	17.8	228  BAL	1.2
9  CHI	1350	41  GB	490	73  DAL	225	109  ATL	76	144  BUF	34	185  NYJ	17.4	229  LV	1
10  MIN	1300	42  HOU	480	74  ATL	220	110  LAC	74	145  DEN	33.5	186  ARI	17	230  MIN	1
11  NYJ	1250	43  ATL	470	75  CHI	215	111  NYJ	72	146  TEN	33	187  ATL	16.6	231  NE	1
12  DEN	1200	44  LV	460	76  DEN	210	112  LV	70	147  DEN	32.6	188  HOU	16.2	232  MIN	1
13  LV	1150	45  NO	450	77  LV	205	113  BAL	68	148  LV	32.3	189  HOU	15.8	233  DAL	1
14  NO	1100	46  IND	440	78  WAS	200	114  JAX	66	149  CIN	31.8	190  NO	15.4	234  IND	1
15  IND	1050	47  NYG	430	79  ATL	195	115  CIN	64	150  NO	31.4	191  IND	15	235  SEA	1
16  SEA	1000	48  JAX	420	80  CIN	190	116  JAX	62	151  IND	31	192  SEA	14.6	236  JAX	1
17  MIN	950	49  CIN	410	81  SEA	185	117  IND	60	152  WAS	30.6	193  NE	14.2	237  CIN	1
18  CIN	900	50  PHI	400	82  IND	180	118  SEA	58	153  JAX	30.2	194  CIN	13.8	238  HOU	1
19  LAR	875	51  PIT	390	83  LAR	175	119  PIT	56	154  LAR	29.8	195  PIT	13.4	239  NO	1
20  PIT	850	52  LAR	380	84  PIT	170	120  PHI	54	155  LAR	29.4	196  LAR	13	240  CAR	1
21  MIA	800	53  PHI	370	85  CLE	165	121  DEN	52	156  CLE	29	197  ATL	12.6	241  MIA	1
22  PHI	780	54  CLE	360	86  HOU	160	122  CHI	50	157  NYJ	28.6	198  MIA	12.2	242  TEN	1
23  JAX	760	55  MIA	350	87  DAL	155	123  HOU	49	158  MIA	28.2	199  NO	11.8	243  CLE	1
24  DET	740	56  DAL	340	88  GB	150	124  SF	48	159  KC	27.8	200  CAR	11.4	244  DAL	1
25  GB	720	57  TB	330	89  TB	145	125  TB	47	160  BUF	27.4	201  DET	11	245  GB	1
26  TB	700	58  GB	320	90  ARI	140	126  GB	46	161  PHI	27	202  GB	10.6	246  TB	1
27  ARI	680	59  HOU	310	91  GB	136	127  HOU	45	162  ARI	26.6	203  MIN	10.2	247  HOU	1
28  KC	660	60  BUF	300	92  TB	132	128  BUF	44	163  BUF	26.2	204  BUF	9.8	248  KC	1
29  DAL	640	61  DET	292	93  BAL	128	129  NYJ	43	164  DET	25.8	205  DET	9.4	249  DET	1
30  BAL	620	62  BAL	284	94  SF	124	130  BAL	42	165  BAL	25.4	206  CLE	9	250  BAL	1
31  SF	600	63  SF	276	95  BUF	120	131  KC	41	166  NYG	25	207  DEN	8.6	251  SF	1
32  CAR	590	64  KC	270	96  JAX	116	132  SF	40	167  JAX	24.6	208  LV	8.2	252  TEN	1
				97  CIN	112	133  KC	39.5	168  NO	24.2	209  LAR	7.8	253  LAC	1
				98  PIT	108	134  NYJ	39	169  GB	23.8	210  PHI	7.4	254  LAR	1
				99  LAR	104	135  SF	38.5	170  NO	23.4	211  SF	7	255  GB	1
				100  WAS	100			171  PHI	23	212  JAX	6.6	256  DEN	1
								172  PHI	22.6	213  LAR	6.2	257  NYJ	1

[Alka]

1 hour ago, Integrity28 said:

Primary needs: WR, TE, S

Secondary needs: QB, RB, DL

WR is the only glaring need that will necessitate a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Ideally we trade up to get a top-15 WR prospect, but we may be okay at 72.

TE, RB and S are positions where you can find excellent prospects later in the draft relative to the quality of the prospects at other positions… purely because of positional valuation. I think we can absolutely get a thumper to complement Breece and Izzy in 4th or 5th. I can also see us adding to the TE and S rooms in the same range. 

All this to say, I think we’re fortunate that when our picks are happen to align pretty well with the parts of the draft where value meets our specific needs.

It should be a fun couple of days seeing how they finish.

Listen, I agree with almost everything on your post.  The problem I have, is that some "experts" seem to think that we need to upgrade our TE position.  Bullsh*t!

Why?  Because all the brilliant minds made the dumb prediction that the Jets were 100% going to draft Brock Bowers, so in order to justify their belief, they said that the Jets were in need of a TE.  Again, Bullsh*t!

Remember this analogy:  "When all you have in your tool box is a hammer, then everything looks like a nail!"

Conklin had his best season as an NFL pro last year, and he is only 28 years old.  The braintrust on the Jets also believe that Ruckert will be a future star.  I don't care whether you believe it or not, but they have said it repeatedly, and well as Leger Douzable, who focuses on the Jets primarily.

I correctly predicted, rather emotionally, over and over again, that the Jets would no way draft Brock Bowers at #10.  I will make the next prediction right now:  The Jets will not be drafting a TE in this entire draft.  Okay?  

This is annoying to me.

[LIJetsFan]

This is the guy I hope drops way too far so we can draft and stash him on IR:  Florida State QB Jordan Travis recovery from leg injury

[Maynard13]

37 minutes ago, Alka said:

Listen, I agree with almost everything on your post.  The problem I have, is that some "experts" seem to think that we need to upgrade our TE position.  Bullsh*t!

Why?  Because all the brilliant minds made the dumb prediction that the Jets were 100% going to draft Brock Bowers, so in order to justify their belief, they said that the Jets were in need of a TE.  Again, Bullsh*t!

Remember this analogy:  "When all you have in your tool box is a hammer, then everything looks like a nail!"

Conklin had his best season as an NFL pro last year, and he is only 28 years old.  The braintrust on the Jets also believe that Ruckert will be a future star.  I don't care whether you believe it or not, but they have said it repeatedly, and well as Leger Douzable, who focuses on the Jets primarily.

I correctly predicted, rather emotionally, over and over again, that the Jets would no way draft Brock Bowers at #10.  I will make the next prediction right now:  The Jets will not be drafting a TE in this entire draft.  Okay?  

This is annoying to me.

The prevailing word in this thread is Bullsheet. TE ? Bullsheet. RB? Bullsheet. DL Bullsheet. Safety? Bullsheet. 

[derp]

I think the roster is well set up to just draft players they like. Agree the need/position value thing lines up pretty well. 

Wide receiver - they could move up for someone they love. There are a couple guys I like. Think you could argue there's a better shot of hitting if they take two than pick one and with the pieces behind Wilson and Williams being Lazard, Gipson, Brownlee, and Charles I think they could use a little infusion of depth and talent.

Could easily add and roster developmental QB3, RB3, iOL. They could also definitely fit an edge. Safety wouldn't be that hard to fit either. And they absolutely could use long-term pieces at DT and LB if there's someone they like.

A sneaky big long-term need unless they extend guys, Sauce is the only corner they have signed for next year.

[Mr. Rogers]

1 hour ago, Guilhermezmc said:

I think we're set at TE, they got Yeboah back and have Kuntz the PS guy.

 

RB2 LB and DT are much bigger needs

I'm not sure I agree. Conklin is our clear cut best guy and he's in the final year of his deal. After that it's a lot of question marks, besides Ruckert looking like a good blocker / functional TE2. Even if the Jets extend Conklin, a new TE wouldn't hurt as a development project.

I would group TE is a low priority move - I won't be upset if the Jets don't draft one, but I agree with tegrity's take that a 5th-7th rounder could help us in the future.

Of course, if we use multiple picks to move up, TE will quickly fall off the priority list behind RB, S, QB, etc 

[Claymation]

There isn't a TE worth taking for the rest of the draft.

[32EBoozer]

2 hours ago, Integrity28 said:

Primary needs: WR, TE, S

Secondary needs: QB, RB, DL

WR is the only glaring need that will necessitate a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Ideally we trade up to get a top-15 WR prospect, but we may be okay at 72.

TE, RB and S are positions where you can find excellent prospects later in the draft relative to the quality of the prospects at other positions… purely because of positional valuation. I think we can absolutely get a thumper to complement Breece and Izzy in 4th or 5th. I can also see us adding to the TE and S rooms in the same range. 

All this to say, I think we’re fortunate that when our picks are happen to align pretty well with the parts of the draft where value meets our specific needs.

It should be a fun couple of days seeing how they finish.

40 Picks until Jets are OTC. I'd be pouring over the Big Board making my best guesses on other team needs... If I'm JD, once I'm in the mid-40's I start calling teams in the mid-50's to see if they bare looking to deal. Can't be shy tonight. Being aggressive has worked for him recently... keep the mojo going and get your guy.

@Beerfish could conceivably go 2/2 on Jets picks. That would be quite the coup!

[section314]

2 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

There is 0 need for a tight end.  We have 2 really good ones, one pretty good one and one with huge upside.  Might be one of the deepest tight end rooms in the nfl.  It was the reason Brock Bowers wasnt even on our board.

This isnt difficult folks.  The Jets are trading back in to the 2nd round and taking a stud receiver.

Book it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I really think AR is going to use Lazard more in a TE role than a traditional WR role.Wilson, Williams and day two pick will be the 3 primary WR’s.

[Maynard13]

1 hour ago, LIJetsFan said:

This is the guy I hope drops way too far so we can draft and stash him on IR:  Florida State QB Jordan Travis recovery from leg injury

I saw clips of this kid play.  Just sick. He has really good skills and Florida State played lights out in 2023.  Compared him to Zach Wilson, who went #2,  this kid may not even be drafted until round 5 or 6 or even 7.   How is that even possible? Yea he was inured and suffefred a broken leg but he's out of his boot from his injury and recovering well.  He's just making defenders look silly out there. He has Lamar Jackson vibes written all over him! I'm with you on taking him!

 

 

 

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

Really hope we’re able to grab Travis or Pratt. Would be huge. 

17 minutes ago, Maynard13 said:

I saw clips of this kid play.  Just sick. He has really good skills and Florida State played lights out in 2023.  Compared him to Zach Wilson, who went #2,  this kid may not even be drafted until round 5 or 6 or even 7.   How is that even possible? Yea he was inured and suffefred a broken leg but he's out of his boot from his injury and recovering well.  He's just making defenders look silly out there. He has Lamar Jackson vibes written all over him! I'm with you on taking him!

 

 

 

 

[Integrity28]

3 hours ago, Guilhermezmc said:

Kuntz sure, i just don't think they will cut yeboah just after extending him but what do i know right

Eh, you’re probably right, but whatever… cut him anyway so his truthers pee themselves.

[Integrity28]

2 hours ago, Alka said:

Listen, I agree with almost everything on your post.  The problem I have, is that some "experts" seem to think that we need to upgrade our TE position.  Bullsh*t!

Why?  Because all the brilliant minds made the dumb prediction that the Jets were 100% going to draft Brock Bowers, so in order to justify their belief, they said that the Jets were in need of a TE.  Again, Bullsh*t!

Remember this analogy:  "When all you have in your tool box is a hammer, then everything looks like a nail!"

Conklin had his best season as an NFL pro last year, and he is only 28 years old.  The braintrust on the Jets also believe that Ruckert will be a future star.  I don't care whether you believe it or not, but they have said it repeatedly, and well as Leger Douzable, who focuses on the Jets primarily.

I correctly predicted, rather emotionally, over and over again, that the Jets would no way draft Brock Bowers at #10.  I will make the next prediction right now:  The Jets will not be drafting a TE in this entire draft.  Okay?  

This is annoying to me.

I’m not an expert. Those are the needs I believe we have. I have no confidence in Yeboah or Kuntz and think it makes sense to have a full TE room. I’m not saying “upgrade”. I don’t expect a 3rd-5th rounder to suddenly put Conklin and Ruck on the bench. I think we need a viable 3rd TE, same as I don’t expect the WR we need to bench Mike or Garrett, or the S to start right away. I just see these as shallow parts of our roster that benefit from investment.

 

[Integrity28]

I wouldn’t be mad at this

 

[NYJCAP2]

3 hours ago, slats said:

Agree completely that TE is not a need. I’d like to see them use two of their remaining seven picks on WRs; their third rounder and one more in the fourth. A RB wouldn’t bother me, either, preferably a thumper. 

Would you lose it if they didn’t take a WR at 72 and then double dipped in the 4th?

[NYJCAP2]

5 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

I wouldn’t be mad at this

 

I agree that there may be a really good player available at 72, that isn't a WR. 
 

I’d be OK with that as long as they take 2 WR in the 4th.

[Augustiniak]

1 minute ago, NYJCAP2 said:

Would you lose it if they didn’t take a WR at 72 and then double dipped in the 4th?

I could see that, going defense today.  

[NYJCAP2]

2 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

I could see that, going defense today.  

If Nubin, Fiske, or Jenkins are there at 72… I’m in. Then go get slot WRs.

[Tranquilo]

50 minutes ago, Maynard13 said:

I saw clips of this kid play.  Just sick. He has really good skills and Florida State played lights out in 2023.  Compared him to Zach Wilson, who went #2,  this kid may not even be drafted until round 5 or 6 or even 7.   How is that even possible? Yea he was inured and suffefred a broken leg but he's out of his boot from his injury and recovering well.  He's just making defenders look silly out there. He has Lamar Jackson vibes written all over him! I'm with you on taking him!

 

 

 

All good points, but will Rodgers be okay with the team drafting a QB named Jordan?

[bitonti]

7 minutes ago, NYJCAP2 said:

I agree that there may be a really good player available at 72, that isn't a WR. 
 

I’d be OK with that as long as they take 2 WR in the 4th.

The fans all want WR, but what would that even look like in 2024? That guy plays WR4/5 behind Wilson, Williams, Lazard, and maybe Gipson. 

It's one thing to draft Rome/Bowers and say that pick is going to be WR2/3, but at a certain point, these guys become developmental, and the Jets still really aren't making Developmental picks right now. Rodgers' hand signals and whatnot are not rookie WR-friendly. And the team already has a KR/PR so that usual rookie job is taken. 

side note: Olu's gonna play a lot. Like 6-8 starts. Maybe the whole year. The fans don't want to consider this outcome, but it's pretty likely 

Bring on a Kris Jenkins at 72 or BPA whoever that is. If it's a WR, that's awesome too. I just don't see it as a huge need atm

right now the roster needs are RB2, QB3 (do teams even do that anymore?) DT3, safety and maybe a CJ Mosely replacement 

[Guilhermezmc]

Twitter is saying that the Jets really like Troy Franklin, don't know how hard will it be to get him, maybe its out of reach if he doesn't falls a bit.

 

[slats]

9 minutes ago, NYJCAP2 said:

Would you lose it if they didn’t take a WR at 72 and then double dipped in the 4th?

I’d somewhat lose it tonight and then regain my composure tomorrow. 

[Tranquilo]

1 minute ago, bitonti said:

The fans all want WR but what would that even look like in 2024? that guy plays WR4/5 behind Wilson, Williams, Lazard, and maybe Gipson? 

It's one thing to draft Rome/Bowers and say that guys going to be WR2/3 but at a certain point these guys become developmental and the Jets still really aren't making Developmental picks right now. Rodger's hand signals and whatnot are not rookie WR friendly. And the team already has a KR/PR so that usual rookie job is taken. 

side note Olu's gonna play a lot. Like 6-8 starts. Maybe the whole year. The fans don't want to consider this outcome, but it's pretty likely 

so yes Bring on a Kris Jenkins at 72 or BPA whoever that is. If it's a WR that's awesome too. I just don't see it as a huge need atm

right now the honest needs are RB2, safety and maybe a CJ Mosely replacement 

Mike Williams isn’t dependable, health wise so we need the depth. If the receiver is good, he will be fine. Rodger’s last year in GB saw him be successful with Christian Watson. Even Doubs had good games with Rodgers. 

[Augustiniak]

1 minute ago, bitonti said:

The fans all want WR but what would that even look like in 2024? that guy plays WR4/5 behind Wilson, Williams, Lazard, and maybe Gipson? 

It's one thing to draft Rome/Bowers and say that guys going to be WR2/3 but at a certain point these guys become developmental and the Jets still really aren't making Developmental picks right now. Rodger's hand signals and whatnot are not rookie WR friendly. And the team already has a KR/PR so that usual rookie job is taken. 

side note Olu's gonna play a lot. Like 6-8 starts. Maybe the whole year. The fans don't want to consider this outcome, but it's pretty likely 

so yes Bring on a Kris Jenkins at 72 or BPA whoever that is. If it's a WR that's awesome too. I just don't see it as a huge need atm

right now the honest needs are RB2, QB3 (do teams even do that anymore?) DT3, safety and maybe a CJ Mosely replacement 

If the jets decided they want a legit #2 wr they can trade into the mid 2nd round and take a guy they really like.  If not they can sit where they are and then decide if it’s worth taking a wr in the early 3rd knowing they have 3 picks in the 4th round, or go with their favorite DT or S and then draft wr depth on day 3

[Alka]

18 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

I’m not an expert. Those are the needs I believe we have. I have no confidence in Yeboah or Kuntz and think it makes sense to have a full TE room. I’m not saying “upgrade”. I don’t expect a 3rd-5th rounder to suddenly put Conklin and Ruck on the bench. I think we need a viable 3rd TE, same as I don’t expect the WR we need to bench Mike or Garrett, or the S to start right away. I just see these as shallow parts of our roster that benefit from investment.

 

I think the most important part of your post is, that you have no confidence in Yeboah or Kuntz.  

The question is: "What does JD and scouts think of these 2 guys?"  

Both are athletic freaks of nature.  The second question is: "Is the TE that we are picking up in the later rounds, a better prospect then the the guys we currently have on the roster?"

Anyone that we draft in the later rounds will be a lower tier draft pick than Brock Bowers.  Will the player they are looking at grade better than Yeboah or Kuntz?

I will answer the question for you.  The answer is no.  This is why the Jets will not draft one this year.  

And by the way, either Yeboah or Kuntz, I forget who, was a free agent this offseason, and the Jets chose to sign them to a new contract to stay on the team.  That would indicate to me, that they have confidence in these guys going forward, to continue to try to develop them.

[Sperm Edwards]

3 hours ago, rayzor said:

are you guys willing to trade our 3rd and three 4's to get to the bottom 3rd of the 2nd?  That's what it will cost according to the value chart which was pretty accurate with the Vikings trade.  The better option might be to trade next year's picks to get a WR to contribute this year but that might shorten the list of teams willing to do so.  With our needs, it might be better to stay put and let the chips fall.

Chart-wise just the early 4th alone, or both of our lower 4ths while keeping pick #111, gets them to picks 59-60 (depending how willing a team is to move down). That's roughly (the middle of) the bottom 1/3 of the 2nd round, no?

Yes they could trade a pick from next year's draft, which would probably be our 3rd rounder next year (paired with our 3rd rounder this year), instead of the earliest of our three picks in the 4th. I think they'd choose a 4th (or a pair of 4ths) this year while we're holding 3 of them instead of our 3rd rounder next season. Could also depend what wiggle room Douglas, presumably from his hot seat, has in trading next season's day 1 or 2 draft picks away.

Depends which WR has lasted to what pick before deciding to move up, if there's a guy they're so focused on getting, which I guess is how it should be.

[Jet_Engine1]

4 hours ago, Integrity28 said:

 

It should be a fun couple of days seeing how they finish.

[bitonti]

2 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

If the jets decided they want a legit #2 wr they can trade into the mid 2nd round and take a guy they really like.  If not they can sit where they are and then decide if it’s worth taking a wr in the early 3rd knowing they have 3 picks in the 4th round, or go with their favorite DT or S and then draft wr depth on day 3

there's a ton of great prospects right now but they'd have to get to the top of the round for the Ladd/Roman types - the guys who really could make a run at Williams/Lazard reps.  it would take a future pick probably. 

not saying it's impossible it just doesn't feel like a dire need is all I'm saying 

it's hard for me to imagine a scenario where the Jets draft a WR today and that guy gets real playing time this year and soaks up targets from Aaron  

 

[Jet_Engine1]

5 minutes ago, Alka said:

I think the most important part of your post is, that you have no confidence in Yeboah or Kuntz.  

The question is: "What does JD and scouts think of these 2 guys?"  

Both are athletic freaks of nature.  The second question is: "Is the TE that we are picking up in the later rounds, a better prospect then the the guys we currently have on the roster?"

Anyone that we draft in the later rounds will be a lower tier draft pick than Brock Bowers.  Will the player they are looking at grade better than Yeboah or Kuntz?

I will answer the question for you.  The answer is no.  This is why the Jets will not draft one this year.  

And by the way, either Yeboah or Kuntz, I forget who, was a free agent this offseason, and the Jets chose to sign them to a new contract to stay on the team.  That would indicate to me, that they have confidence in these guys going forward, to continue to try to develop them.

Yeboah got a new deal to keep him around. Hes a core special teamer, though. 

[bitonti]

8 minutes ago, Tranquilo said:

Mike Williams isn’t dependable, health wise so we need the depth. If the receiver is good, he will be fine. Rodger’s last year in GB saw him be successful with Christian Watson. Even Doubs had good games with Rodgers. 

agree on williams not being dependable. Maybe my memory is bad but I remember Rodgers basically complaining about his rookie WR the whole time, even though they had 1 or 2 good games (they all bloomed last year when Rodgers left in year 2). He didn't seem happy about it

 

[Augustiniak]

1 minute ago, bitonti said:

there's a ton of great prospects right now but they'd have to get to the top of the round for the Ladd/Roman types - the guys who really could make a run at Williams/Lazard reps.  it would take a future pick probably. 

not saying it's impossible it just doesn't feel like a dire need is all I'm saying 

it's hard for me to imagine a scenario where the Jets draft a WR today and that guy gets real playing time this year and soaks up targets from Aaron  

 

For debating sake let’s say they’re in the 23rd pick in the 2nd round and at least one of franklin, Roman wilson or Corley is there.  Can one of these guys contribute this season, with mike williams recovering from an acl tear and Lazard’s level of commitment a big ?  Maybe.  

[SickJetFan]

I think the needs should be WR, C/G, RB, S, ILB in that order

with that said  - if there is better prospect C/G than WR where they pick they sh do BPA

 

I think RB and S could be brought in later for sure and even in the UDFA

 

also I expect them to use that 7th rounder to secure a camp ARM QB for possible practice squad duty

[bitonti]

3 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

For debating sake let’s say they’re in the 23rd pick in the 2nd round and at least one of franklin, Roman wilson or Corley is there.  Can one of these guys contribute this season, with mike williams recovering from an acl tear and Lazard’s level of commitment a big ?  Maybe.  

Look, I'd be real happy if it played out that way, especially Roman Wilson, but in my heart of hearts RB2 or LB/S at 72 gets more playing time this year than WR4/5

side note Lazard isn't unmotivated he's just a body catcher who Zach was throwing balls at 60 mph and he got disgruntled. The dude has a history of playing well with Rodgers. I just don't know if a rookie can pick up on all the Rodgers audibles and nuances quick enough to help right away 

[varjet]

32 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

I wouldn’t be mad at this

 

This is great and better than I just did.   I had Roman Wilson available at 72, but based on my mock all the WRS and S go before the Fourth Round.  Zinter also lingers and would be a good pick.  

[BornJetsFan1983]

4 hours ago, Integrity28 said:

Primary needs: WR, TE, S

Secondary needs: QB, RB, DL

WR is the only glaring need that will necessitate a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Ideally we trade up to get a top-15 WR prospect, but we may be okay at 72.

TE, RB and S are positions where you can find excellent prospects later in the draft relative to the quality of the prospects at other positions… purely because of positional valuation. I think we can absolutely get a thumper to complement Breece and Izzy in 4th or 5th. I can also see us adding to the TE and S rooms in the same range. 

All this to say, I think we’re fortunate that when our picks are happen to align pretty well with the parts of the draft where value meets our specific needs.

It should be a fun couple of days seeing how they finish.

Im not sure why TE is listed as primary need, we have conklin who is probably best te we have had in forever. We just drafted a couple guys the last two years that really tall kid who rodgers connected with and worked wiht alot at the end of last season, and ruckert. So i dont think we need to draft a TE at all, let along list him as a primary or secondary need. 

WR agreed 100 percent. And you are right abotu the positional value. It does line up nicely wiht our available picks. 

I noticed you put QB in there, and I generally agree we should have some project qb, especially wiht the rule change that gives us the free roster spot. Tyrod is find for back up but i love to take with one of those late picks some purdy type of kid, good numbers, maybe not the biggest school or jump off the tape ability that gets drafted in round 1, but just a solid guy that can run a system, that has a good head on his shoulder and makes good decisions. Im not sure what type of guys are out there, not sure it matter. Just get someone late and let him try to improve. 

We might get the next hasselback or wahtever...