Jetknowledge Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I see alot of John idzik haters but I just want to point out John in his 1st year came in a organization with a roster having plenty holes, bad cap situation, the best player asking for an idiotic deal, and being told who his coach had to be. This team was projected to go 2-4 wins by most experts, but fell just short of the playoffs and in his first year as gm he braught us a DROY... Doesn't he deserve more respect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 As long as he doesn't let Rex down again, I fully support him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 This place is loaded with haters, really haven't seen a lot of Idzik haters, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 This place is loaded with haters, really haven't seen a lot of Idzik haters, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Early results positive on idzik. Even if geno never becomes the guy it was a smart pick in second round to roll the dice on a potential franchise passer. Last year's off season pickups were impressive given the zero flexibility cap situation. This off season could very well set in motion the events that lead to idzik's failure or long term success here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 yeah, I think the general consensus is, so far...so good, on Idzik. The Revis situation was well-handled and netted us the DROY in trade. We also get an extra third rounder this year and don't have to pay an assload of money for him. Winters, Geno, Bhannon, Richardson, Milliner...rookies who have all seen starting reps. Bad luck with Goodson, but a steal in Chris Ivory (kudos for bringing in two instead of putting all eggs in one basket). Solid performances by Willie Colon and Dawan Landry, as well as a nice low-risk pickup in Winslow, and a nice find in WR Nelson. A really good position for the coming year cap-wise and lots of picks in this year's draft. And a toned-down, more business like approach from the entire team. One year of no Tannenbaum has been a relief. Hopefully we're going the right way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I see alot of John idzik haters but I just want to point out John in his 1st year came in a organization with a roster having plenty holes, bad cap situation, the best player asking for an idiotic deal, and being told who his coach had to be. This team was projected to go 2-4 wins by most experts, but fell just short of the playoffs and in his first year as gm he braught us a DROY... Doesn't he deserve more respect? As far as I am concerned, I love IDZIK, and except for one decision (which I think the owner overruled him), I think this guy will be a great GM, and I support him 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 This place is loaded with haters, really haven't seen a lot of Idzik haters, though. Have you tried imagining them here? That seems to work. I don't remember the last time I saw a poster go after Idzik. Those big blue steel Football Eyes could melt even the hardest of hearts. Plus its pretty obvious hes going to be a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 yeah, I think the general consensus is, so far...so good, on Idzik. The Revis situation was well-handled and netted us the DROY in trade. We also get an extra third rounder this year and don't have to pay an assload of money for him. Winters, Geno, Bhannon, Richardson, Milliner...rookies who have all seen starting reps. Bad luck with Goodson, but a steal in Chris Ivory (kudos for bringing in two instead of putting all eggs in one basket). Solid performances by Willie Colon and Dawan Landry, as well as a nice low-risk pickup in Winslow, and a nice find in WR Nelson. A really good position for the coming year cap-wise and lots of picks in this year's draft. And a toned-down, more business like approach from the entire team. One year of no Tannenbaum has been a relief. Hopefully we're going the right way. Yes this is a good recap. He did quiet type moves beside the Revis trade and made the front office respectable again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishing92070 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 He needs to find a quarterback first. The quarterback is the most important player on the team. A good QB can hide many flaws. Right now the Jets don't have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I like his approach so far. the only thing I really didn't like was not cutting goodson the day after he was arrested for being in a car stopped on a highway so drunk he was puking in his lap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 How can anyone dump on a GM after only one year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCJETSFAN Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 How can anyone dump on a GM after only one year? I've said it before you can't praise or dump on him till we see what happens. . He didn't do much really he had some good things and bad we went 8-8 next year we could go 6-10 with our schdule but actually be improved ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Woody was ahead of the curve it seems. Gen. ius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 How can anyone dump on a GM after only one year? The same way people dump on rookies after a few weeks. It's a what-have-you-done-for-me-lately league and it's really only getting worse, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I see alot of John idzik haters but I just want to point out John in his 1st year came in a organization with a roster having plenty holes, bad cap situation, the best player asking for an idiotic deal, and being told who his coach had to be. This team was projected to go 2-4 wins by most experts, but fell just short of the playoffs and in his first year as gm he braught us a DROY... Doesn't he deserve more respect? A 4 win team winning 8 games should be highly credited to the HC. Drafting Richardson had more to do with the previous scouting team than the new comer GM. The GM may have had a say but he had to rely on Tanny's scout team, whether u like it or not. Managing the cap was almost entirely on Idziks shoulder n he did a great job there. From the time he walked in, he's done very good n I hope he can translate that into his first complete off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 He drafted the DROY, he is off to a good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 He drafted the best player of the 2013 draft and played a decent hand of risk/reward with the Geno pick. The fact that the mentality seems to be that they're not handing Geno anything is encouraging. Unloading Revis for a 1st and a 3rd looks like that one will be looked at highly when all is said and done. It is certainly a bit concerning that he's now on Rex's jock, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro55 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 It's still a wait and see for me. The Seahawks just won a super bowl with many guys not drafted in the first few rounds. And yet they were the best team in the NFL this season. It's nice to have stats and a DROY, but at the end of the day, winning teams seem to know how to add depth and players year after year. The Jets have a Defense stacked with a bunch of first rounders. And they aren't all that great of a defense. They are good, but not great. The Seahawks have how many first rounders on that defense ? And they were the best scoring defense of the season and best all around team. And They have a 3rd round QB in his second season. They have an undrafted WR making big plays in a super bowl. Hell Harvin who missed most of the season made plays in the super bowl. All I know is when I look at the Seahawks, I just see a team who knows how to build a winning team. I would love to see the Jets do the same and Idzik follow the same pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Idzik helped build the Seahawks. He basically won us the Lombardi last night, if you think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 It is certainly a bit concerning that he's now on Rex's jock, however. This, all day e'ry day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Wasn't everyone saying that Richardson was Rex's pick and Woody keeps forcing rex on Idzik? Now that he is droy it is Idzik's pick? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 He drafted the best player of the 2013 draft and played a decent hand of risk/reward with the Geno pick. The fact that the mentality seems to be that they're not handing Geno anything is encouraging. Unloading Revis for a 1st and a 3rd looks like that one will be looked at highly when all is said and done. It is certainly a bit concerning that he's now on Rex's jock, however. The only issue I have with Idzik was not bringing Slausen back. We couldn'r sign him for reasonable money? Other than that, I think his player moves have been inexpensive and smart. Solid "B" after his first year in the big chair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Wasn't everyone saying that Richardson was Rex's pick and Woody keeps forcing rex on Idzik? Now that he is droy it is Idzik's pick? Lol Lulz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 He drafted the best player of the 2013 draft and played a decent hand of risk/reward with the Geno pick. The fact that the mentality seems to be that they're not handing Geno anything is encouraging. Unloading Revis for a 1st and a 3rd looks like that one will be looked at highly when all is said and done. It is certainly a bit concerning that he's now on Rex's jock, however. This, all day e'ry day. Meh. I wouldn't worry too much about the "Idzik + Rex Best Friends" campaign, it's just a front to shut the press and fans up about the whole "Rex isn't Idzik's guy" narrative. Rex is a defensive minded, players coach. A guy with the same make-up just won the Superbowl, with players Idzik did in fact help accumulate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Bad luck with Goodson, but a steal in Chris Ivory (kudos for bringing in two instead of putting all eggs in one basket). The Goodson saga isn't over yet. We could look pretty stout out of the backfield with Ivory, Powell and a healthy (and not in the sh!tcan) Goodson. Certainly the high point of the offense as we sit here the day after the SB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 This, all day e'ry day. Mhis, mall may me'ry may. The Goodson saga isn't over yet. We could look pretty stout out of the backfield with Ivory, Powell and a healthy (and not in the sh!tcan) Goodson. Certainly the high point of the offense as we sit here the day after the SB. Wouldn't mind swapping Powell out with Ka'Deem the Dream or one of those other draft backs in that situation. I think Goodson is interesting and talented, but really don't care if he comes back just because of the position itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 It's still a wait and see for me. The Seahawks just won a super bowl with many guys not drafted in the first few rounds. And yet they were the best team in the NFL this season. It's nice to have stats and a DROY, but at the end of the day, winning teams seem to know how to add depth and players year after year. The Jets have a Defense stacked with a bunch of first rounders. And they aren't all that great of a defense. They are good, but not great. That's one of the many reasons the previous GM got fired. Hard to add quality depth when you're trading away picks year after year. One of the things Idzik seemed to be doing last season was positioning himself purposely to acquire additional comp picks. Purposely targeting cut players rather than free agents, so his free agent losses wouldn't be offset. Pretty clever. That would look to be an indication that he fully understands that the team needs depth, and a lot of it. It'll be interesting to see if he makes any of the big splashes in free agency this year that fans are always rooting for. Decker, Orakpo, etc. I don't expect that. I suspect he'll look to bring in a higher number of lower priced players, rather than one or two big ticket items. But we'll see. Should be fun. So many people post here about something being or not being Idzik's style. Lol. The truth is that we really have no idea what his style is. We can make inferences based on the way the Seahawks were put together, but we don't know. Remember when there was no way a guy like John Idzik wouldn't fire Rex at his earliest opportunity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I started to respect Mr. Idzik the day he decided to keep Rex Ryan. He was highly questionable prior to that moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Meh. I wouldn't worry too much about the "Idzik + Rex Best Friends" campaign, it's just a front to shut the press and fans up about the whole "Rex isn't Idzik's guy" narrative. Did you see them after the Miami game? 50 bucks says they touched each other's wieners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I started to respect Mr. Idzik the day he decided to keep Rex Ryan. He was highly questionable prior to that moment. I keep struggling to decide if his decision to keep Rex or draft Richardson was his best call yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 The only issue I have with Idzik was not bringing Slausen back. We couldn'r sign him for reasonable money? Other than that, I think his player moves have been inexpensive and smart. Solid "B" after his first year in the big chair. Who knows, it's hard to grade an offseason on its own after only one year. The o-line was mishandled. Going all in on Howard for the year was meh and leaving the LG battle to Ducasse vs Winters was not good either. The Goodson and Garrard signings were also complete wastes of time and money. These are all fixable things going into this year, but if they don't get handled then when we look back the 2013 offseason will be the genesis of the pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I keep struggling to decide if his decision to keep Rex or draft Richardson was his best call yet. +1 Either one you pick it was a hell of a way to start and close his rookie year as a GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Who knows, it's hard to grade an offseason on its own after only one year. The o-line was mishandled. Going all in on Howard for the year was meh and leaving the LG battle to Ducasse vs Winters was not good either. The Goodson and Garrard signings were also complete wastes of time and money. These are all fixable things going into this year, but if they don't get handled then when we look back the 2013 offseason will be the genesis of the pattern. Not sure how the Goodson signing was a COMPLETE waste of time. In the limited touches he got we saw basically a perfectly complimentary RB for our RBBC; he looked like a nice 3rd down back to help make up for Ivory's inability to adequately catch passes. His off the field troubles and injury weren't really on Idzik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetknowledge Posted February 3, 2014 Author Share Posted February 3, 2014 All the holes and problems was left by Tannenbaum, idzik came with a plan and he followed through with it. I like what the future holds because of idzik & Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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