Larz Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 the whole offense stinks. WR's not looking for the ball on a blitz, o-line is horrendous, no runnning game the OC needs to wake up to reality, scale everything down, stop the check with me hand signals, and just run quick hitting blitz beaters until the offense gets a clue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 They may have to blow up that roster and coaching staff in the off-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 the whole offense stinks. WR's not looking for the ball on a blitz, o-line is horrendous, no runnning game the OC needs to wake up to reality, scale everything down, stop the check with me hand signals, and just run quick hitting blitz beaters until the offense gets a clue They are in shambles right now. Got to love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 They may have to blow up that roster and coaching staff in the off-season. I think Coughlin's time is passed. These crap starts won;t be tolerated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GandWFan Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Again I hate to throw water on the party but let's keep this thing in reality... Eli or Geno... Tough choice there Not really. Geno every day, and twice on Sundays. Don't want that half-a-retard mongoloid on my team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I think Coughlin's time is passed. These crap starts won;t be tolerated. Giants ownership loves that guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Giants ownership loves that guy Maybe. But if they continue to look this bad, the front office will have to shake things up somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSJets Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I had an interesting conversation with two Giants' fans at work today. One of them was saying that Eli is a great QB, he just has nothing around him. He said he needs better WR's, a better TE, better OLmen and a running game. I basically just looked at him and said "so he basically needs superstars at every position on offense to be good. you can say that about almost any QB." The other thing that always bothers me. Apparently it was Geno's fault on all 21 INT's last year, but Eli isn't to blame for any of the 27 INT's he threw according to some Giants' fans I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Eli has been bad for 2 yrs now. Beckham can't get on the field. Ben McAdoo hasn't proven he's competent. He's never been an OC before and I'm surprised the media hasn't taken him to task yet as I've mentioned elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I had an interesting conversation with two Giants' fans at work today. One of them was saying that Eli is a great QB, he just has nothing around him. He said he needs better WR's, a better TE, better OLmen and a running game. I basically just looked at him and said "so he basically needs superstars at every position on offense to be good. you can say that about almost any QB." The other thing that always bothers me. Apparently it was Geno's fault on all 21 INT's last year, but Eli isn't to blame for any of the 27 INT's he threw according to some Giants' fans I know. Hah hah that is what Mark Sanchez supporters kept saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Is it time for the tri-state area to admit that Geno is better than Eli at this point in time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJetsVets91 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Is it time for the tri-state area to admit that Geno is better than Eli at this point in time? Not yet but check back in a few games. If things keep going the way they are..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 Eli is two things: mistake prone (always) and clutch (used to be). He won those championships because his defense kept him close enough to have that shot late. I think he has lost a lot of that. But he used to have it. Still, circumstances have to be just right for him to win those two. And he did. He is still a sloppy, essentially mediocre QB. Hey, Flacco had a moment, and I think he blows. Yep Eli used to be really good at throwing up prayers in big games .... problem is those prayers have run out., You can't be that freakin lucky all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 They may have to blow up that roster and coaching staff in the off-season. Wouldn't it be glorious to see that happen with the Jets steamrolling to a SB with a beast running game and stifling defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stugotz81 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Whats even more funny, is most Giants fans think Eli is making the Hall of Fame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Whats even more funny, is most Giants fans think Eli is making the Hall of Fame. Sadly he might. 2 rings and the Manning name gets you very far. He'd be the worst player in the HOF if it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stugotz81 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Sadly he might. 2 rings and the Manning name gets you very far. He'd be the worst player in the HOF if it happens. Yes, by far the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Okay, that looks brutal. But it just goes to what has already been established, occasionally inconsistent accuracy. How about some things like yards, touchdowns, wins etc? I mean I'm not saying the guy is Hall Of Fame, but Gawd he's better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Not much better so far this week. Interception on 1 drive + just fumbled on a sack and they got lucky the refs called it back for a BS/phantom call in the secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Not much better so far this week. Interception on 1 drive + just fumbled on a sack and they got lucky the refs called it back for a BS/phantom call in the secondary. He got real bad real fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 These are some terrible calls against the defense for barely touching receivers. I hope this isn't what we should expect in football moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Again I hate to throw water on the party but let's keep this thing in reality... Eli or Geno... Tough choice there Geno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I'm in the minority here but I think Eli has had a very good career and he's way more clutch than his "gaudy-stats" brother. The Eli bashing makes no sense to me. The guy is tough as nails and has ice-water in his veins. Do you think Giants fans would go back on that trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrunder Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Eli is a classic example of how your situation, and players around you can have a huge example on how you perform as a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I'm in the minority here but I think Eli has had a very good career and he's way more clutch than his "gaudy-stats" brother. The Eli bashing makes no sense to me. The guy is tough as nails and has ice-water in his veins. Do you think Giants fans would go back on that trade? lol Philip loudmouth Rivers or Eli superbowl MVP manning tough call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Can anyone on the Giants besides the rookie tight end catch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 The Giants looked good for a 0-2 team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraVerde Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 2 rings. Your argument is invalid. FOREVER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted September 14, 2014 Author Share Posted September 14, 2014 He got real bad real fast. he was bad when he started and almost played himself out of the starting Job on numerous occasions, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraVerde Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Eli has two things wrong with him: And that is the real problem. THese two things have convinced NYers and Giants fans that they are entitled and expected to always be competing for them which isnt the case. Heck maybe even that organization has convinced itself especially with the NY media dumping all its crap on the Jets. Remember what was the conscientious thought going in this season? bet on the Giants to be the team to root for and the Jets to suck. Who is 0-2? People need to chill and let the year play out and let Eli and Coughlin figure it out. Giants always start slow and then go on a run at the end but if they cant protect Eli then forget everything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCJETSFAN Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Few bad yrs follows by 5 good yrs and 2 SB wins where do I sign up for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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